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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Adam Katz <an...@khopis.com> on 2009/10/04 01:50:13 UTC

Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

Warren Togami wrote:
>>> The "Oddity" I was pointing out at the beginning of the thread is not
>>> prevalence of .cn URI's, but rather most of them appear to be exactly 8
>>> characters long. Could someone please commit my T_CN_8_URL rule to the
>>> sandbox so we can see if that trend holds beyond my own corpa?
>>
>> (And yes I'm fully aware even this narrowed rule is prejudiced and
>> unsafe. This is is partly out of curiosity, and also wondering if it
>> could be made useful if meta booleaned with something else.)

jdow then mused:
> I just had a thought, Warren. Look up Chinese numerology. 8 signifies
> wealth or sudden prosperity. Conversely, I suspect few Chinese names
> are four characters. Four is a pun on death. Some social sites might
> like 5 letters - me. 7 is right out, it's a vulgar word in Cantonese.
> 9 is also slang or vulgar in Cantonese.
> 
> I wonder how many companies that deal with China have figured out that
> an "888" toll free number is WONDERFUL, "Wealth, wealth, wealth."
> 
> I understand numerology is quite important to the Chinese. (Of course,
> I am not claiming to be an expert. The above is mostly Wikipoodle and
> surmise.)

8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture.  When running these
tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the
ham before drawing any conclusions.

Re: .cn Oddity

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 09:59 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
>> On 10/04/2009 12:21 AM, John Hardin wrote:
>
>>>> Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I
>>>> suggest they should become rules. I am mainly curious to see what the
>>>> results say.
>>>
>>> Warning: autopromotion
>>
>> Is there a way to prevent autopromotion for a particular rule?
>
> Yep, using tflags nopublish,

Done. Will be committed momentarily.

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Re: .cn Oddity

Posted by Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de>.
On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 09:59 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
> On 10/04/2009 12:21 AM, John Hardin wrote:

> > > Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I
> > > suggest they should become rules. I am mainly curious to see what the
> > > results say.
> >
> > Warning: autopromotion
> 
> Is there a way to prevent autopromotion for a particular rule?

Yep, using tflags nopublish, or explicitly naming the rule with a T_
prefix. Also see bug 5545 [1].


[1] https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5545

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Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

Posted by Warren Togami <wt...@redhat.com>.
On 10/04/2009 12:21 AM, John Hardin wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote:
>
>> On 10/03/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Katz wrote:
>>>
>>> 8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture. When running these
>>> tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the
>>> ham before drawing any conclusions.
>>
>> Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I
>> suggest they should become rules. I am mainly curious to see what the
>> results say.
>
> Warning: autopromotion
>

Is there a way to prevent autopromotion for a particular rule?

Warren

Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Warren Togami wrote:

> On 10/03/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Katz wrote:
>>
>>  8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture.  When running these
>>  tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the
>>  ham before drawing any conclusions.
>
> Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I suggest 
> they should become rules.  I am mainly curious to see what the results say.

Warning: autopromotion

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Re: [SA] .cn Oddity

Posted by Warren Togami <wt...@redhat.com>.
On 10/03/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Katz wrote:
>
> 8 is *extremely* important in Chinese culture.  When running these
> tests, make sure that there is a good quantity of .cn TLD URIs in the
> ham before drawing any conclusions.

Right, in adding things to the sandbox it does not necessarily mean I 
suggest they should become rules.  I am mainly curious to see what the 
results say.

Warren