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Posted to p-dev@xerces.apache.org by "Jason E. Stewart" <ja...@openinformatics.com> on 2002/02/07 22:46:57 UTC
Experimental 1.6.0 release
Hey All,
I've made a beta release of XML-Xerces-1.6.0_0. It can be located at:
http://xml.apache.org/dist/xerces-p/experimental/
The only new features added are support for Xerces-C-1.6.0. Please let
me know how well this works, and I'll release a full version ASAP.
Cheers,
jas.
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Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by "Jason E. Stewart" <ja...@openinformatics.com>.
"John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
> note that the README still indicates the need to have 1.5.2
Caught that one, thanks.
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Re: t/Schema FAILS Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by "Jason E. Stewart" <ja...@openinformatics.com>.
"John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
> hacking the explicit path to the schema into personal-schema.xml solved
> the problem. that's not surprising, it's a pretty typical problem and a
> pretty typical hack. having this show up in Xerces-P is actually
> *reassuring* :-)
>
> it might be appropriate to alter Schema.t to resolve the location of the
> .xsd file instead of hacking the instance file because that way we avoid
> making the instance file look different than the one shipped with the
> other Xercen? Xercii? ( speak up all you latin speakers! :-) ).
I'm not sure why it's failing in your case. There's actually a bit of
code in t/TestUtils.pm that is supposed to resolve the file path. In
any case, I've decided to just switch to an entity resolver that
supplies the files.
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Re: t/Schema FAILS Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
hacking the explicit path to the schema into personal-schema.xml solved
the problem. that's not surprising, it's a pretty typical problem and a
pretty typical hack. having this show up in Xerces-P is actually
*reassuring* :-)
it might be appropriate to alter Schema.t to resolve the location of the
.xsd file instead of hacking the instance file because that way we avoid
making the instance file look different than the one shipped with the
other Xercen? Xercii? ( speak up all you latin speakers! :-) ).
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Utz wrote:
> me again! :-)
>
> i just remembered to run make test. :-)
>
> the Schema Test bombs because it cant find the infamous personal.xsd:
>
> t/Schema............ok 2/3WARNING:
> FILE:
> LINE: 0
> COLUMN: 0
> MESSAGE: An exception occured! Type:RuntimeException, Message:Warning: The
> primary document entity could not be opened. Id=personal.xsd
>
> OTOH, personal.xsd is going to need to be in a certain place, but i dont
> know where, any guesses?
>
> tnx!
>
> johnu
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > note that the README still indicates the need to have 1.5.2
> >
> > and, btw. thankyou very much for finding the time to put this out. i'll
> > test it very aggressively because i am hoping to use it in my current
> > project.
> >
> > On 7 Feb 2002, (Jason E. Stewart) wrote:
> >
> > > Hey All,
> > >
> > > I've made a beta release of XML-Xerces-1.6.0_0. It can be located at:
> > >
> > > http://xml.apache.org/dist/xerces-p/experimental/
> > >
> > > The only new features added are support for Xerces-C-1.6.0. Please let
> > > me know how well this works, and I'll release a full version ASAP.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > jas.
> > >
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t/Schema FAILS Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
me again! :-)
i just remembered to run make test. :-)
the Schema Test bombs because it cant find the infamous personal.xsd:
t/Schema............ok 2/3WARNING:
FILE:
LINE: 0
COLUMN: 0
MESSAGE: An exception occured! Type:RuntimeException, Message:Warning: The
primary document entity could not be opened. Id=personal.xsd
OTOH, personal.xsd is going to need to be in a certain place, but i dont
know where, any guesses?
tnx!
johnu
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Utz wrote:
> note that the README still indicates the need to have 1.5.2
>
> and, btw. thankyou very much for finding the time to put this out. i'll
> test it very aggressively because i am hoping to use it in my current
> project.
>
> On 7 Feb 2002, (Jason E. Stewart) wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I've made a beta release of XML-Xerces-1.6.0_0. It can be located at:
> >
> > http://xml.apache.org/dist/xerces-p/experimental/
> >
> > The only new features added are support for Xerces-C-1.6.0. Please let
> > me know how well this works, and I'll release a full version ASAP.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > jas.
> >
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Re: More Experimental 1.6 Release questions
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
Wow, this has been some great info!
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, David Starks-Browning wrote:
> On 8 Feb 02, Jason E. Stewart writes:
> > "John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
> >
> > > 1. Any reason why this shouldnt build/run on a win2kbox with cygwin and
> > > the latest activestate perl ( i am pretty sure that's 5.6.1 or so )?
> > > given a choice, i tend to prefer unix. but since the expensive part
> > > of this project is a windows app, and it's all supposed to be on one
> > > box, i am sorta stuck.
> >
> > I am led to believe that it is now possible to compile Xerces-C on
> > cygwin. Once upon a time it was not.
> >
> > However, if you compile Xerces under cygwin wit g++, you'll have to
> > compile perl with g++ as well - there's no standard ABI for C++, so
> > all your code has to be compiled using the same compiler. ActiveState
> > uses VC++.
blargh. that's a pretty vital fact i suspect. :-(. The app that i am
working with (Virage Video Application Server) actually makes heavy use of
perl but i dont know if they are linking in native bits somewhere. i'll
have to do some spelunking. if they dont have some special virage native
interface pm's then i am probably ok.
> Cygwin Setup now (optionally) includes perl. Presumably you'd have
> better chance of success with that. I haven't tried it myself. Our
> four unix platforms is challenging enough for me at the moment...
oh duh. that's right. i installed that! and now i've installed
activestate as well. great! :-(. i wish i had thought of that when i was
installing the virage stuff.
> Cheers,
> David
> (Cygwin FAQ maintainer)
>
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Re: More Experimental 1.6 Release questions
Posted by David Starks-Browning <st...@ebi.ac.uk>.
On 8 Feb 02, Jason E. Stewart writes:
> "John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
>
> > 1. Any reason why this shouldnt build/run on a win2kbox with cygwin and
> > the latest activestate perl ( i am pretty sure that's 5.6.1 or so )?
> > given a choice, i tend to prefer unix. but since the expensive part
> > of this project is a windows app, and it's all supposed to be on one
> > box, i am sorta stuck.
>
> I am led to believe that it is now possible to compile Xerces-C on
> cygwin. Once upon a time it was not.
>
> However, if you compile Xerces under cygwin wit g++, you'll have to
> compile perl with g++ as well - there's no standard ABI for C++, so
> all your code has to be compiled using the same compiler. ActiveState
> uses VC++.
Cygwin Setup now (optionally) includes perl. Presumably you'd have
better chance of success with that. I haven't tried it myself. Our
four unix platforms is challenging enough for me at the moment...
Cheers,
David
(Cygwin FAQ maintainer)
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Re: More Experimental 1.6 Release questions
Posted by "Jason E. Stewart" <ja...@openinformatics.com>.
"John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
> 1. Any reason why this shouldnt build/run on a win2kbox with cygwin and
> the latest activestate perl ( i am pretty sure that's 5.6.1 or so )?
> given a choice, i tend to prefer unix. but since the expensive part
> of this project is a windows app, and it's all supposed to be on one
> box, i am sorta stuck.
I am led to believe that it is now possible to compile Xerces-C on
cygwin. Once upon a time it was not.
However, if you compile Xerces under cygwin wit g++, you'll have to
compile perl with g++ as well - there's no standard ABI for C++, so
all your code has to be compiled using the same compiler. ActiveState
uses VC++.
> 2. i am trying to make the schema for my application be the normative
> reference for both the data input *and* for the UI.
>
> so, if i have 3 elements in my schema named foo, bar and baz, i want to
> have a ui that references/incorporates foo, bar and baz. and when we
> change the name of baz to snert, i dont want to have to recode the ui.
>
> so, in xerces-j i could pick the thing apart using
> org.apache.xerces.dom3.as.
>
> but DOM3 isnt implemented in xerces-c/p yet. correct?
Correct.
> so, what's the old fashioned DOM2 way to pick apart the schema? I note
> that XMLValidator has a getGrammar that returns a Grammar object, but i
> dont see the definition of a Grammar in the class docs. is a Grammar a DOM
> of the schema? if i am barking up the wrong tree with Grammar (oh, bad,
> inadvertent, geek pun....), what data structure should i be looking at to
> snag the element descriptions out of?
With DTD's it was very hard to get at this information. Every answer I
ever got was: wait for DOM3 support. It might be easier now with
schemas, but I wouldn't hold my breath. However, this question is best
asked on the xerces-c-dev list, since I really don't know the answer.
jas.
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More Experimental 1.6 Release questions
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
1. Any reason why this shouldnt build/run on a win2kbox with cygwin and
the latest activestate perl ( i am pretty sure that's 5.6.1 or so )?
given a choice, i tend to prefer unix. but since the expensive part of
this project is a windows app, and it's all supposed to be on one box, i
am sorta stuck.
if the answer is i dunno, that's fine. i'll try it and report back. if the
answer is that it cant work for some reason, then that's good to know,
cause then i gotta come up with a new plan. :-)
2. i am trying to make the schema for my application be the normative
reference for both the data input *and* for the UI.
so, if i have 3 elements in my schema named foo, bar and baz, i want to
have a ui that references/incorporates foo, bar and baz. and when we
change the name of baz to snert, i dont want to have to recode the ui.
so, in xerces-j i could pick the thing apart using
org.apache.xerces.dom3.as.
but DOM3 isnt implemented in xerces-c/p yet. correct?
so, what's the old fashioned DOM2 way to pick apart the schema? I note
that XMLValidator has a getGrammar that returns a Grammar object, but i
dont see the definition of a Grammar in the class docs. is a Grammar a DOM
of the schema? if i am barking up the wrong tree with Grammar (oh, bad,
inadvertent, geek pun....), what data structure should i be looking at to
snag the element descriptions out of?
tnx!
johnu
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Re: builds on redhat 7 Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by "Jason E. Stewart" <ja...@openinformatics.com>.
"John Utz" <ut...@singingfish.com> writes:
> hotay, so far so good. it built. no warnings
Glad to hear it.
> what's a good trivial test of the XMLSchema features? or would that be
> something that i should contribute? :-)
I would be grateful to have more than the pathetic test that I wrote.
> oh, and what about IDOM vs DOM? i've followed that thread. should i just
> use IDOM and forget about DOM?
Actually, I will be completely replacing DOM with IDOM. For now, use
IDOM, and then for the next release you can just: 's/IDOM/DOM/g'
There are unsolvable memory problems with the current DOM that are
solved under IDOM.
jas.
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builds on redhat 7 Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
hotay, so far so good. it built. no warnings
what's a good trivial test of the XMLSchema features? or would that be
something that i should contribute? :-)
oh, and what about IDOM vs DOM? i've followed that thread. should i just
use IDOM and forget about DOM?
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Utz wrote:
> note that the README still indicates the need to have 1.5.2
>
> and, btw. thankyou very much for finding the time to put this out. i'll
> test it very aggressively because i am hoping to use it in my current
> project.
>
> On 7 Feb 2002, (Jason E. Stewart) wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I've made a beta release of XML-Xerces-1.6.0_0. It can be located at:
> >
> > http://xml.apache.org/dist/xerces-p/experimental/
> >
> > The only new features added are support for Xerces-C-1.6.0. Please let
> > me know how well this works, and I'll release a full version ASAP.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > jas.
> >
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Re: Experimental 1.6.0 release
Posted by John Utz <ut...@singingfish.com>.
note that the README still indicates the need to have 1.5.2
and, btw. thankyou very much for finding the time to put this out. i'll
test it very aggressively because i am hoping to use it in my current
project.
On 7 Feb 2002, (Jason E. Stewart) wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I've made a beta release of XML-Xerces-1.6.0_0. It can be located at:
>
> http://xml.apache.org/dist/xerces-p/experimental/
>
> The only new features added are support for Xerces-C-1.6.0. Please let
> me know how well this works, and I'll release a full version ASAP.
>
> Cheers,
> jas.
>
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