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Status of 10.0.x

Hi all,

Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has 
always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.

Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a 
10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If, 
not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?

Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that 
to follow.

Mark

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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Emmanuel Bourg <eb...@apache.org>.
Le 26/09/2022 à 16:50, Mark Thomas a écrit :

> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has 
> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
> 
> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a 
> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If, 
> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?

 From the Debian point of view, since Tomcat 10 hasn't been packaged yet 
dropping 10.0.x will have no impact, we'll skip directly to 10.1.x in 
Debian Bookworm.

Emmanuel Bourg

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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 26/09/2022 16:07, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>>
>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
> 
> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
> of time ?
> 
> Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
> the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
> for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.

Agreed. My thinking on how to do this has changed. I am currently 
thinking that when 9.0.x reaches end of life we create the 9.10.x branch 
and then do a diff against 10.0.x and back-port every change apart from 
those that change (or support) the Java EE API.

I think that will be less work.

>> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
>> to follow.
> 
> Ok !

:)

Mark

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RE: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by jo...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID.
Thanks for the info. We were discussing strategy this morning and there was the question of 10.0x vs 10.1x. :-)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 1:36 PM
> To: dev@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
> 
> On 26/10/2022 17:45, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x
> releases come to an end?
> 
> The plan has always been for 10.0.x releases to cease once 10.1.x was stable.
> 
> My current expectation is that there will not be any further 10.0.x releases. I
> am intending to remove 10.0.x from the downloads as part of the November
> release round.
> 
> A serious security vulnerability in 10.0.x might change that. Equally, we might
> decide that an update to 10.1.x was an appropriate mitigation.
> 
> The final caveat is that any committer can decide to create a release
> candidate of any branch at any time. If they get at least 3 +1 votes from PMC
> members and more +1 votes than -1 votes then that release candidate will
> become a formal release. I'm not aware of any such plans but - in theory - it
> could happen.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> >
> > Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
> >> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >>>>>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas
> <ma...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat
> <re...@apache.org>
> >> 写道:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
> >> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
> >>>>>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10.1.x
> >> was stable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there
> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> be a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
> >>>>>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
> >> be?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
> >>>>>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
> >>>>>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
> >>>>>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the
> >>>>>> translations
> >> etc?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or we wait until the following week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or ... ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> >>>>
> >>>> So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
> >>>
> >>> I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
> >>> emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
> >>> that plan.
> >>
> >> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
> >>
> >> Rémy
> >>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 26/10/2022 17:45, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x releases come to an end?

The plan has always been for 10.0.x releases to cease once 10.1.x was 
stable.

My current expectation is that there will not be any further 10.0.x 
releases. I am intending to remove 10.0.x from the downloads as part of 
the November release round.

A serious security vulnerability in 10.0.x might change that. Equally, 
we might decide that an update to 10.1.x was an appropriate mitigation.

The final caveat is that any committer can decide to create a release 
candidate of any branch at any time. If they get at least 3 +1 votes 
from PMC members and more +1 votes than -1 votes then that release 
candidate will become a formal release. I'm not aware of any such plans 
but - in theory - it could happen.

Mark


> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
>> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
>> 写道:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
>> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
>>>>>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x
>> was stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will
>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
>>>>>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
>> be?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
>>>>>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
>>>>>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
>>>>>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations
>> etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or we wait until the following week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or ... ?
>>>>
>>>> Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
>>>>
>>>> So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
>>> emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
>>> that plan.
>>
>> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
>>
>> Rémy
>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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RE: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by jo...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID.
Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x releases come to an end?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > >>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> 写道:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
> > >>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x
> was stable.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will
> > >>>>>>>> be a
> > >>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
> > >>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
> be?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
> > >>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
> > >>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
> > >>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations
> etc?
> > >>
> > >> Or we wait until the following week.
> > >>
> > >> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
> > >>
> > >> Or ... ?
> > >
> > > Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> > >
> > > So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
> >
> > I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
> > emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
> > that plan.
> 
> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
> 
> Rémy
> 
> > Mark
> >
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
> >>>>>>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
> >>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
> >>>>>>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
> >>>>> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
> >>>>> issues - make that the final release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
> >>>> is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> >>>
> >>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations etc?
> >>
> >> Or we wait until the following week.
> >>
> >> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
> >>
> >> Or ... ?
> >
> > Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> >
> > So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
>
> I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
> emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
> that plan.

That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.

Rémy

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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>>>>>>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>>>>>>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
>>>>> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
>>>>> issues - make that the final release.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
>>>> is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
>>>
>>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations etc?
>>
>> Or we wait until the following week.
>>
>> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
>>
>> Or ... ?
> 
> Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> 
> So you have all the options on the table now I believe.

I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions 
emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with 
that plan.

Mark

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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
> >>>>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
> >>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
> >>>>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
> >>> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
> >>> issues - make that the final release.
> >>
> >> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
> >> is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> >
> > Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations etc?
>
> Or we wait until the following week.
>
> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
>
> Or ... ?

Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).

So you have all the options on the table now I believe.

Rémy

> Mark
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>>>>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>>>>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
>>> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
>>> issues - make that the final release.
>>
>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
>> is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> 
> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations etc?

Or we wait until the following week.

Or I could do the 9.0.x release.

Or ... ?

Mark

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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>>>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>>>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
>> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
>> issues - make that the final release.
> 
> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
> is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.

Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations etc?

Mark


> 
> Remy
> 
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Han
>>>
>>>> Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
>>>> of time ?
>>>>
>>>> Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
>>>> the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
>>>> for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.
>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
>>>>> to follow.
>>>>
>>>> Ok !
>>>>
>>>> Rémy
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> >
> >
> >> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
> >>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
> >>>
> >>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
> >>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
> >>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
> >>
> >> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> >
> > +1
>
> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of
> October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no
> issues - make that the final release.

Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since there
is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.

Remy

> Mark
>
>
> >
> > Han
> >
> >> Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
> >> of time ?
> >>
> >> Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
> >> the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
> >> for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.
> >>
> >>> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
> >>> to follow.
> >>
> >> Ok !
> >>
> >> Rémy
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> 
> 
>> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>>>
>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
>>
>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> 
> +1

Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the start of 
October (i.e. start the release process next week) and - assuming no 
issues - make that the final release.

Mark


> 
> Han
> 
>> Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
>> of time ?
>>
>> Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
>> the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
>> for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.
>>
>>> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
>>> to follow.
>>
>> Ok !
>>
>> Rémy
>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Han Li <li...@apache.org>.

> 2022年9月26日 23:07,Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> 写道:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
>> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>> 
>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
>> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?
> 
> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.

+1

Han

> Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
> of time ?
> 
> Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
> the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
> for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.
> 
>> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
>> to follow.
> 
> Ok !
> 
> Rémy
> 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Status of 10.0.x

Posted by Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than plan has
> always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x was stable.
>
> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will be a
> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x. release? If,
> not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there be?

I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
Maybe we could make a promise for critical security fixes for a period
of time ?

Another item: there was supposed to be a 9.10 branch. But right now,
the changes are probably not significant enough and it's simply better
for everyone to keep all the work on 9.0.

> Keep in mind that work on 11.0.x could start shortly - thread about that
> to follow.

Ok !

Rémy

>
> Mark
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