Re: Apache HAWQ 2.3.0.0 release plan

[Shivram Mani <sh...@gmail.com>]

Yi, for the pluggable storage framework to be merged to master we need to
have a more detailed proposal talking about design/implementation etc. It
has been more than a year since the first ORC related draft was first
published for the pluggable framework. August timeline seems very unlikely.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thank Lili and Radar for your comment.
>
> Following Vineet's comment, I have changed timeline to have branch cut
> scheduled at 1st Sept.
>
> And TDE will be involved in this release per your requests. Please Radar
> help plan TDE delivery in Aug.
>
> Currently, pluggable external storage supporting framework per my
> understanding is under construction at a wrap-up phase, it will be smoothly
> delivered into repo in Aug as well when it has enough test cases verified.
>
> Best,
> Yi
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Yi.
> >
> > Cut release branch at early/middle September looks fine.
> >
> > I would suggest we can add TDE support in the release plan too.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Radar
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Yi,
> > >
> > > What's the status of pluggable external storage?
> > >
> > > Also, I wonder whether we can add TDE in next release.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Lili
> > >
> > > 2017-07-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Vineet Goel <vv...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Sounds good to me, Yi.
> > > > If there are any other suggestions from other members, those are
> > welcome
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 6:14 PM Yi JIN <ji...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Vineet,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your comment, I will add timeline on release page as
> > part
> > > > of
> > > > > the plan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically, I expect by 30th Oct., we can have tar balls available
> for
> > > > > downloading, and before that I reserve about 1.5 month for voting
> > > > progress
> > > > > according to previous experiences. So basically, I think we can cut
> > > > branch
> > > > > for new release at mid Sept. So that means we have no more than 2
> > > months
> > > > > for fixing and new feature delivery. As delivering pluggable
> external
> > > > > storage requires some time. If necessary, I think it is ok to move
> > > target
> > > > > date 2 weeks earlier. Does this rough time schedule make sense?
> > What's
> > > > your
> > > > > opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > I will add Umbrella JIRAS on that page as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Yi Jin (yjin)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Vineet Goel <vv...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Yi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for the initiative. I have some feedback that we can
> > > discuss
> > > > > here
> > > > > > and collect further input on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) Putting a timeline on releases (such as October 31st here) may
> > > have
> > > > > some
> > > > > > downsides to the process. My thoughts are that more frequent
> > releases
> > > > > give
> > > > > > users access to features and fixes faster, from a stable branch.
> > > > Release
> > > > > > momentum is good to have in any project. For instance, master
> > branch
> > > is
> > > > > > already 75+ commits ahead of 2.2.0.0-incubating, since that
> branch
> > > was
> > > > > cut
> > > > > > a a couple of months back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > b) Also, it may help to add Umbrella JIRAs on that page,
> associated
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > new features. If certain features are too large to finish in a
> > given
> > > > > > release, they can always ride the next release vehicle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be good to hear thoughts from others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Vineet
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Apache HAWQ community,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you guys for your trust, I drafted one release plan for
> > next
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > 2.3.0.0 that has been update in wiki as below. Please feel free
> > to
> > > > > > comment
> > > > > > > and any input is welcome. Thank you again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/
> > > > Apache+HAWQ+2.3.0.0-
> > > > > > incubating+Release
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Yi Jin (yjin)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
shivram mani

Re: Apache HAWQ 2.3.0.0 release plan

[Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>]

Hi Shivram,

This framework is not ORC oriented, it does not care any specific file
system or format in fact per my understanding.

And yes, I have required that its design proposal should be available in
community for comment before delivery.

Best,
Yi

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:53 AM, Shivram Mani <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yi, for the pluggable storage framework to be merged to master we need to
> have a more detailed proposal talking about design/implementation etc. It
> has been more than a year since the first ORC related draft was first
> published for the pluggable framework. August timeline seems very unlikely.
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank Lili and Radar for your comment.
> >
> > Following Vineet's comment, I have changed timeline to have branch cut
> > scheduled at 1st Sept.
> >
> > And TDE will be involved in this release per your requests. Please Radar
> > help plan TDE delivery in Aug.
> >
> > Currently, pluggable external storage supporting framework per my
> > understanding is under construction at a wrap-up phase, it will be
> smoothly
> > delivered into repo in Aug as well when it has enough test cases
> verified.
> >
> > Best,
> > Yi
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Radar Lei <rl...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Yi.
> > >
> > > Cut release branch at early/middle September looks fine.
> > >
> > > I would suggest we can add TDE support in the release plan too.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Radar
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Lili Ma <li...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Yi,
> > > >
> > > > What's the status of pluggable external storage?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I wonder whether we can add TDE in next release.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Lili
> > > >
> > > > 2017-07-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Vineet Goel <vv...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > Sounds good to me, Yi.
> > > > > If there are any other suggestions from other members, those are
> > > welcome
> > > > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 6:14 PM Yi JIN <ji...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Vineet,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your comment, I will add timeline on release page
> as
> > > part
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the plan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically, I expect by 30th Oct., we can have tar balls available
> > for
> > > > > > downloading, and before that I reserve about 1.5 month for voting
> > > > > progress
> > > > > > according to previous experiences. So basically, I think we can
> cut
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > for new release at mid Sept. So that means we have no more than 2
> > > > months
> > > > > > for fixing and new feature delivery. As delivering pluggable
> > external
> > > > > > storage requires some time. If necessary, I think it is ok to
> move
> > > > target
> > > > > > date 2 weeks earlier. Does this rough time schedule make sense?
> > > What's
> > > > > your
> > > > > > opinion?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will add Umbrella JIRAS on that page as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Yi Jin (yjin)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Vineet Goel <vvineet@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Yi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for the initiative. I have some feedback that we can
> > > > discuss
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > > and collect further input on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a) Putting a timeline on releases (such as October 31st here)
> may
> > > > have
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > downsides to the process. My thoughts are that more frequent
> > > releases
> > > > > > give
> > > > > > > users access to features and fixes faster, from a stable
> branch.
> > > > > Release
> > > > > > > momentum is good to have in any project. For instance, master
> > > branch
> > > > is
> > > > > > > already 75+ commits ahead of 2.2.0.0-incubating, since that
> > branch
> > > > was
> > > > > > cut
> > > > > > > a a couple of months back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > b) Also, it may help to add Umbrella JIRAs on that page,
> > associated
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > new features. If certain features are too large to finish in a
> > > given
> > > > > > > release, they can always ride the next release vehicle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It would be good to hear thoughts from others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > Vineet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:15 PM Yi JIN <yj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Apache HAWQ community,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you guys for your trust, I drafted one release plan for
> > > next
> > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > 2.3.0.0 that has been update in wiki as below. Please feel
> free
> > > to
> > > > > > > comment
> > > > > > > > and any input is welcome. Thank you again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HAWQ/
> > > > > Apache+HAWQ+2.3.0.0-
> > > > > > > incubating+Release
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Yi Jin (yjin)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> shivram mani
>