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Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by Mark <ja...@gmail.com> on 2015/01/28 17:56:38 UTC
extract and add fields on the fly
Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract & indexing)
and specify some fields on the fly?
sort of:
1) index this document
2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
Regards
Mark
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Alexandre,
I figured it out with this example,
https://wiki.apache.org/solr/ExtractingRequestHandler
whereby you can add additional fields at upload/extract time
curl "
http://localhost:8983/solr/update/extract?literal.id=doc4&captureAttr=true&defaultField=text&capture=div&fmap.div=foo_txt&boost.foo_txt=3&literal.blah_s=Bah"
-F "tutorial=@"help.pdf
and therefore I learned that you can't update a field that isn't in the
original which is what I was trying to do before.
Regards
Mark
On 28 January 2015 at 18:38, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Well, the schema does need to know what type your field is. If you
> can't add it to schema, use dynamicFields with prefixe/suffixes or
> dynamic schema (less recommended).
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> ----
> Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 13:32, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That approach works although as suspected the schma has to recognise the
> > additinal facet (stuff in this case):
> >
> > "responseHeader":{"status":400,"QTime":1},"error":{"msg":"ERROR:
> > [doc=000000006252671B765A1748992DF1A6403BDF81A4A15E00] unknown field
> > 'stuff'","code":400}}
> >
> > ..getting closer..
> >
> > On 28 January 2015 at 18:03, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Use case is
> >>
> >> use curl to upload/extract/index document passing in additional facets
> not
> >> present in the document e.g. literal.source="old system"
> >>
> >> In this way some fields come from the uploaded extracted content and
> some
> >> fields as specified in the curl URL
> >>
> >> Hope that's clearer?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 January 2015 at 17:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sounds like 'literal.X' syntax from
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Uploading+Data+with+Solr+Cell+using+Apache+Tika
> >>>
> >>> Can you explain your use case as different from what's already
> >>> documented? May be easier to understand.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Alex.
> >>> ----
> >>> Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28 January 2015 at 12:45, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I'm looking to
> >>> >
> >>> > 1) upload a binary document using curl
> >>> > 2) add some additional facets
> >>> >
> >>> > Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation
> or
> >>> > does it need 2?
> >>> >
> >>> > On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think a better approach would be
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> >>> >> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document
> already
> >>> >>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> >>> >>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
> >>> >>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as
> >>> well
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then*
> >>> index to
> >>> >>>> solr.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are
> >>> pushed
> >>> >>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional
> >>> fields,
> >>> >>>> then add to solr.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
> >>> >>>> indexing)
> >>> >>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > sort of:
> >>> >>>> > 1) index this document
> >>> >>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Regards
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Mark
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
Well, the schema does need to know what type your field is. If you
can't add it to schema, use dynamicFields with prefixe/suffixes or
dynamic schema (less recommended).
Regards,
Alex.
----
Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
On 28 January 2015 at 13:32, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That approach works although as suspected the schma has to recognise the
> additinal facet (stuff in this case):
>
> "responseHeader":{"status":400,"QTime":1},"error":{"msg":"ERROR:
> [doc=000000006252671B765A1748992DF1A6403BDF81A4A15E00] unknown field
> 'stuff'","code":400}}
>
> ..getting closer..
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 18:03, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Use case is
>>
>> use curl to upload/extract/index document passing in additional facets not
>> present in the document e.g. literal.source="old system"
>>
>> In this way some fields come from the uploaded extracted content and some
>> fields as specified in the curl URL
>>
>> Hope that's clearer?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like 'literal.X' syntax from
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Uploading+Data+with+Solr+Cell+using+Apache+Tika
>>>
>>> Can you explain your use case as different from what's already
>>> documented? May be easier to understand.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex.
>>> ----
>>> Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 January 2015 at 12:45, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I'm looking to
>>> >
>>> > 1) upload a binary document using curl
>>> > 2) add some additional facets
>>> >
>>> > Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation or
>>> > does it need 2?
>>> >
>>> > On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
>>> >>
>>> >> I think a better approach would be
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>>> >> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
>>> >>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>>> >>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
>>> >>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as
>>> well
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then*
>>> index to
>>> >>>> solr.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are
>>> pushed
>>> >>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional
>>> fields,
>>> >>>> then add to solr.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
>>> >>>> indexing)
>>> >>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > sort of:
>>> >>>> > 1) index this document
>>> >>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Regards
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Mark
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
That approach works although as suspected the schma has to recognise the
additinal facet (stuff in this case):
"responseHeader":{"status":400,"QTime":1},"error":{"msg":"ERROR:
[doc=000000006252671B765A1748992DF1A6403BDF81A4A15E00] unknown field
'stuff'","code":400}}
..getting closer..
On 28 January 2015 at 18:03, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Use case is
>
> use curl to upload/extract/index document passing in additional facets not
> present in the document e.g. literal.source="old system"
>
> In this way some fields come from the uploaded extracted content and some
> fields as specified in the curl URL
>
> Hope that's clearer?
>
> Regards
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 17:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like 'literal.X' syntax from
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Uploading+Data+with+Solr+Cell+using+Apache+Tika
>>
>> Can you explain your use case as different from what's already
>> documented? May be easier to understand.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex.
>> ----
>> Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
>>
>>
>> On 28 January 2015 at 12:45, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm looking to
>> >
>> > 1) upload a binary document using curl
>> > 2) add some additional facets
>> >
>> > Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation or
>> > does it need 2?
>> >
>> > On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
>> >>
>> >> I think a better approach would be
>> >>
>> >> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>> >> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
>> >>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>> >>>
>> >>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>> >>>
>> >>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>> >>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
>> >>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>> >>>
>> >>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as
>> well
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then*
>> index to
>> >>>> solr.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are
>> pushed
>> >>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional
>> fields,
>> >>>> then add to solr.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
>> >>>> indexing)
>> >>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > sort of:
>> >>>> > 1) index this document
>> >>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Mark
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
Use case is
use curl to upload/extract/index document passing in additional facets not
present in the document e.g. literal.source="old system"
In this way some fields come from the uploaded extracted content and some
fields as specified in the curl URL
Hope that's clearer?
Regards
Mark
On 28 January 2015 at 17:54, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sounds like 'literal.X' syntax from
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Uploading+Data+with+Solr+Cell+using+Apache+Tika
>
> Can you explain your use case as different from what's already
> documented? May be easier to understand.
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> ----
> Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 12:45, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking to
> >
> > 1) upload a binary document using curl
> > 2) add some additional facets
> >
> > Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation or
> > does it need 2?
> >
> > On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
> >>
> >> I think a better approach would be
> >>
> >> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> >> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
> >>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
> >>>
> >>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
> >>>
> >>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> >>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
> >>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
> >>>
> >>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then*
> index to
> >>>> solr.
> >>>>
> >>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are
> pushed
> >>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional
> fields,
> >>>> then add to solr.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
> >>>> indexing)
> >>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > sort of:
> >>>> > 1) index this document
> >>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Regards
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Mark
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
Sounds like 'literal.X' syntax from
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Uploading+Data+with+Solr+Cell+using+Apache+Tika
Can you explain your use case as different from what's already
documented? May be easier to understand.
Regards,
Alex.
----
Sign up for my Solr resources newsletter at http://www.solr-start.com/
On 28 January 2015 at 12:45, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to
>
> 1) upload a binary document using curl
> 2) add some additional facets
>
> Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation or
> does it need 2?
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
>>
>> I think a better approach would be
>>
>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
>>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>>>
>>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>>>
>>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
>>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>>>
>>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
>>>> solr.
>>>>
>>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
>>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
>>>> then add to solr.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
>>>> indexing)
>>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
>>>> >
>>>> > sort of:
>>>> > 1) index this document
>>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Mark
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
I'm looking to
1) upload a binary document using curl
2) add some additional facets
Specifically my question is can this be achieved in 1 curl operation or
does it need 2?
On 28 January 2015 at 17:43, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
>
> I think a better approach would be
>
> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> 2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
>
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
>> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>>
>> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>>
>> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
>> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
>> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>>
>> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
>>
>>
>> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
>>> solr.
>>>
>>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
>>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
>>> then add to solr.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
>>> indexing)
>>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
>>> >
>>> > sort of:
>>> > 1) index this document
>>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
Second thoughts SID is purely i/p as its name suggests :)
I think a better approach would be
1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
2) curl to update additional fields for that docID
On 28 January 2015 at 17:30, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>
> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>
> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>
> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
>> solr.
>>
>> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
>> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
>> then add to solr.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract & indexing)
>> > and specify some fields on the fly?
>> >
>> > sort of:
>> > 1) index this document
>> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, I may have misunderstood:
Are you talking about adding additional fields at indexing time? (Here I
would add the fields first *then* send to solr.)
Are you talking about updating a field withing an existing document in a
solr index? (In that case I would direct you here [1].)
Am I still misunderstanding?
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Updating+Parts+of+Documents
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
> exists that you wish to add fields to.
>
> However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
>
> 1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
> 2) obtain a SID based off docID
> 3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
>
> I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
>
>
> On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
> > solr.
> >
> > We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
> > to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
> > then add to solr.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract &
> indexing)
> > > and specify some fields on the fly?
> > >
> > > sort of:
> > > 1) index this document
> > > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> >
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Mark <ja...@gmail.com>.
"Create the SID from the existing doc" implies that a document already
exists that you wish to add fields to.
However if the document is a binary are you suggesting
1) curl to upload/extract passing docID
2) obtain a SID based off docID
3) add addtinal fields to SID & commit
I know I'm possibly wandering into the schemaless teritory here as well
On 28 January 2015 at 17:11, Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
> solr.
>
> We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
> to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
> then add to solr.
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract & indexing)
> > and specify some fields on the fly?
> >
> > sort of:
> > 1) index this document
> > 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
Re: extract and add fields on the fly
Posted by Andrew Pawloski <ap...@gmail.com>.
I would switch the order of those. Add the new fields and *then* index to
solr.
We do something similar when we create SolrInputDocuments that are pushed
to solr. Create the SID from the existing doc, add any additional fields,
then add to solr.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mark <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to use curl to upload a document (for extract & indexing)
> and specify some fields on the fly?
>
> sort of:
> 1) index this document
> 2) by the way here are some important facets whilst your at it
>
> Regards
>
> Mark
>