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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com> on 2013/11/22 04:40:34 UTC

Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

I see on the cwiki site for ofbiz that 12.04.02 is the latest stable
release, but I also see a 13.07 release available for checkout from
svn.  Is 13.07 an experimental release that will eventually replace
the 12.04 releases, or something else, or is the ofbiz documentation
site just out of date?  So, this begs the question as to which release
to use.

I am looking to deploy ofbiz on a real server, instead of playing with
it on a virtual machine, and use it for training of a couple people in
a startup enterprise, and for preliminary marketing/market research
purposes, and do not want to spend time experimenting with an unstable
release.

Thanks

Ted

Re: Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Hi Ted,

13.07 is the most recent release branch: it is used to stabilize the codebase and from it we will create new releases (the first one will be 13.07.01, then 13.07.02 etc...).

Jacopo

On Nov 22, 2013, at 4:40 AM, Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see on the cwiki site for ofbiz that 12.04.02 is the latest stable
> release, but I also see a 13.07 release available for checkout from
> svn.  Is 13.07 an experimental release that will eventually replace
> the 12.04 releases, or something else, or is the ofbiz documentation
> site just out of date?  So, this begs the question as to which release
> to use.
> 
> I am looking to deploy ofbiz on a real server, instead of playing with
> it on a virtual machine, and use it for training of a couple people in
> a startup enterprise, and for preliminary marketing/market research
> purposes, and do not want to spend time experimenting with an unstable
> release.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ted


Re: Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
If you want my opinion I'd also go with the last freezed branch.
Since we closely follow issues, you don't take much risks with it.
But you should know that it's not yet as stable as the lastest stable...

Jacques

On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:42 PM adrian.crum@sandglass-software.com <ad...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:
> "suitable for production" is a subjective term and everyone will have
> a different interpretation of it.
> 
> I would recommend using the 13.07 branch - mainly because support for
> previous versions will wane. Why start off with a version that is
> already two years old?
> 
> Another reason to go with the 13.07 branch is the improvements over
> 12.04 - especially thread-safety and performance.
> 
> -Adrian
> 
> Quoting Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com>:
> 
>> Thanks Jacques and Jacopo,
>> 
>> The reason I thought that maybe the documentation mght be out of date
>> is that http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html makes no mention of
>> R13.07.
>> 
>> But, if I understand you and Jacopo, R13.07 is something like a
>> release candidate, suitable for beta testing and in a development
>> house, so developers can be confident that their new products
>> (custmized components that extend OFBiz) will work on the next
>> release, as well as on the current release.  And for production,
>> R12.04 is the latest release suitable for production.  Is that right?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ted

Re: Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

Posted by ad...@sandglass-software.com.
"suitable for production" is a subjective term and everyone will have  
a different interpretation of it.

I would recommend using the 13.07 branch - mainly because support for  
previous versions will wane. Why start off with a version that is  
already two years old?

Another reason to go with the 13.07 branch is the improvements over  
12.04 - especially thread-safety and performance.

-Adrian

Quoting Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com>:

> Thanks Jacques and Jacopo,
>
> The reason I thought that maybe the documentation mght be out of date
> is that http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html makes no mention of
> R13.07.
>
> But, if I understand you and Jacopo, R13.07 is something like a
> release candidate, suitable for beta testing and in a development
> house, so developers can be confident that their new products
> (custmized components that extend OFBiz) will work on the next
> release, as well as on the current release.  And for production,
> R12.04 is the latest release suitable for production.  Is that right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>




Re: Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

Posted by Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com>.
Thanks Jacques and Jacopo,

The reason I thought that maybe the documentation mght be out of date
is that http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html makes no mention of
R13.07.

But, if I understand you and Jacopo, R13.07 is something like a
release candidate, suitable for beta testing and in a development
house, so developers can be confident that their new products
(custmized components that extend OFBiz) will work on the next
release, as well as on the current release.  And for production,
R12.04 is the latest release suitable for production.  Is that right?

Thanks

Ted

Re: Which release: 13.07 or 12.04

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
>From time to time, so far each year, we freeze the trunk in release branches, then only bug fixes are committed to releases branches.
As explained here http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html, the release number reflect the time a release branch was freezed
So R13.07 is not experimental, but the next branch to release, and *NO* the documentation is not out of date. 
This is a major requirement of the Apache way (ASF). Not the way we (Apache OFBiz) release, but the fact that you should release, if possible often.

Regarding what to use it depends on what you are looking for: http://ofbiz.apache.org/apache-ofbiz-getting-started.html

It seems you are looking for R12.04: last stable

Jacques

On Friday, November 22, 2013 4:40 AM Ted Byers <r....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see on the cwiki site for ofbiz that 12.04.02 is the latest stable
> release, but I also see a 13.07 release available for checkout from
> svn.  Is 13.07 an experimental release that will eventually replace
> the 12.04 releases, or something else, or is the ofbiz documentation
> site just out of date?  So, this begs the question as to which release
> to use.
> 
> I am looking to deploy ofbiz on a real server, instead of playing with
> it on a virtual machine, and use it for training of a couple people in
> a startup enterprise, and for preliminary marketing/market research
> purposes, and do not want to spend time experimenting with an unstable
> release.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ted