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Posted to dev@geode.apache.org by William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io> on 2015/10/23 18:27:31 UTC

Bump language level to 1.8

Folks,

We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
made the decision to move forward and change the language level.

Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
our Alpha release.

Any thoughts ?
-- 
William Markito Oliveira
Enterprise Architect
-- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
*dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
<de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io>.
Seems reasonable to me.  We’ll bump the source/target compatibility in the build.gradle file.

Anthony


> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> 
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
> 
> Any thoughts ?
> --
> William Markito Oliveira
> Enterprise Architect
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Jacob Barrett <jb...@pivotal.io>.
+1




All for dropping unsupported Java runtimes!

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> Folks,
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
> Any thoughts ?
> -- 
> William Markito Oliveira
> Enterprise Architect
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io>.
I think you meant ‘Does this signal that we’re dropping 1.7 support with geode-1.0’?

:-)

Anthony


> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Dick Cavender <dc...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since this allows 1.8 only features to be used does this signal that we're dropping 1.7 support with 9.0?
> 
> On 10/23/2015 9:42 AM, Jens Deppe wrote:
>> +1!
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
>>> 781.606.0325
>>> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
>>> yet
>>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>>> 
>>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
>>>> our Alpha release.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts ?
>>>> --
>>>> William Markito Oliveira
>>>> Enterprise Architect
>>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>>>> 
> 


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Catherine Johnson <ca...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
+1 - Oracle dropped support for Java 1.7, so anyone left using it would need an extended support contract with Oracle (not cheap) to run 1.7 in any sort of production environment.

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Jianxia Chen <jc...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, this would mean dropping support for 1.7.
>> 
>> +1 from my perspective; I'd love to start using 1.8 features in geode.
>> 
>> -Dan
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Dick Cavender <dc...@pivotal.io>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Since this allows 1.8 only features to be used does this signal that
>> we're
>>> dropping 1.7 support with 9.0?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/23/2015 9:42 AM, Jens Deppe wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1!
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
>>>>> 781.606.0325
>>>>> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wmarkito@pivotal.io
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have
>> not
>>>>>> 
>>>>> yet
>>>>> 
>>>>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
>> before
>>>>>> our Alpha release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any thoughts ?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> William Markito Oliveira
>>>>>> Enterprise Architect
>>>>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>>>>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Jianxia Chen <jc...@pivotal.io>.
+1

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> Yes, this would mean dropping support for 1.7.
>
> +1 from my perspective; I'd love to start using 1.8 features in geode.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Dick Cavender <dc...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Since this allows 1.8 only features to be used does this signal that
> we're
> > dropping 1.7 support with 9.0?
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/2015 9:42 AM, Jens Deppe wrote:
> >
> >> +1!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
> >>> 781.606.0325
> >>> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wmarkito@pivotal.io
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have
> not
> >>>>
> >>> yet
> >>>
> >>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
> before
> >>>> our Alpha release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts ?
> >>>> --
> >>>> William Markito Oliveira
> >>>> Enterprise Architect
> >>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> >>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io>.
Yes, this would mean dropping support for 1.7.

+1 from my perspective; I'd love to start using 1.8 features in geode.

-Dan

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Dick Cavender <dc...@pivotal.io> wrote:

>
> Since this allows 1.8 only features to be used does this signal that we're
> dropping 1.7 support with 9.0?
>
>
> On 10/23/2015 9:42 AM, Jens Deppe wrote:
>
>> +1!
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
>>> 781.606.0325
>>> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
>>>>
>>> yet
>>>
>>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>>>
>>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
>>>> our Alpha release.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts ?
>>>> --
>>>> William Markito Oliveira
>>>> Enterprise Architect
>>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>>>>
>>>>
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Dick Cavender <dc...@pivotal.io>.
Since this allows 1.8 only features to be used does this signal that 
we're dropping 1.7 support with 9.0?

On 10/23/2015 9:42 AM, Jens Deppe wrote:
> +1!
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
>> 781.606.0325
>> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
>> yet
>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>>
>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
>>> our Alpha release.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts ?
>>> --
>>> William Markito Oliveira
>>> Enterprise Architect
>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>>>


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Jens Deppe <jd...@pivotal.io>.
+1!

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> +1
>
>
> *Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
> 781.606.0325
> http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
> yet
> > made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> >
> > Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> > our Alpha release.
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
> > --
> > William Markito Oliveira
> > Enterprise Architect
> > -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> > *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> > <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Wes Williams <ww...@pivotal.io>.
+1


*Wes Williams | Pivotal Sr. **Data Engineer*
781.606.0325
http://pivotal.io/big-data/pivotal-gemfire

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> Folks,
>
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
>
> Any thoughts ?
> --
> William Markito Oliveira
> Enterprise Architect
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io>.
I like the idea.
+1

--
Mike Stolz
GemFire Principal Product Manager
Mobile: 631-835-4771
On Oct 23, 2015 11:27 AM, "William Markito" <wm...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
>
> Any thoughts ?
> --
> William Markito Oliveira
> Enterprise Architect
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by John Blum <jb...@pivotal.io>.
+1

However, just a reminder, most environments (e.g. Java EE application
servers: WebSphere, WebLogic, etc) where GemFire/Geode will most likely be
used (in the enterprise) are still largely based on a 1.6 runtime,
especially older versions that are still predominantly in production.

In addition, Oracle has pushed out the release date of Java EE 8
<https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/java_ee_8_roadmap_update> [0].

It is also worth mentioning that "*end of public updates*" (Java 7 - April
2015) does not mean "*end of life*" (Java 7 - July 2022). Even 1.6 will
have extended support until December 2018!  See Oracle commercial offerings
doc
<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html#java-commercial-offerings>
[1] for
further details.

It is more likely that companies will purchase "extended support" than it
is for them to completely supplant their existing infrastructure.  The
migration process is long and cumbersome for most enterprise customers,
especially banks, etc.

So, for Geode, this effectively means we could limit our audience out of
the gate.

[0] - https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/entry/java_ee_8_roadmap_update
[1] - *http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html#java-commercial-offerings
<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html#java-commercial-offerings>*


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Bruce Schuchardt <bs...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> +1
>
> Let's move to Java 8!
>
>
> Le 10/23/2015 9:27 AM, William Markito a écrit :
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
>> yet
>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>
>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
>> our Alpha release.
>>
>> Any thoughts ?
>>
>
>


-- 
-John
503-504-8657
john.blum10101 (skype)

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Bruce Schuchardt <bs...@pivotal.io>.
+1

Let's move to Java 8!

Le 10/23/2015 9:27 AM, William Markito a écrit :
> Folks,
>
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
>
> Any thoughts ?


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>.
Just saw it and fixed.

Let's see the next build.

Thanks!

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> Looks like the apache jenkins server is currently running java 1.7. Can
> someone with access to it fix this?
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/Geode-nightly/258/console
>
> * What went wrong:
> Execution failed for task ':gemfire-junit:compileTestJava'.
> > invalid source release: 1.8
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys!
> >
> > I'm moving ahead and merge PR 23.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have
> not
> > > yet
> > > > made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> > > >
> > > > Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
> > before
> > > > our Alpha release.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts ?
> > > > --
> > > > William Markito Oliveira
> > > > Enterprise Architect
> > > > -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> > > > *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> > > > <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > William Markito Oliveira
> > -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> > *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> > <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >
>



-- 

William Markito Oliveira
-- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
*dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
<de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>.
Yes, but just because the base image we created for Docker is already JDK 8
based.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> If we the jenkins build in a docker container that would fix this issue
> right?  GEODE-60?
>
> Anthony
>
> > On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like the apache jenkins server is currently running java 1.7. Can
> > someone with access to it fix this?
> >
> > https://builds.apache.org/job/Geode-nightly/258/console
> >
> > * What went wrong:
> > Execution failed for task ':gemfire-junit:compileTestJava'.
> >> invalid source release: 1.8
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks guys!
> >>
> >> I'm moving ahead and merge PR 23.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have
> not
> >>> yet
> >>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
> >> before
> >>>> our Alpha release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts ?
> >>>> --
> >>>> William Markito Oliveira
> >>>> Enterprise Architect
> >>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> >>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> William Markito Oliveira
> >> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> >> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> >> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >>
>
>


-- 

William Markito Oliveira
-- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
*dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
<de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Anthony Baker <ab...@pivotal.io>.
If we the jenkins build in a docker container that would fix this issue right?  GEODE-60?

Anthony

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Looks like the apache jenkins server is currently running java 1.7. Can
> someone with access to it fix this?
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/job/Geode-nightly/258/console
> 
> * What went wrong:
> Execution failed for task ':gemfire-junit:compileTestJava'.
>> invalid source release: 1.8
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks guys!
>> 
>> I'm moving ahead and merge PR 23.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
>>> yet
>>>> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>>>> 
>>>> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
>> before
>>>> our Alpha release.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts ?
>>>> --
>>>> William Markito Oliveira
>>>> Enterprise Architect
>>>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>>>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>>>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> William Markito Oliveira
>> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
>> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
>> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>> 


Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io>.
Looks like the apache jenkins server is currently running java 1.7. Can
someone with access to it fix this?

https://builds.apache.org/job/Geode-nightly/258/console

* What went wrong:
Execution failed for task ':gemfire-junit:compileTestJava'.
> invalid source release: 1.8



On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> Thanks guys!
>
> I'm moving ahead and merge PR 23.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
> > yet
> > > made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> > >
> > > Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change
> before
> > > our Alpha release.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts ?
> > > --
> > > William Markito Oliveira
> > > Enterprise Architect
> > > -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> > > *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> > > <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> William Markito Oliveira
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks guys!

I'm moving ahead and merge PR 23.


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not
> yet
> > made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
> >
> > Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> > our Alpha release.
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
> > --
> > William Markito Oliveira
> > Enterprise Architect
> > -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> > *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> > <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
> >
>



-- 

William Markito Oliveira
-- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
*dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
<de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*

Re: Bump language level to 1.8

Posted by Kirk Lund <kl...@pivotal.io>.
+1

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:27 AM, William Markito <wm...@pivotal.io>
wrote:

> Folks,
>
> We had some discussions around this in the past but I guess we have not yet
> made the decision to move forward and change the language level.
>
> Just opened GEODE-479 and would like to propose to do this change before
> our Alpha release.
>
> Any thoughts ?
> --
> William Markito Oliveira
> Enterprise Architect
> -- For questions about Apache Geode, please write to
> *dev@geode.incubator.apache.org
> <de...@geode.incubator.apache.org>*
>