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[jira] [Created] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
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Key: LUCENE-3558
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
Project: Lucene - Java
Issue Type: Improvement
Reporter: Robert Muir
Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Michael McCandless (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-3558:
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I think NRTManager should move to oal.search?
And I think moving to core is a good idea.
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Updated] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer updated LUCENE-3558:
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next iteration moving NRTCachingDirectory to core too. TestNRTManager depends on it and I think its worth it anyway so lets do it here to while we on it. I will open a follow up to enable this in tests etc.
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Updated] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer updated LUCENE-3558:
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here is a patch that moves NRTManager & SearcherManager into core. Both are now in o.a.l.search - To apply the patch run the bash file first or the included svn commands
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Mark Miller (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-3558:
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bq. moving NRTCachingDirectory to core too
+1 - if it's the normal recommendation for NRT it should be part of core.
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Michael McCandless (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-3558:
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Thanks Simon! Can we also move SearcherLifetimeManager? And... I think we should move NRTCachingDirectory as well (or we can do this separately...).
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Steven Rowe (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Steven Rowe commented on LUCENE-3558:
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bq. here is a patch that moves NRTManager & SearcherManager into core. Both are now in o.a.l.search - To apply the patch run the bash file first or the included svn commands
I'm curious why you used {{svn copy}} instead of {{svn move}}?
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer commented on LUCENE-3558:
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bq. Can we also move SearcherLifetimeManager
I wasn't sure about this one - SeracherManager and NRTManager went through serious refactorings since they where added. But we can still do that if it is in core... I will mover the NRTCachingDirectory in a different issue.
bq. I'm curious why you used svn copy instead of svn move?
I used svn cp since the patch removes the files and otherwise some systems have problems if the files don't exist anymore. I used svn mv to create the patch actually :)
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Updated] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer updated LUCENE-3558:
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LUCENE-3558.patch
new patch moving SearcherLifetimeManager into core and adds additional @lucene.experimental to NRTManagerReopenThread & SearcherLifetimeManager
I think this is ready.
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Updated] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer updated LUCENE-3558:
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new patch containing CHANGES entries
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Assigned] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Assigned) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer reassigned LUCENE-3558:
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Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Michael McCandless (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-3558:
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OK we can leave SearcherLifetimeMGR in contrib for now...
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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[jira] [Resolved] (LUCENE-3558) SearcherManager and NRTManager
should be in the same package
Posted by "Simon Willnauer (Resolved) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Simon Willnauer resolved LUCENE-3558.
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Resolution: Fixed
Lucene Fields: New,Patch Available (was: New)
committed to trunk and backported to 3.x
> SearcherManager and NRTManager should be in the same package
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LUCENE-3558
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3558
> Project: Lucene - Java
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Robert Muir
> Assignee: Simon Willnauer
> Fix For: 3.5, 4.0
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.patch, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh, LUCENE-3558.sh
>
>
> I didnt even know NRTManager was still around, because its in the .index package, whereas SearcherManager is in the .search package.
> Separately, I don't like that this stuff is so 'hard' with core lucene... would it be so bad if this stuff was added to core?
> I suspect a lot of people have issues with this stuff (see http://www.lucidimagination.com/search/document/37964e5f0e5d733b) for example.
> Worst case is just that, combine mistakes with trying to manage this stuff with MMap unmapping and total lack of error detection
> for searching closed readers (LUCENE-3439) and its a mess.
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