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Posted to dev@karaf.apache.org by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> on 2011/11/24 23:31:24 UTC
[DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
I have the following big new features in mind:
* regions (KARAF-1009)
* subshells (KARAF-647)
* profiles
* test framework (KARAF-1004)
Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
be good imho.
Thoughts ?
--
------------------------
Guillaume Nodet
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Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
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http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Andreas Pieber <an...@gmail.com>.
Nothing to add to the Roadmap; I like the plan and the targeted release
time (mid dec). My personal plan is finishing the test-framework port this
week and start porting the trunks of my largest projects to karaf trunk
there after to find any remaining compatibility issues and fix them before
the official karaf-3.0.0 release.
So +1 from my side.
Kind regards,
Andreas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 09:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi Toni,
>
> I started to work on it but not yet finished/fixed.
>
> I will take a look and eventually update Pax Url.
>
> I will keep you posted.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 11/25/2011 09:36 AM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> Regarding https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/KARAF-910<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-910>is there anything
>> Pax URL can do ? Can someone explain how to reproduce it ?
>> I would imaging some race condition as aether itself is a quite complex
>> system running in its own little injection container. Would probably give
>> an upgraded aether a shot..
>> Any other hints ?
>>
>> Toni
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:31 AM, David Jencks<da...@yahoo.com>**
>> wrote:
>>
>> I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
>>>
>>> I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
>>>
>>> I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I believe
>>> this is related to pax-url using aether and it being unconfigured during
>>> most of startup. When I was working on geronimo I saw in the log that
>>> the
>>> bundle in the karaf repo and local repo were consistently ignored and
>>> aether would download the bundle from a remote repo first. Since then
>>> I've
>>> decided to use only startup features in geronimo until this is solved.
>>>
>>> Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or
>>> karaf upgrade?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>> * profiles
>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>
>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>> be good imho.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Toni,
I started to work on it but not yet finished/fixed.
I will take a look and eventually update Pax Url.
I will keep you posted.
Regards
JB
On 11/25/2011 09:36 AM, Toni Menzel wrote:
> Regarding https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-910 is there anything
> Pax URL can do ? Can someone explain how to reproduce it ?
> I would imaging some race condition as aether itself is a quite complex
> system running in its own little injection container. Would probably give
> an upgraded aether a shot..
> Any other hints ?
>
> Toni
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:31 AM, David Jencks<da...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
>>
>> I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
>>
>> I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I believe
>> this is related to pax-url using aether and it being unconfigured during
>> most of startup. When I was working on geronimo I saw in the log that the
>> bundle in the karaf repo and local repo were consistently ignored and
>> aether would download the bundle from a remote repo first. Since then I've
>> decided to use only startup features in geronimo until this is solved.
>>
>> Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or
>> karaf upgrade?
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>> * profiles
>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>
>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>> be good imho.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Regarding https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-910 is there anything
Pax URL can do ? Can someone explain how to reproduce it ?
I would imaging some race condition as aether itself is a quite complex
system running in its own little injection container. Would probably give
an upgraded aether a shot..
Any other hints ?
Toni
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:31 AM, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
>
> I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
>
> I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I believe
> this is related to pax-url using aether and it being unconfigured during
> most of startup. When I was working on geronimo I saw in the log that the
> bundle in the karaf repo and local repo were consistently ignored and
> aether would download the bundle from a remote repo first. Since then I've
> decided to use only startup features in geronimo until this is solved.
>
> Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or
> karaf upgrade?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
> > I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
> > I have the following big new features in mind:
> > * regions (KARAF-1009)
> > * subshells (KARAF-647)
> > * profiles
> > * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> > Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
> > about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
> >
> > The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
> > should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> > Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
> > be good imho.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------
> > Guillaume Nodet
> > ------------------------
> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> > ------------------------
> > Open Source SOA
> > http://fusesource.com
>
>
--
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com>.
Awesome!
Let's start focusing for mid December and see how it goes!
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Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi guys,
sorry was kinda off-line during the weekend :)
yeah I work on a lot of improvements for pax web and I really want to
see pax web 2.0 being included in Karaf 3.0.
Pax Web 2.0 should contain the following:
Support of Jetty 8
Support of Servlet 3.0 (including annotations)
Support of JSF 2.x
Support of jetty-web.xml
Which should give us support of virtual hosts on a web-app basis ...
and lots of bugfixes :)
anyone who might be interested might take a look at the current release
notes.
http://team.ops4j.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10110&version=10443
best regards, Achim
Am 25.11.2011 06:50, schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm agree with the Guillaume's roadmap.
>
> Regarding profiles and sub-shell, I should have something to propose
> on Tuesday or Wednesday next week (I have something not so bad on my
> private git branch).
>
> I'm going to prepare the "roadmap" on Jira by selecting the issues
> that we need to include.
>
> Regarding Jetty 8, Achim and I are working on Pax Web 2.0. It will be
> a Pax Web upgrade as Karaf will fully use Pax Web, including the Pax
> Web features XML.
> Pax Web 2.0 includes Jetty 8 and a bunch of new features.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/25/2011 12:31 AM, David Jencks wrote:
>> I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
>>
>> I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
>>
>> I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I
>> believe this is related to pax-url using aether and it being
>> unconfigured during most of startup. When I was working on geronimo
>> I saw in the log that the bundle in the karaf repo and local repo
>> were consistently ignored and aether would download the bundle from a
>> remote repo first. Since then I've decided to use only startup
>> features in geronimo until this is solved.
>>
>> Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade
>> or karaf upgrade?
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>> * profiles
>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>
>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>> be good imho.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi guys,
I'm agree with the Guillaume's roadmap.
Regarding profiles and sub-shell, I should have something to propose on
Tuesday or Wednesday next week (I have something not so bad on my
private git branch).
I'm going to prepare the "roadmap" on Jira by selecting the issues that
we need to include.
Regarding Jetty 8, Achim and I are working on Pax Web 2.0. It will be a
Pax Web upgrade as Karaf will fully use Pax Web, including the Pax Web
features XML.
Pax Web 2.0 includes Jetty 8 and a bunch of new features.
Regards
JB
On 11/25/2011 12:31 AM, David Jencks wrote:
> I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
>
> I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
>
> I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I believe this is related to pax-url using aether and it being unconfigured during most of startup. When I was working on geronimo I saw in the log that the bundle in the karaf repo and local repo were consistently ignored and aether would download the bundle from a remote repo first. Since then I've decided to use only startup features in geronimo until this is solved.
>
> Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or karaf upgrade?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>> * profiles
>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>
>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>> be good imho.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I enthusiastically applaud any idea of getting a karaf 3 out soon.
I think a lot of the open issues might actually be solved already.
I think that we need to solve KARAF-910 before any release. I believe this is related to pax-url using aether and it being unconfigured during most of startup. When I was working on geronimo I saw in the log that the bundle in the karaf repo and local repo were consistently ignored and aether would download the bundle from a remote repo first. Since then I've decided to use only startup features in geronimo until this is solved.
Is there a plan to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or karaf upgrade?
thanks
david jencks
On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
> I have the following big new features in mind:
> * regions (KARAF-1009)
> * subshells (KARAF-647)
> * profiles
> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>
> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
> be good imho.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
Just to be clear, once we have 3.0.0 out I fully expect to see 3.0.x
go into the 6 to 8 week patch roll up schedule we've maintained on
2.1.x and 2.2.x branches. So if we do spot some missed item, bug, or
omitted documentation then we can correct it quickly. I know that
where ever we cut for 3.0.0 there will eventually be some issue we'll
want to address.
Cheers,
Jamie
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The additional features you're suggesting all sound find. I'd also
> like to hear from others as to other features we should consider
> required.
>
> As to time lines, I'd like to make sure that we have enough time to
> review / update the documentation, that includes for the several sub
> projects that will be making appearances along side Karaf 3.0 (we have
> more of a karaf eco-system surrounding the 3.0 line).
>
> We've taken our time building Karaf 3.0, I don't want to rush things
> at the end for an arbitrary release date. As to the actual process of
> releasing Karaf anytime, anywhere the community requests it as usual
> :)
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>> * profiles
>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>
>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>> be good imho.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
The additional features you're suggesting all sound find. I'd also
like to hear from others as to other features we should consider
required.
As to time lines, I'd like to make sure that we have enough time to
review / update the documentation, that includes for the several sub
projects that will be making appearances along side Karaf 3.0 (we have
more of a karaf eco-system surrounding the 3.0 line).
We've taken our time building Karaf 3.0, I don't want to rush things
at the end for an arbitrary release date. As to the actual process of
releasing Karaf anytime, anywhere the community requests it as usual
:)
Cheers,
Jamie
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
> I have the following big new features in mind:
> * regions (KARAF-1009)
> * subshells (KARAF-647)
> * profiles
> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>
> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
> be good imho.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Andreas Pieber <an...@gmail.com>.
Well, then maybe what we need is a min, regular, full/offline and "learn"
distribution? I'm not sure which additional use cases/distributions might
be interesting. TBH I've never needed anything else than the regular
distribution but if there is need for different types of distributions...
why not.
Kind regards,
Andreas
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 02:47, David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I always find demos and samples a confusing area. On the one hand its
> really good to supply examples of what you can do, on the other hand it is
> not fun to get a server bogged down with a lot of stuff you don't want or
> need.
>
> If we can decide that our message is "all non-trivial uses of karaf should
> have their own custom assembly" then it would be reasonable to have the
> full server include lots of demos.
>
> I'm not familiar with how the demos have been set up in the past or what
> you have in mind here. I'm not really in favor of shipping source code
> with the server assembly, which suggests to me that having each demo as a
> kar or feature would be appropriate.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Jamie G. wrote:
>
> > Apologies for confusion; under assemblies we have apache-karaf and
> > apache-karaf-minimal, with an empty directory for apache-karaf-full.
> >
> > So two distributions that we actually build kits for. So restating my
> > question, will kits under assemblies/apache-karaf contain demos?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jamie
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Something we need to nail down for Karaf 3.0.0 is just which
> >> distributions we'll be publishing.
> >>
> >> In assemblies we have references to standard, full, enterprise, and
> minimal.
> >>
> >> As the standard (apache-karaf) does not build with demos included I'll
> >> assume that we'll have those in full/enterprise edition?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Thanks Guillaume ;)
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 11/25/2011 04:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Just fixed it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Lukasz,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> what do you mean list ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services,
> >>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve
> this
> >>>>>> area?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Lukasz
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries
> trunk
> >>>>>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
> >>>>>>> ARIES-626 and
> >>>>>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the
> compatibility,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not
> >>>>>>>>> (IMO).
> >>>>>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
> >>>>>>>>> updated
> >>>>>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as
> possible.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
> >>>>>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
> >>>>>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
> >>>>>>>>>> * profiles
> >>>>>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> >>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start
> thinking
> >>>>>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I
> think we
> >>>>>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> >>>>>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december
> would
> >>>>>>>>>> be good imho.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
> >>>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
> >>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I always find demos and samples a confusing area. On the one hand its really good to supply examples of what you can do, on the other hand it is not fun to get a server bogged down with a lot of stuff you don't want or need.
If we can decide that our message is "all non-trivial uses of karaf should have their own custom assembly" then it would be reasonable to have the full server include lots of demos.
I'm not familiar with how the demos have been set up in the past or what you have in mind here. I'm not really in favor of shipping source code with the server assembly, which suggests to me that having each demo as a kar or feature would be appropriate.
thanks
david jencks
On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Jamie G. wrote:
> Apologies for confusion; under assemblies we have apache-karaf and
> apache-karaf-minimal, with an empty directory for apache-karaf-full.
>
> So two distributions that we actually build kits for. So restating my
> question, will kits under assemblies/apache-karaf contain demos?
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Something we need to nail down for Karaf 3.0.0 is just which
>> distributions we'll be publishing.
>>
>> In assemblies we have references to standard, full, enterprise, and minimal.
>>
>> As the standard (apache-karaf) does not build with demos included I'll
>> assume that we'll have those in full/enterprise edition?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jamie
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>> Thanks Guillaume ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2011 04:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just fixed it.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lukasz,
>>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean list ?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services,
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this
>>>>>> area?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Lukasz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>>>>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
>>>>>>> ARIES-626 and
>>>>>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not
>>>>>>>>> (IMO).
>>>>>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>>>>>>> * profiles
>>>>>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>>>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
Apologies for confusion; under assemblies we have apache-karaf and
apache-karaf-minimal, with an empty directory for apache-karaf-full.
So two distributions that we actually build kits for. So restating my
question, will kits under assemblies/apache-karaf contain demos?
Cheers,
Jamie
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jamie G. <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something we need to nail down for Karaf 3.0.0 is just which
> distributions we'll be publishing.
>
> In assemblies we have references to standard, full, enterprise, and minimal.
>
> As the standard (apache-karaf) does not build with demos included I'll
> assume that we'll have those in full/enterprise edition?
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Guillaume ;)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 11/25/2011 04:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>
>>> Just fixed it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lukasz,
>>>>
>>>> what do you mean list ?
>>>>
>>>> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services,
>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this
>>>>> area?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lukasz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>>>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
>>>>>> ARIES-626 and
>>>>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not
>>>>>>>> (IMO).
>>>>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>>>>>> * profiles
>>>>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by "Jamie G." <ja...@gmail.com>.
Something we need to nail down for Karaf 3.0.0 is just which
distributions we'll be publishing.
In assemblies we have references to standard, full, enterprise, and minimal.
As the standard (apache-karaf) does not build with demos included I'll
assume that we'll have those in full/enterprise edition?
Cheers,
Jamie
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Thanks Guillaume ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/25/2011 04:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>> Just fixed it.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lukasz,
>>>
>>> what do you mean list ?
>>>
>>> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services,
>>>> shouldn't
>>>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this
>>>> area?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Lukasz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
>>>>> ARIES-626 and
>>>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility,
>>>>> but
>>>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not
>>>>>>> (IMO).
>>>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>>>>> * profiles
>>>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks Guillaume ;)
Regards
JB
On 11/25/2011 04:54 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Just fixed it.
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> Hi Lukasz,
>>
>> what do you mean list ?
>>
>> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>>>
>>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services, shouldn't
>>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this area?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Lukasz
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>>>
>>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
>>>> ARIES-626 and
>>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility,
>>>> but
>>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
>>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>>>> updated
>>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>>>> * profiles
>>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Just fixed it.
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 16:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi Lukasz,
>
> what do you mean list ?
>
> It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
>>
>> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services, shouldn't
>> we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this area?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lukasz
>>
>>
>>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>>
>>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for
>>> ARIES-626 and
>>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility,
>>> but
>>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
>>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>>> updated
>>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>>> * profiles
>>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
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------------------------
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------------------------
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Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Lukasz,
what do you mean list ?
It's certainly due to the renaming of the commands on trunk.
Regards
JB
On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote:
> Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services, shouldn't we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this area?
>
> Regards,
> Lukasz
>
>
>> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>>
>> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for ARIES-626 and
>> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility, but
>> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
>>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>>> updated
>>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>>> * profiles
>>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>>> be good imho.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Łukasz Dywicki <lu...@code-house.org>.
Btw. currently list command on trunk displays list of services, shouldn't we list bundles, as it is done currently? Will subshells improve this area?
Regards,
Lukasz
> On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
>> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
>
> It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for ARIES-626 and
> we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility, but
> it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
>
> Dan
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
>>> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
>>> updated
>>> 0.4.1 out first.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>>>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>>>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>>>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>>>> * profiles
>>>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>>>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>>>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>>>
>>>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>>>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>>>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>>>> be good imho.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Friday, November 25, 2011 2:42:05 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
> is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
It's getting much closer, yes. There is a little more work for ARIES-626 and
we have to figure out the fragment bundle thing for the compatibility, but
it's definitely better than 0.4. :-)
Dan
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
> > Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an
> > updated
> > 0.4.1 out first.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
> >> I have the following big new features in mind:
> >> * regions (KARAF-1009)
> >> * subshells (KARAF-647)
> >> * profiles
> >> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> >> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
> >> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
> >>
> >> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
> >> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> >> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
> >> be good imho.
> >>
> >> Thoughts ?
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
For sure. We depend on a snapshot for now, but I think aries trunk
is in a usable state for us, so we just need a release of that.
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 14:36, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
> Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an updated
> 0.4.1 out first.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
>> I have the following big new features in mind:
>> * regions (KARAF-1009)
>> * subshells (KARAF-647)
>> * profiles
>> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
>> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
>> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>>
>> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
>> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
>> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
>> be good imho.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
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Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Well, we definitely need to get a usable blueprint. 0.4 is not (IMO).
Thus, we'd either need to back down to 0.3 or work hard to get an updated
0.4.1 out first.
Dan
On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:31:24 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible.
> I have the following big new features in mind:
> * regions (KARAF-1009)
> * subshells (KARAF-647)
> * profiles
> * test framework (KARAF-1004)
> Do you guys have anything more in mind or should we start thinking
> about releasing once those 3 big new features are included ?
>
> The JIRA contains more than 90 opened issues for 3.0 and I think we
> should trim that to whatever we can do in the coming weeks.
> Having 3.0 released in a few weeks, maybe aim for mid-december would
> be good imho.
>
> Thoughts ?
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