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[VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
[Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
Hi devs,
Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
Here is my +1.
FYI:
You also should look at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleasePlan. That
means, as of item 1 of the release plan, we will announce the freeze on
December 8 and start freezing/testing on December 15th, if we agree on
the general schedule. Estimated release date is 22.12.2004.
Sorry for the hurry :)
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Re: Discussing a general release schedule was [Re: [VOTE] Agree on
general release schedule/activities]
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
>> testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.
>
>
> Why not a t least 3 days? IMHO, this ensures a minimum level of quality.
because I believe that it should be sufficient to have an appropriate
checklist and that the stable branch is being continuously tested anyway
during "maintenance development"
>
>
> The interesting thing is Michi, you had enough time the last days to
> discuss it, and I send lots of reminders. Fortunately I'm a patient
> person, as long as people do not waste my time due to ignorance.
that's certainly not the case, but rather certain family issues at
nights and on the weekend ;-)
> Also I do not like discussions in voting threads.
me neither, but I wanted to explain why I voted 0. I am glad you
started a new thread
>
> That is my opinion too. I will fix that, but Gregor has another opinion.
so, I guess we should discuss it once more or at least for next time.
> I will overwork the schedule re your issues, thanks for the comments.
thanks as well
Michi
>
>
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Discussing a general release schedule was [Re: [VOTE] Agree on general
release schedule/activities]
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
>
>> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
>> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to
>> use it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not
>> change the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>>
>> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>>
>> Here is my +1.
>
>
>
> 0
>
> I think it's important that we finally get this release done, that's why
> I vote 0, otherwise I would vote -1, because I really don't understand
> why testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.
Why not a t least 3 days? IMHO, this ensures a minimum level of quality.
The interesting thing is Michi, you had enough time the last days to
discuss it, and I send lots of reminders. Fortunately I'm a patient
person, as long as people do not waste my time due to ignorance. Also I
do not like discussions in voting threads.
>
> Some notes on the Release Schedule
> http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo
> (I don't change there anything, otherwise people might be a bit confused
> in the end)
>
> 1) it's not clear to me when the actual freeze will start. 7 days after
> its announcement?
You should say that in the announcement.
>
> 2) Item (3): During freeze nothing should be checked in, except
> otherwise requested
That is my opinion too. I will fix that, but Gregor has another opinion.
>
> 3) Item (5): I guess there it should say 4 instead of 7, right?
I will overwork the schedule re your issues, thanks for the comments.
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
+1
(I would favour a testing period of at least one week. The reason is simple: I
think that it significantly increases the chance that every developer/user can
and will appropriately do the testing.)
Andreas
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From: "Michael Wechner" <mi...@wyona.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
>
> > [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
> >
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> > release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to
> > use it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not
> > change the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
> >
> > You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
> >
> > Here is my +1.
>
>
> 0
>
> I think it's important that we finally get this release done, that's why
> I vote 0, otherwise I would vote -1, because I really don't understand
> why testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.
>
> Some notes on the Release Schedule http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo
> (I don't change there anything, otherwise people might be a bit confused
> in the end)
>
> 1) it's not clear to me when the actual freeze will start. 7 days after
> its announcement?
>
> 2) Item (3): During freeze nothing should be checked in, except
> otherwise requested
>
> 3) Item (5): I guess there it should say 4 instead of 7, right?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Michi
>
> >
> >
> > FYI:
> > You also should look at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleasePlan. That
> > means, as of item 1 of the release plan, we will announce the freeze
> > on December 8 and start freezing/testing on December 15th, if we agree
> > on the general schedule. Estimated release date is 22.12.2004.
> >
> > Sorry for the hurry :)
> >
>
>
> --
> Michael Wechner
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://www.wyona.com http://lenya.apache.org
> michael.wechner@wyona.com michi@apache.org
>
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to
> use it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not
> change the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> Here is my +1.
0
I think it's important that we finally get this release done, that's why
I vote 0, otherwise I would vote -1, because I really don't understand
why testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.
Some notes on the Release Schedule http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo
(I don't change there anything, otherwise people might be a bit confused
in the end)
1) it's not clear to me when the actual freeze will start. 7 days after
its announcement?
2) Item (3): During freeze nothing should be checked in, except
otherwise requested
3) Item (5): I guess there it should say 4 instead of 7, right?
Thanks
Michi
>
>
> FYI:
> You also should look at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleasePlan. That
> means, as of item 1 of the release plan, we will announce the freeze
> on December 8 and start freezing/testing on December 15th, if we agree
> on the general schedule. Estimated release date is 22.12.2004.
>
> Sorry for the hurry :)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann escribió:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> Here is my +1.
>
+1
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> Here is my +1.
thank you for doing this rolf. here is my
+1
> FYI:
> You also should look at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleasePlan. That
> means, as of item 1 of the release plan, we will announce the freeze on
> December 8 and start freezing/testing on December 15th, if we agree on
> the general schedule. Estimated release date is 22.12.2004.
thanks for that, too. if we agree to it, it should go to a more
prominent location. how about restructuring
http://lenya.apache.org/roadmap.html
to add this information? would have the added benefit to bring that one
up to date.
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
+1
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
On Lun, 6 de Diciembre de 2004, 2:31, Rolf Kulemann dijo:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> Here is my +1.
>
>
> FYI:
> You also should look at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleasePlan. That
> means, as of item 1 of the release plan, we will announce the freeze on
> December 8 and start freezing/testing on December 15th, if we agree on
> the general schedule. Estimated release date is 22.12.2004.
>
> Sorry for the hurry :)
>
> --
> Rolf Kulemann
>
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Christian Egli <ch...@wyona.net>.
Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org> writes:
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to
> use it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not
> change the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
Looks good
+1
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Dale Christ <gr...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:11:32 +0100, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> > [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
> >
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> > release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> > it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> > the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
> >
> > You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> +1
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
+1
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Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by "J. Wolfgang Kaltz" <ka...@interactivesystems.info>.
+1
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for
> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to use
> it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not change
> the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>
> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>
> Here is my +1.
>
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[SUMMARY] [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 09:31, Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
We have 8 positive votes. We agreed on the general rel. schedule and
activities and we will do all future releases along that agreement.
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