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Posted to dev@ranger.apache.org by larry mccay <lm...@apache.org> on 2016/11/22 15:55:25 UTC
[MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Hello Mentors -
The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for Apache
Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready for
this discussion to begin.
Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and how to
drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to go
through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that can
be provided would be greatly appreciated.
thanks!
--larry
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com>.
Hello Mentors,
Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. One
thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger².
Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
Thanks,
Ramesh
Project Graduation email content:
Project Status:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
Project website:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
Project Documentation:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
Project maturity Assessment:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+M
aturity+Model
DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
Proposed PMC size: 15
Total number of committers: 40 members
PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
Ebay (1)
* Hortonworks (10)
Privacera (2)
BlueTalon (1)
Others (1)
1802 commits on develop
8 PR¹s on GitHub
22 contributors across all branches
Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
1208 issues created
997 issues resolved
Committer¹s affiliation:
Active:
Hortonworks
Talend
BlueTalon
eBay
Resolution:
Establish the Apache Ranger Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to establish a
Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
architectures.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects
within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be it
further
RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
Don Bosco Durai
bosco@apache.org
Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
Larry Mccay
lmccay@apache.org
Madhanmohan Neethiraj
madhan@apache.org
Ramesh Mani
rmani@hortonworks.com
Sanjay Radia
sanjay@hortonworks.com
Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that ³XXXXXX" be appointed to the
office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
increased participation in the
Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
discharged.
On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hello Mentors -
>
>The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>Apache
>Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready for
>this discussion to begin.
>
>Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and how
>to
>drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>
>I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to go
>through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that can
>be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks!
>
>--larry
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
Never mind on the last part about keeping mentors. I see you sent a separate email on that. Thanks.
Alan.
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 14:57, Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So you took those on the PPMC and put them on the PMC, and those who were committers remain committers. The other option many podlings take is to put everyone who’s part of the podling onto the PMC. Either is fine, but the podling should discuss it and agree. I haven’t seen any discussion so far beyond this thread, but perhaps I’ve missed it.
>
> Also, did you have any feedback on the recommendation that you keep at least one of the mentors on the PMC? Again, I think this should be discussed in the podling.
>
> Alan.
>
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:49, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this
>> is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which
>> is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the
>> number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook?
>>
>> Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project
>> summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need
>> input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done.
>>
>> Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a
>> separate email and address this.
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed input.
>>
>> Ramesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for getting this process started.
>>>
>>> Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at.
>>>
>>> I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve
>>> made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable
>>> diversity in the committers.
>>>
>>> One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the
>>> Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18
>>> members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was
>>> that decided? In a related question there appear to be community
>>> members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that
>>> distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from
>>> Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below?
>>>
>>> Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the
>>> mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give
>>> guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a
>>> deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying
>>> you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see
>>> which of them would be willing to stay on.
>>>
>>> As to the process of graduation, see
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>>>
>>> Next steps:
>>> 1) Propose a chair for the PMC.
>>> 2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions
>>> 3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list
>>> 4) Propose graduation in the IPMC
>>> 5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC
>>> 6) Do all the work of actually graduating
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
>>>> in my earlier email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mentors,
>>>>
>>>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
>>>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>>>>
>>>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process.
>>>> One
>>>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
>>>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ramesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Project Graduation email content:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Project Status:
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
>>>>
>>>> Project website:
>>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Project Documentation:
>>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
>>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
>>>>
>>>> Project maturity Assessment:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+
>>>> Ma
>>>> turity+Model
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
>>>> Proposed PMC size: 15
>>>>
>>>> Total number of committers : 14 members
>>>> Total number of contributors : 22 members
>>>>
>>>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
>>>>
>>>> * Hortonworks (7)
>>>> Privacera (2)
>>>> BlueTalon (1)
>>>>
>>>> 1802 commits on develop
>>>> 8 PR’s on GitHub
>>>> 22 contributors across all branches
>>>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
>>>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
>>>> 1208 issues created
>>>> 997 issues resolved
>>>>
>>>> Committer’s affiliation:
>>>> Active:
>>>> Hortonworks
>>>> Talend
>>>> Freestone infotech
>>>> BlueTalon
>>>> eBay
>>>> other
>>>>
>>>> Resolution:
>>>>
>>>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to
>>>> establish a
>>>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>>> of
>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>>> related
>>>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
>>>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
>>>> architectures.
>>>>
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
>>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
>>>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
>>>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
>>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>>>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
>>>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>>> projects
>>>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be
>>>> it
>>>> further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
>>>>
>>>> Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
>>>> Don Bosco Durai bosco@apache.org
>>>> Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
>>>> Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
>>>> Larry Mccay lmccay@apache.org
>>>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj madhan@apache.org
>>>> Ramesh Mani rmani@hortonworks.com
>>>> Sanjay Radia sanjay@hortonworks.com
>>>> Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
>>>> Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
>>>>
>>>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
>>>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
>>>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>>>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>>> with
>>>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
>>>> and
>>>> increased participation in the
>>>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>>> the
>>>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>>>> hereafter
>>>> discharged.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mentors -
>>>>>
>>>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready
>>>>> for
>>>>> this discussion to begin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and
>>>>> how
>>>>> to
>>>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to
>>>>> go
>>>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that
>>>>> can
>>>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> --larry
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
So you took those on the PPMC and put them on the PMC, and those who were committers remain committers. The other option many podlings take is to put everyone who’s part of the podling onto the PMC. Either is fine, but the podling should discuss it and agree. I haven’t seen any discussion so far beyond this thread, but perhaps I’ve missed it.
Also, did you have any feedback on the recommendation that you keep at least one of the mentors on the PMC? Again, I think this should be discussed in the podling.
Alan.
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:49, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this
> is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which
> is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list
> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the
> number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook?
>
> Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project
> summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need
> input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done.
>
> Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a
> separate email and address this.
>
> Thanks for your detailed input.
>
> Ramesh
>
>
>
> On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 for getting this process started.
>>
>> Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at.
>>
>> I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve
>> made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable
>> diversity in the committers.
>>
>> One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the
>> Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18
>> members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was
>> that decided? In a related question there appear to be community
>> members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that
>> distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from
>> Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below?
>>
>> Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the
>> mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give
>> guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a
>> deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying
>> you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see
>> which of them would be willing to stay on.
>>
>> As to the process of graduation, see
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>>
>> Next steps:
>> 1) Propose a chair for the PMC.
>> 2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions
>> 3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list
>> 4) Propose graduation in the IPMC
>> 5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC
>> 6) Do all the work of actually graduating
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
>>> in my earlier email.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Mentors,
>>>
>>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
>>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>>>
>>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process.
>>> One
>>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
>>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ramesh
>>>
>>>
>>> Project Graduation email content:
>>>
>>>
>>> Project Status:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
>>>
>>> Project website:
>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
>>>
>>> Project Documentation:
>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
>>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
>>>
>>> Project maturity Assessment:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+
>>> Ma
>>> turity+Model
>>>
>>>
>>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
>>> Proposed PMC size: 15
>>>
>>> Total number of committers : 14 members
>>> Total number of contributors : 22 members
>>>
>>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
>>>
>>> * Hortonworks (7)
>>> Privacera (2)
>>> BlueTalon (1)
>>>
>>> 1802 commits on develop
>>> 8 PR’s on GitHub
>>> 22 contributors across all branches
>>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
>>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
>>> 1208 issues created
>>> 997 issues resolved
>>>
>>> Committer’s affiliation:
>>> Active:
>>> Hortonworks
>>> Talend
>>> Freestone infotech
>>> BlueTalon
>>> eBay
>>> other
>>>
>>> Resolution:
>>>
>>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to
>>> establish a
>>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>> of
>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>> related
>>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
>>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
>>> architectures.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
>>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
>>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
>>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
>>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>> projects
>>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be
>>> it
>>> further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
>>>
>>> Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
>>> Don Bosco Durai bosco@apache.org
>>> Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
>>> Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
>>> Larry Mccay lmccay@apache.org
>>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj madhan@apache.org
>>> Ramesh Mani rmani@hortonworks.com
>>> Sanjay Radia sanjay@hortonworks.com
>>> Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
>>> Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
>>>
>>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
>>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
>>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>> with
>>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
>>> and
>>> increased participation in the
>>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>> the
>>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>>> hereafter
>>> discharged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Mentors -
>>>>
>>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>>>> Apache
>>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready
>>>> for
>>>> this discussion to begin.
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and
>>>> how
>>>> to
>>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to
>>>> go
>>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that
>>>> can
>>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --larry
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com>.
Hi Alan,
Regarding your question on Number of proposed PMCs, I am not sure how this
is proposed. In resolution I counted only the number of PMC members which
is 10 people. I got those numbers from Ranger Team members list
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html. Should this be the
number of members in the Ranger Apache poling from Apache Phonebook?
Regarding chair affiliation I shall correct that in my Ranger project
summary for graduation. Since there is no chair for the Ranger PMC, I need
input from Mentors on how this proposal process is done.
Regarding requesting Ranger Mentors to be part of PMC, let me send out a
separate email and address this.
Thanks for your detailed input.
Ramesh
On 11/22/16, 3:52 PM, "Alan Gates" <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>+1 for getting this process started.
>
>Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at.
>
>I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve
>made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable
>diversity in the committers.
>
>One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the
>Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18
>members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was
>that decided? In a related question there appear to be community
>members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that
>distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from
>Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below?
>
>Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the
>mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give
>guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a
>deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying
>you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see
>which of them would be willing to stay on.
>
>As to the process of graduation, see
>http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
>Next steps:
>1) Propose a chair for the PMC.
>2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions
>3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list
>4) Propose graduation in the IPMC
>5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC
>6) Do all the work of actually graduating
>
>Alan.
>
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
>> in my earlier email.
>>
>>
>> Hello Mentors,
>>
>> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
>> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>>
>> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process.
>>One
>> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
>> Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ramesh
>>
>>
>> Project Graduation email content:
>>
>>
>> Project Status:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
>>
>> Project website:
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
>>
>> Project Documentation:
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
>> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
>>
>> Project maturity Assessment:
>>
>>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+
>>Ma
>> turity+Model
>>
>>
>> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
>> Proposed PMC size: 15
>>
>> Total number of committers : 14 members
>> Total number of contributors : 22 members
>>
>> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
>>
>> * Hortonworks (7)
>> Privacera (2)
>> BlueTalon (1)
>>
>> 1802 commits on develop
>> 8 PR’s on GitHub
>> 22 contributors across all branches
>> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
>> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
>> 1208 issues created
>> 997 issues resolved
>>
>> Committer’s affiliation:
>> Active:
>> Hortonworks
>> Talend
>> Freestone infotech
>> BlueTalon
>> eBay
>> other
>>
>> Resolution:
>>
>> Establish the Apache Ranger Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to
>>establish a
>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>related
>> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
>> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
>> architectures.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
>> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
>> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>projects
>> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be
>>it
>> further
>>
>> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
>>
>> Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
>> Don Bosco Durai bosco@apache.org
>> Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
>> Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
>> Larry Mccay lmccay@apache.org
>> Madhanmohan Neethiraj madhan@apache.org
>> Ramesh Mani rmani@hortonworks.com
>> Sanjay Radia sanjay@hortonworks.com
>> Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
>> Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
>>
>> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
>> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked
>>with
>> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
>>and
>> increased participation in the
>> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with
>>the
>> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
>>hereafter
>> discharged.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Mentors -
>>>
>>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>>> Apache
>>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready
>>>for
>>> this discussion to begin.
>>>
>>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and
>>>how
>>> to
>>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>>>
>>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to
>>>go
>>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that
>>>can
>>> be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> --larry
>>
>
>
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>.
+1 for getting this process started.
Ramesh, this is a very nice summary of where the project’s at.
I looked through the maturity assessment and the podling status. We’ve made a number of releases and grown the community. There’s reasonable diversity in the committers.
One question I had is how you arrived at the proposed PMC. Per the Apache phonebook ( http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html ) there’s 18 members of the podling. Yet the resolution has only 10 people. How was that decided? In a related question there appear to be community members who will be committers but not PMC members. How was that distinction drawn? And how is it known that the chair will be from Hortonworks, since no chair is yet named in the proposal below?
Also, I’ve seen in many podlings it is helpful to keep one or more of the mentors on the PMC for the first year, as they can continue to give guidance. Also, the mentors are often Apache members and thus have a deep knowledge of Apache ways that can come in helpful. I’m not saying you have to keep all of the mentors but you should ask around and see which of them would be willing to stay on.
As to the process of graduation, see http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
Next steps:
1) Propose a chair for the PMC.
2) Answer any mentor concerns or questions
3) Formally vote on the resolution in the dev list
4) Propose graduation in the IPMC
5) Vote on graduation in the IPMC
6) Do all the work of actually graduating
Alan.
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 14:23, Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
> in my earlier email.
>
>
> Hello Mentors,
>
> Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
> graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
>
> Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. One
> thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
> Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
>
> Thanks,
> Ramesh
>
>
> Project Graduation email content:
>
>
> Project Status:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
>
> Project website:
> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
>
> Project Documentation:
> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
> http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
>
> Project maturity Assessment:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+Ma
> turity+Model
>
>
> DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
> Proposed PMC size: 15
>
> Total number of committers : 14 members
> Total number of contributors : 22 members
>
> PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
>
> * Hortonworks (7)
> Privacera (2)
> BlueTalon (1)
>
> 1802 commits on develop
> 8 PR’s on GitHub
> 22 contributors across all branches
> Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
> User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
> 1208 issues created
> 997 issues resolved
>
> Committer’s affiliation:
> Active:
> Hortonworks
> Talend
> Freestone infotech
> BlueTalon
> eBay
> other
>
> Resolution:
>
> Establish the Apache Ranger Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to establish a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
> to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
> to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
> architectures.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
> platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
> applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects
> within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
>
> Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
> Don Bosco Durai bosco@apache.org
> Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
> Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
> Larry Mccay lmccay@apache.org
> Madhanmohan Neethiraj madhan@apache.org
> Ramesh Mani rmani@hortonworks.com
> Sanjay Radia sanjay@hortonworks.com
> Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
> Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
>
> NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
> office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
> increased participation in the
> Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
> discharged.
>
>
>
> On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mentors -
>>
>> The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>> Apache
>> Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready for
>> this discussion to begin.
>>
>> Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and how
>> to
>> drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>>
>> I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to go
>> through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that can
>> be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> --larry
>
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com>.
Sending this email again because of some formatting issue and correction
in my earlier email.
Hello Mentors,
Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. One
thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger".
Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
Thanks,
Ramesh
Project Graduation email content:
Project Status:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
Project website:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org <http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/>
Project Documentation:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
Project maturity Assessment:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+Ma
turity+Model
DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
Proposed PMC size: 15
Total number of committers : 14 members
Total number of contributors : 22 members
PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
* Hortonworks (7)
Privacera (2)
BlueTalon (1)
1802 commits on develop
8 PR’s on GitHub
22 contributors across all branches
Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
1208 issues created
997 issues resolved
Committer’s affiliation:
Active:
Hortonworks
Talend
Freestone infotech
BlueTalon
eBay
other
Resolution:
Establish the Apache Ranger Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to establish a
Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
to a data management platform That provides real-time, consistent access
to data-intensive applications throughout widely distributed cloud
architectures.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to a data management
platform that provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive
applications throughout widely distributed cloud architectures.
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Ranger
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects
within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Ranger Project; and be it
further
RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
Don Bosco Durai bosco@apache.org
Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
Larry Mccay lmccay@apache.org
Madhanmohan Neethiraj madhan@apache.org
Ramesh Mani rmani@hortonworks.com
Sanjay Radia sanjay@hortonworks.com
Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that "XXXXXX" be appointed to the
office of Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and
subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
increased participation in the
Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration of the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Ranger polling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter
discharged.
On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hello Mentors -
>
>The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>Apache
>Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready for
>this discussion to begin.
>
>Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and how
>to
>drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>
>I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to go
>through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that can
>be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks!
>
>--larry
Re: [MENTORS] Guidance on Graduation to TLP for Apache Ranger
Posted by Ramesh Mani <rm...@hortonworks.com>.
Hello Mentors,
Here is the draft version of documentation I have created for the
graduation of Apache Ranger Project, based on apache guide lines in
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html.
Now I need your guidance on how should I take this to voting process. One
thing I am not sure of is calling out "Vice President, Apache Ranger².
Is this something ranger community decide and elect?
Thanks,
Ramesh
Project Graduation email content:
Project Status:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ranger.html
Project website:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org
Project Documentation:
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html#
<http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/index.html>
http://ranger.incubator.apache.org/quick_start_guide.html
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Release+Folders
Project maturity Assessment:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/RANGER/Apache+Ranger+Project+M
aturity+Model
DRAFT of the board resolution is at the bottom of this email
Proposed PMC size: 15
Total number of committers: 40 members
PMC affiliation (* indicated chair)
Ebay (1)
* Hortonworks (10)
Privacera (2)
BlueTalon (1)
Others (1)
1802 commits on develop
8 PR¹s on GitHub
22 contributors across all branches
Dev list averaged ~60 msgs/month in 2016
User list averaged ~50 msgs/month in 2016
1208 issues created
997 issues resolved
Committer¹s affiliation:
Active:
Hortonworks
Talend
BlueTalon
eBay
Resolution:
Establish the Apache Ranger Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and
consistent with the Foundation¹s purpose to establish a Project
Management Committee
charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for
distribution at no charge to the public, related to a data management
platform
That provides real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications
throughout
widely distributed cloud architectures.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be
known as the "Apache Ranger Project", be and hereby is established
pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED,that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation
and maintenance of software related to a data management platform that
provides
real-time, consistent access to data-intensive applications throughout
widely
distributed cloud architectures.
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ranger² be and
hereby is created, the
person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of
Directors
as the chair of the Apache Ranger Project, and to have primary
responsibility for
management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the
Apache Ranger
Project; and be it further
RESOLVED,that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve
as the initial members of the Apache Ranger Project:
Balaji Ganesan bganesan@apache.org
Don Bosco Durai
bosco@apache.org
Dilli Arumugam dillidorai@apache.org
Kevin Minder kminder@apache.org
Larry Mccay
lmccay@apache.org
Madhanmohan Neethiraj
madhan@apache.org
Ramesh Mani
rmani@hortonworks.com
Sanjay Radia
sanjay@hortonworks.com
Selvamohan Neethiraj sneethir@apache.org
Velmurugan Periasamy vel@apache.org
NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that ³XXXXXX" be appointed to the
office of
Vice President, Apache Ranger, to serve in accordance with and subject to
the
direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
until death,
resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a
successor is
appointed; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ranger PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of
a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased
participation in the
Apache Ranger Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Ranger Project be and hereby is tasked with the
migration of
the Apache Incubator Ranger podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Ranger podling
encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged.
On 11/22/16, 7:55 AM, "larry mccay" <lm...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hello Mentors -
>
>The Rnger community has recently been inquiring about graduation for
>Apache
>Ranger and I think that the maturity and state of the project is ready for
>this discussion to begin.
>
>Would anyone have any specific guidance in starting this process and how
>to
>drive it through the VOTE for the project, incubator and to the board?
>
>I would like to try and avoid the thrashing that other projects had to go
>through in order to be considered mature enough - so any guidance that can
>be provided would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks!
>
>--larry