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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> on 2013/09/21 00:49:38 UTC
linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
message.
http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean by
this comment --
"I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
Could you elaborate?
What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
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to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>.
From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>; BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:00 AM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[snip]
>>> +1 the package is "openoffice-debian-menus", which is the Openoffice
>>> desktop integration. This is on a Debian Wheezy system using the SF.net
>>> repos, but using KDE 3, it works on multiple DE's though, just will not
>>> test Gnome & KDE4
>>
>>
>>Great. Installed it, but it doesn't work with KDE4.
>>Hopefully the one for 4.0.1 for the freedesktop menu integration will.
> You need to install the desktop-integration parts manually, after the main install. Please see:
>http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
>
> This does not happen "automagically". I can't tell by your response here what you've done.
> If you have installed some other desktop-integration piece for AOO, I suggest you uninstall that, install the freedesktop-menus, get out of KDE then back in, to see changes.
My bad on this one.
Turns out the package didn't actually get installed - Muon Software Center in Kubuntu didn't give me any errors, but kept the package in the uninstall state.
When I dropped down to the command-line to check it out I discovered it was conflicting with the LO stuff that hadn't gotten cleaned out.
So I removed the rest of the LO stuff (apt-get remove libreoffice*) and viola it installs and is now working.
> Please be aware that this effects main KDE/mime_type/application menu integration only and not TOTAL KDE integration, e.g. kmail, etc.
At this point, that's all I ask, and I now have that. :-)
I know further integration would require development work to be done.
May be one day I'll have the time to do so myself.
Ben
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:00 AM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>
>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > On Monday 23 September 2013 14:28:52 you wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> > > > Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go
> > > > away
> > > >
> > > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
> > > > > this
> > > >
> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
> > > > > you mean
> > > >
> > > > by
> > > >
> > > > > this comment --
> > > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > > > Could you elaborate?
> > > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > > >
> > > > As the OP on the comment...
> > > >
> > > > I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on
> > > > SF.net[1].
> > > >
> > > > There is a package in there called
> > > > "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there
> > > > is no package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my
> > > > comment was about.
> > > > So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually;
> > > > nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via
> > > > KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
> > > >
> > > > Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without
> > > > requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the
> > > > name suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu
> > > > user).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right
> > > > direction.
> > >
> > > I can certainly do that. Several of "us" using KDE have found that if
> > > you install the freedesktop-menus... from the desktop-integration
> >
> >
> > +1 the package is "openoffice-debian-menus", which is the Openoffice
> > desktop integration. This is on a Debian Wheezy system using the SF.net
> > repos, but using KDE 3, it works on multiple DE's though, just will not
> > test Gnome & KDE4
>
>
> Great. Installed it, but it doesn't work with KDE4.
> Hopefully the one for 4.0.1 for the freedesktop menu integration will.
>
> Ben
>
Ben --
You need to install the desktop-integration parts manually, after the main
install. Please see:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
This does not happen "automagically". I can't tell by your response here
what you've done.
If you have installed some other desktop-integration piece for AOO, I
suggest you uninstall that, install the freedesktop-menus, get out of KDE
then back in, to see changes.
Please be aware that this effects main KDE/mime_type/application menu
integration only and not TOTAL KDE integration, e.g. kmail, etc.
I hope this helps.
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>.
From: Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> On Monday 23 September 2013 14:28:52 you wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> > > Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go
> > > away
> > >
> > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
> > > > this
> > >
> > > message.
> > >
> > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
> > > > you mean
> > >
> > > by
> > >
> > > > this comment --
> > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > > Could you elaborate?
> > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > >
> > > As the OP on the comment...
> > >
> > > I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on
> > > SF.net[1].
> > >
> > > There is a package in there called
> > > "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there
> > > is no package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my
> > > comment was about.
> > > So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually;
> > > nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via
> > > KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
> > >
> > > Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without
> > > requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the
> > > name suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu
> > > user).
> > >
> > >
> > > If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right
> > > direction.
> >
> > I can certainly do that. Several of "us" using KDE have found that if
> > you install the freedesktop-menus... from the desktop-integration
>
>
> +1 the package is "openoffice-debian-menus", which is the Openoffice
> desktop integration. This is on a Debian Wheezy system using the SF.net
> repos, but using KDE 3, it works on multiple DE's though, just will not
> test Gnome & KDE4
Great. Installed it, but it doesn't work with KDE4.
Hopefully the one for 4.0.1 for the freedesktop menu integration will.
Ben
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>.
On Monday 23 September 2013 14:28:52 you wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> > To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> > Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go
> > away
> >
> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
> > > this
> >
> > message.
> >
> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
> > > you mean
> >
> > by
> >
> > > this comment --
> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > Could you elaborate?
> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> >
> > As the OP on the comment...
> >
> > I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on
> > SF.net[1].
> >
> > There is a package in there called
> > "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there
> > is no package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my
> > comment was about.
> > So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually;
> > nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via
> > KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
> >
> > Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without
> > requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the
> > name suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu
> > user).
> >
> >
> > If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right
> > direction.
>
> I can certainly do that. Several of "us" using KDE have found that if
> you install the freedesktop-menus... from the desktop-integration
+1 the package is "openoffice-debian-menus", which is the Openoffice
desktop integration. This is on a Debian Wheezy system using the SF.net
repos, but using KDE 3, it works on multiple DE's though, just will not
test Gnome & KDE4
<snip>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> message.
> > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean
> by
> > this comment --
> > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > Could you elaborate?
> > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>
>
> As the OP on the comment...
>
> I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on SF.net[1].
>
> There is a package in there called "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1],
> which is provided by AOO; there is no package "openoffice-kde-integration"
> - which is what my comment was about.
> So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually; nor do I
> have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via KRunner and an
> explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
>
> Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without requiring
> GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the name suggests
> requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu user).
>
>
> If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right direction.
I can certainly do that. Several of "us" using KDE have found that if you
install the freedesktop-menus... from the desktop-integration
you won't have to do any manual configuration of mime-types, as this will
take care of that.
It seems this little tip needs to be added to the Install Instructions as
well. hmmm...
And of course I'll be happy to help with testing of any KDE integration.
>
Well, there will be more to do in that regard, but this is first step. I
hope it helps.
>
>
> Ben
>
>
> [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
> [2]
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice-gnome-integration/
> [3]/opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
>
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>.
On Monday 23 September 2013 15:48:00 you wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr
<gi...@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became
> > a
> >
> >>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the
> >>> Native Widget Framework.
> >>>
> >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just
> >>> like to have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> >>> Anything else is gravy.
> >>>
> >>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating
> >>> Mozilla
> >>
> >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual
> >> patches but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE
> >> Application launcher support and other things (that you dont care)
> >> like icons and themes.
> >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<http://old-en.
> >>opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> >>
> >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to
> >> switch to
> >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than
> >> AOO.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > This is getting off-topic, but Slackware 14.0 Linux was up to
> > mozilla-firefox-21.0 when, to my surprise, the next security
> > release went back down to 17.0.7esr. Here is an excerpt from the
> > linux-security.comSlackware page as to the reason Slackware did so:
> >
> > Here are the details from the Slackware 14.0 ChangeLog:
> > +--------------------------+
> >
> > patches/packages/mozilla-**firefox-17.0.7esr-i486-1_**slack14.0.txz
> >: Upgraded.
> > This release contains security fixes and improvements.
> > For more information, see:
> > http://www.mozilla.org/**security/known-**
> > vulnerabilities/firefoxESR.**html<http://www.mozilla.org/security/k
> >nown-vulnerabilities/firefoxESR.html> (* Security fix *)
> > We had to switch to ESR here as well, as there's a problem
> > running Firefox
> > 22.0 on Slackware 14.0 under KDE (crash when oxygen-gtk2 is
> > installed).
> > Forcing people to uninstall oxygen-gtk2 isn't really an
> > option for a security fix, and upgrading to the latest oxygen-gtk2
> > did not help. It's possible that future Firefox/Thunderbird
> > security updates will always
> > come from the ESR branch.
> > +--------------------------+
> >
> > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
> > Thunderbird going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> >
> > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using
> > AOO. It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using
> > LibreOffice with KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I
> > am using the freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to
> > have the same desktop file in their package. If not, well then
> > maybe the subject is not so "hell bent".
> > Hope this helps.
> > Girvin Herr
>
> We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has
> just been modified to emphasize this!
>
> We would love to hear your results with the newest version -- AOO
> 4.0.1 -- which we are voting on now and should be out VERY soon, with
> the freedesktop-integration menus.
>
> I think you'll be pleased! :)
AOO 4.0.11 RC3 is solid, but so has the history of Openoffice, for my
use, subset of feaures.
mime types are configured, .....AOO is the default app for .doc, .docx,
odf stuff.
menus are updated with all the AOO apps.
Trinity Desktop has done this: gtk,TDE theme engine.
http://trinity-announce.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::27
I have used kmail for quite some time with Openoffice, mostly using
the "email as xxx" feature, no issues, I do not do mail merges.
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Greg
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>.
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 11:34:44 you wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> >
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO
> > go away
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk
> > > <ka...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <
> >
> > girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration
> > > > > became a
> > > > >
> > > > >>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under
> > > > >>> the
> >
> > Native
> >
> > > > >>> Widget Framework.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming.
> > > > >>> I'd just
> >
> > like
> >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> > > > >>> Anything else is gravy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on
> > > > >>> integrating
> > > >
> > > > Mozilla
> > > >
> > > > >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the
> > > > >> actual
> > > >
> > > > patches
> > > >
> > > > >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE
> > > > >> Application
> >
> > launcher
> >
> > > > >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and
> > > > >> themes. http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> > > >
> > > > http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> > > >
> > > > >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be
> > > > >> trivial to
> >
> > switch
> >
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more
> > > > >> than AOO.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's
> > > > > Mozilla
> > > >
> > > > Thunderbird
> > > >
> > > > > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> > > > >
> > > > > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer
> > > > > using
> >
> > AOO.
> >
> > > > > It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using
> >
> > LibreOffice
> >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > > > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using
> > > > > the freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to
> > > > > have the same desktop file in their package. If not, well
> > > > > then maybe the subject
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > not
> > > >
> > > > > so "hell bent".
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > Girvin Herr
> > > >
> > > > We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install
> > > > guide has
> >
> > just
> >
> > > > been modified to emphasize this!
> > >
> > > Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the
> > > current freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the
> > > question about
> >
> > what
> >
> > > we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
> > > -- Aaron comment ---
> > > For mimetypes:
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-
> >info-spec-latest.html
> >
> > > File associations are done by default using application .desktop
> > > files
> >
> > and
> >
> > > modified using the mimeapps.list file in
> > > ~/.local/share/applications as
> >
> > per
> >
> > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
> > >
> > > For application menus:
> >
> > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
> >
> > > The xdg utils can make using these systems from the application
> > > side easier.
> >
> > Great, and look forward to it.
> >
> > > As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for
> > > exactly? API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you
> > > can be a bit more specific as to what the needs are I can be a
> > > bit more specific in my answer.
> >
> > Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't know the full functionality of
> > Akonadi/Nepomuk;
> > the biggest part I'm aware of is the Desktop search as they provide
> > a huge metadata
> > search functionality; but I am aware there's other things to.
> >
> > So for instance, one aspect might be to have a search option in the
> > Open File dialogs to
> > find things using that search functionality - e.g. keyword file
> > search. Windows provides
> > something similar now too, so the functionality wouldn't have to be
> > limited to KDE4.
> >
> > PIM integration would be good for shared contacts, address book,
> > etc - useful for Mail Merges,
> > letters, etc.
> >
> > As I said, I don't know everything that is there so someone would
> > probably have to look
> > at what is provided and see what makes sense to utilize. Much of
> > the functionality is stuff
> > that is slowly appearing in other platforms (GNOME, Windows), so I
> > doubt the UI side would
> > be anything specific to KDE in the end.
> >
> > May be Aaron Seigo could point us to the documentation to make the
> > list for people to
> > go through and decide what would be useful for integration?
>
> A feature that OOo used to have is to use the system file picker
> dialog. However I no longer see this option, can anyone else test
> this for me?
>
> Please go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice General -> Open/Save
> Dialog
> http://www.ofs.edu.sg/help-desk/teacher-faq/body_clip_image_055.png
It is not available on OO 4.0+ here.
I noticed the titlebar for AOO is the same, look & function, as the
titlebar in my other KDE apps.
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 24/09/2013 Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> A feature that OOo used to have is to use the system file picker dialog.
> However I no longer see this option, can anyone else test this for me?
> Please go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice General -> Open/Save Dialog
I see it normally in the now approved OpenOffice 4.0.1. Linux 64, RPM
version.
This might or might not be related, but last time I checked OpenOffice
had a freedesktop integration package in the RPM version but not in the
DEB version (where, as already discussed here, only GNOME was offered).
I don't know if there is any technical reason for this.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <
> girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
> > > >>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the
> Native
> > > >>> Widget Framework.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just
> like
> > > to
> > > >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> > > >>> Anything else is gravy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating
> > > Mozilla
> > > >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual
> > > patches
> > > >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application
> launcher
> > > >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
> > > >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> > > http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> > > >>
> > > >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to
> switch
> > > >> to
> > > >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
> > > Thunderbird
> > > > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> > > >
> > > > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using
> AOO.
> > > > It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using
> LibreOffice
> > > with
> > > > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using the
> > > > freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to have the same
> > > > desktop file in their package. If not, well then maybe the subject
> is
> > > not
> > > > so "hell bent".
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > Girvin Herr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has
> just
> > > been modified to emphasize this!
> >
> > Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the current
> > freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the question about
> what
> > we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
> > -- Aaron comment ---
> > For mimetypes:
> >
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-latest.html
> >
> > File associations are done by default using application .desktop files
> and
> > modified using the mimeapps.list file in ~/.local/share/applications as
> per
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
> >
> > For application menus:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
> >
> > The xdg utils can make using these systems from the application side
> > easier.
>
> Great, and look forward to it.
>
> > As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for exactly?
> > API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you can be a bit more
> > specific as to what the needs are I can be a bit more specific in my
> > answer.
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't know the full functionality of
> Akonadi/Nepomuk;
> the biggest part I'm aware of is the Desktop search as they provide a huge
> metadata
> search functionality; but I am aware there's other things to.
>
> So for instance, one aspect might be to have a search option in the Open
> File dialogs to
> find things using that search functionality - e.g. keyword file search.
> Windows provides
> something similar now too, so the functionality wouldn't have to be
> limited to KDE4.
>
> PIM integration would be good for shared contacts, address book, etc -
> useful for Mail Merges,
> letters, etc.
>
> As I said, I don't know everything that is there so someone would probably
> have to look
> at what is provided and see what makes sense to utilize. Much of the
> functionality is stuff
> that is slowly appearing in other platforms (GNOME, Windows), so I doubt
> the UI side would
> be anything specific to KDE in the end.
>
> May be Aaron Seigo could point us to the documentation to make the list
> for people to
> go through and decide what would be useful for integration?
>
A feature that OOo used to have is to use the system file picker dialog.
However I no longer see this option, can anyone else test this for me?
Please go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice General -> Open/Save Dialog
http://www.ofs.edu.sg/help-desk/teacher-faq/body_clip_image_055.png
>
> $0.02
>
> Ben
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>.
From: Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
> > >>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
> > >>> Widget Framework.
> > >>>
> > >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like
> > to
> > >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> > >>> Anything else is gravy.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating
> > Mozilla
> > >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual
> > patches
> > >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application launcher
> > >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
> > >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> > http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> > >>
> > >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to switch
> > >> to
> > >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
> > Thunderbird
> > > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> > >
> > > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using AOO.
> > > It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using LibreOffice
> > with
> > > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using the
> > > freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to have the same
> > > desktop file in their package. If not, well then maybe the subject is
> > not
> > > so "hell bent".
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > Girvin Herr
> > >
> > >
> > We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has just
> > been modified to emphasize this!
>
> Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the current
> freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the question about what
> we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
> -- Aaron comment ---
> For mimetypes:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-latest.html
>
> File associations are done by default using application .desktop files and
> modified using the mimeapps.list file in ~/.local/share/applications as per
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
>
> For application menus: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
>
> The xdg utils can make using these systems from the application side
> easier.
Great, and look forward to it.
> As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for exactly?
> API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you can be a bit more
> specific as to what the needs are I can be a bit more specific in my
> answer.
Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't know the full functionality of Akonadi/Nepomuk;
the biggest part I'm aware of is the Desktop search as they provide a huge metadata
search functionality; but I am aware there's other things to.
So for instance, one aspect might be to have a search option in the Open File dialogs to
find things using that search functionality - e.g. keyword file search. Windows provides
something similar now too, so the functionality wouldn't have to be limited to KDE4.
PIM integration would be good for shared contacts, address book, etc - useful for Mail Merges,
letters, etc.
As I said, I don't know everything that is there so someone would probably have to look
at what is provided and see what makes sense to utilize. Much of the functionality is stuff
that is slowly appearing in other platforms (GNOME, Windows), so I doubt the UI side would
be anything specific to KDE in the end.
May be Aaron Seigo could point us to the documentation to make the list for people to
go through and decide what would be useful for integration?
$0.02
Ben
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <girvin.herr@sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
> >>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
> >>> Widget Framework.
> >>>
> >>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like
> to
> >>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> >>> Anything else is gravy.
> >>>
> >>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating
> Mozilla
> >> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual
> patches
> >> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application launcher
> >> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
> >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<
> http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
> >>
> >> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to switch
> >> to
> >> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
> >>
> >
> >
> > The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
> Thunderbird
> > going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
> >
> > More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using AOO.
> > It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using LibreOffice
> with
> > KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using the
> > freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to have the same
> > desktop file in their package. If not, well then maybe the subject is
> not
> > so "hell bent".
> > Hope this helps.
> > Girvin Herr
> >
> >
> We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has just
> been modified to emphasize this!
>
Aaron Seigo replied to me on G+ with a few links about the current
freedesktop spec that is followed. I would forward the question about what
we want to achieve with Nepomuk:
-- Aaron comment ---
For mimetypes:
http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-latest.html
File associations are done by default using application .desktop files and
modified using the mimeapps.list file in ~/.local/share/applications as per
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/
For application menus: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
The xdg utils can make using these systems from the application side
easier.
As for Akonadi / Nepomuk, I'm not sure what you are looking for exactly?
API to hook AOO into Akonadi / Nepomuk? If so .. if you can be a bit more
specific as to what the needs are I can be a bit more specific in my
answer.
---
>
> We would love to hear your results with the newest version -- AOO 4.0.1 --
> which we are voting on now and should be out VERY soon, with the
> freedesktop-integration menus.
>
> I think you'll be pleased! :)
>
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Girvin Herr <gi...@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
> On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> <snip>
>
> There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
>>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
>>> Widget Framework.
>>>
>>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like to
>>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
>>> Anything else is gravy.
>>>
>>> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating Mozilla
>> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual patches
>> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application launcher
>> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
>> http://old-en.opensuse.org/**KDE/FirefoxIntegration<http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration>
>>
>> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to switch
>> to
>> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
>>
> <snip>
>
> This is getting off-topic, but Slackware 14.0 Linux was up to
> mozilla-firefox-21.0 when, to my surprise, the next security release went
> back down to 17.0.7esr. Here is an excerpt from the linux-security.comSlackware page as to the reason Slackware did so:
>
> Here are the details from the Slackware 14.0 ChangeLog:
> +--------------------------+
> patches/packages/mozilla-**firefox-17.0.7esr-i486-1_**slack14.0.txz:
> Upgraded.
> This release contains security fixes and improvements.
> For more information, see:
> http://www.mozilla.org/**security/known-**
> vulnerabilities/firefoxESR.**html<http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefoxESR.html>
> (* Security fix *)
> We had to switch to ESR here as well, as there's a problem running
> Firefox
> 22.0 on Slackware 14.0 under KDE (crash when oxygen-gtk2 is
> installed).
> Forcing people to uninstall oxygen-gtk2 isn't really an option for a
> security fix, and upgrading to the latest oxygen-gtk2 did not help.
> It's possible that future Firefox/Thunderbird security updates will
> always
> come from the ESR branch.
> +--------------------------+
>
> The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla Thunderbird
> going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
>
> More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using AOO.
> It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using LibreOffice with
> KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using the
> freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to have the same
> desktop file in their package. If not, well then maybe the subject is not
> so "hell bent".
> Hope this helps.
> Girvin Herr
>
>
We do! see other messages in this thread. And, the install guide has just
been modified to emphasize this!
We would love to hear your results with the newest version -- AOO 4.0.1 --
which we are voting on now and should be out VERY soon, with the
freedesktop-integration menus.
I think you'll be pleased! :)
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
-- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Girvin Herr <gi...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 09/23/2013 02:31 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
<snip>
>> There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
>> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
>> Widget Framework.
>>
>> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like to
>> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
>> Anything else is gravy.
>>
> This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating Mozilla
> Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual patches
> but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application launcher
> support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
> http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration
>
> If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to switch to
> the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
<snip>
This is getting off-topic, but Slackware 14.0 Linux was up to
mozilla-firefox-21.0 when, to my surprise, the next security release
went back down to 17.0.7esr. Here is an excerpt from the
linux-security.com Slackware page as to the reason Slackware did so:
Here are the details from the Slackware 14.0 ChangeLog:
+--------------------------+
patches/packages/mozilla-firefox-17.0.7esr-i486-1_slack14.0.txz: Upgraded.
This release contains security fixes and improvements.
For more information, see:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefoxESR.html
(* Security fix *)
We had to switch to ESR here as well, as there's a problem running Firefox
22.0 on Slackware 14.0 under KDE (crash when oxygen-gtk2 is installed).
Forcing people to uninstall oxygen-gtk2 isn't really an option for a
security fix, and upgrading to the latest oxygen-gtk2 did not help.
It's possible that future Firefox/Thunderbird security updates will always
come from the ESR branch.
+--------------------------+
The reference to "...as well..." refers to Slackware's Mozilla
Thunderbird going back to the 17.0.8 branch too.
More to the topic of AOO desktop integration, I am no longer using AOO.
It's a long story and way off topic. However, I am using LibreOffice
with KDE4 and it installs into the K-menu just fine. I am using the
freedesktop-menus desktop file. I would expect AOO to have the same
desktop file in their package. If not, well then maybe the subject is
not so "hell bent".
Hope this helps.
Girvin Herr
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> > >To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> > >Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > >> I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> message.
> > >> http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > >> I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you
> mean by
> > >> this comment --
> > >> "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > >> Could you elaborate?
> > >> What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > >As the OP on the comment...
> > >I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on
> SF.net[1].
> >
> >There is a package in there called
> "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there is no
> package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my comment was
> about.
> > >So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I
> do manually; nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it
> via KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
> >
> >Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without
> requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the name
> suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu user).
> > There used to be a KDE integration project at http://kde.openoffice.org
>
> Interesting...sadly it returns 404 now.
>
>
> >
> http://dot.kde.org/2003/12/12/openofficeorg-kde-integration-project-launched-today
> >
> >
> >
> There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
> "theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
> Widget Framework.
>
> I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like to
> have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
> Anything else is gravy.
>
This is a list of the 'efforts' done by OpenSuSE on integrating Mozilla
Firefox with KDE, unfortunately there are not links to the actual patches
but it does include, KDE File Dialog support, KDE Application launcher
support and other things (that you dont care) like icons and themes.
http://old-en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration
If there is a way to get to those patches, it would be trivial to switch to
the OpenOffice values since this is mainly KDE code, more than AOO.
>
> KDE-PIM/Akonadi/Strigi/Nepomuk integration would be nice, but again -
> that's gravy; right now we just need the basics.
>
I notice there was little to no integration with any KDE-PIM on that
table, which is a shame, althought Nepomuk track the files more than the
applications AFAIK.
>
> $0.02
>
> Ben
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>.
From: Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> >To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> >Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> >Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> >> I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this message.
> >> http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> >> I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean by
> >> this comment --
> >> "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> >> Could you elaborate?
> >> What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> >As the OP on the comment...
> >I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on SF.net[1].
>
>There is a package in there called
"openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there is no
package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my comment was
about.
> >So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I
do manually; nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it
via KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
>
>Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without
requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the name
suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu user).
> There used to be a KDE integration project at http://kde.openoffice.org
Interesting...sadly it returns 404 now.
> http://dot.kde.org/2003/12/12/openofficeorg-kde-integration-project-launched-today
>
>
>
There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
"theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
Widget Framework.
I honestly don't care if it integrates into the theming. I'd just like to have AOO on the K menu and the mime-types association.
Anything else is gravy.
KDE-PIM/Akonadi/Strigi/Nepomuk integration would be nice, but again - that's gravy; right now we just need the basics.
$0.02
Ben
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, BRM <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
> Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> message.
> > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean
> by
> > this comment --
> > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > Could you elaborate?
> > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>
>
> As the OP on the comment...
>
> I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on SF.net[1].
>
> There is a package in there called "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1],
> which is provided by AOO; there is no package "openoffice-kde-integration"
> - which is what my comment was about.
> So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually; nor do I
> have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via KRunner and an
> explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
>
> Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without requiring
> GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the name suggests
> requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu user).
>
There used to be a KDE integration project at http://kde.openoffice.org
http://dot.kde.org/2003/12/12/openofficeorg-kde-integration-project-launched-today
There used to be many ideas, but most of the integration became a
"theme-only" where the Oxygen skin will get selected under the Native
Widget Framework.
>
>
> If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right direction. And
> of course I'll be happy to help with testing of any KDE integration.
>
>
> Ben
>
>
> [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
> [2]
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice-gnome-integration/
> [3]/opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by BRM <bm...@yahoo.com>.
From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
To: "users@openoffice.apache.org" <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:49 PM
Subject: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
> I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this message.
> http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean by
> this comment --
> "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> Could you elaborate?
> What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
As the OP on the comment...
I installed AOO from the unofficial Debian Ports tree hosted on SF.net[1].
There is a package in there called "openoffice-gnome-integration"[1], which is provided by AOO; there is no package "openoffice-kde-integration" - which is what my comment was about.
So I have no mime-type integration aside from what I do manually; nor do I have it on any menus in KDE4, so I have to run it via KRunner and an explicit path to the soffice binaries[3].
Now, if openoffice-gnome-integration will do the above without requiring GNOME to be installed, great - I haven't tried it as the name suggests requiring GNOME which I don't have installed (Kubuntu user).
If I'm missing something, then please point me in the right direction. And of course I'll be happy to help with testing of any KDE integration.
Ben
[1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
[2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice-gnome-integration/
[3]/opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On 9/22/13, Greg Madden <go...@gci.net> wrote:
> On Sunday 22 September 2013 08:53:10 you wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
>> > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
>> > distro. Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very
>> > integrated with LO.
>> >
>> > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
>>
>> Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
>>
>> > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an
>> > option for Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
>>
>> I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO
>> 4.0.1 at this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details
>> until I can figure out more what the problem could be.
>>
>> I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
>> specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use
>> of those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation
>> needed -- a topic for the "dev" list.
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
>> > > this message.
>> > >
>> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
>> > >
>> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
>> > > you mean
>> >
>> > by
>> >
>> > > this comment --
>> > >
>> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
>> > >
>> > > Could you elaborate?
>> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>
> Kay Schenk, I follow the AOO dev list see your posts.
>
> Not sure what constitutes integration/support for AOO & LO. I use
> Trinity desktop, the continuation of KDE 3.5.x branch. The lead dev
> there has provided some kind of support for LO, mostly due to lack of
> resources to do more and AOO is not in distros.
>
> Are you aware of this code?
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-May/031676.html
AFAIK this is a mime-type submittion for MS Word files in the TDE.
http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde/diff/
http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde/tree/.gitmodules
Looking at KDE4 this would be something along the lines of here:
https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/master/show/kwin
>
>
> --
> Peace,
>
> Greg
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Greg Madden <go...@gci.net> wrote:
> On Sunday 22 September 2013 08:53:10 you wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
> > > distro. Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very
> > > integrated with LO.
> > >
> > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
> >
> > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
> >
> > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an
> > > option for Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
> >
> > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO
> > 4.0.1 at this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details
> > until I can figure out more what the problem could be.
> >
> > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
> > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use
> > of those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation
> > needed -- a topic for the "dev" list.
> >
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
> > > > this message.
> > > >
> > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > >
> > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
> > > > you mean
> > >
> > > by
> > >
> > > > this comment --
> > > >
> > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > >
> > > > Could you elaborate?
> > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>
> Kay Schenk, I follow the AOO dev list see your posts.
>
> Not sure what constitutes integration/support for AOO & LO.
In the larger scheme of things -- integration for Linux is perhaps not
quite there. Right now we have good integration with mime-types for KDE (at
least 4.x) with the freedesktop-menu installation.
The concern I was originally asking about had to do with "recognized"
default mailer, and this is NOT automatically detected for Linux.
I use
> Trinity desktop, the continuation of KDE 3.5.x branch. The lead dev
> there has provided some kind of support for LO, mostly due to lack of
> resources to do more and AOO is not in distros.
>
> Are you aware of this code?
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-May/031676.html
No, I am not. Nor had I even heard of Trinity before this.
>
>
>
> --
> Peace,
>
> Greg
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Greg Madden <go...@gci.net>.
On Sunday 22 September 2013 08:53:10 you wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
wrote:
> > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
> > distro. Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very
> > integrated with LO.
> >
> > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
>
> Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
>
> > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an
> > option for Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
>
> I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO
> 4.0.1 at this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details
> until I can figure out more what the problem could be.
>
> I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
> specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use
> of those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation
> needed -- a topic for the "dev" list.
>
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across
> > > this message.
> > >
> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > >
> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what
> > > you mean
> >
> > by
> >
> > > this comment --
> > >
> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate?
> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
Kay Schenk, I follow the AOO dev list see your posts.
Not sure what constitutes integration/support for AOO & LO. I use
Trinity desktop, the continuation of KDE 3.5.x branch. The lead dev
there has provided some kind of support for LO, mostly due to lack of
resources to do more and AOO is not in distros.
Are you aware of this code?
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-May/031676.html
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
>> distro.
>> > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
>> >
>> > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
>> >
>>
>> Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
>>
>
> Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on
> Linux. Users need to do it manually.
>
> http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option
>> for
>> > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at
>> this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can
>> figure out more what the problem could be.
>>
>
> There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for
> KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is
> dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to
> integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the
> Lightning project.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29
>
> Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive
> under the KDE layer.
>
Here are two examples of integration from KDE into Mozilla, one for
KWallet replacing Mozilla internal master password, and the other is for
Plasmoid notifications system.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/kde-wallet-password-integratio/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/plasmanotify/
Looking at the code of plasmoid, it looks like they catch the calls and
re-route them to kdialog's notification system.
http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3122278
A good testcase is to use Calligra and review how integrated is with the
rest of the desktop.
>
>
>
>>
>> I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
>> specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of
>> those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a
>> topic for the "dev" list.
>>
>
> Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual
> name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev,
> but more on the Desktop environment level.
>
> I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal
> with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM
> specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF
> (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as
> expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has
> phonon to deal with media.
>
> KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an
> internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively.
> https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
>> > > message.
>> > >
>> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
>> > >
>> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you
>> mean
>> > by
>> > > this comment --
>> > >
>> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
>> > >
>> > > Could you elaborate?
>> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > MzK
>> > >
>> > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>> > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>> > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alexandro Colorado
>> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>> > http://www.openoffice.org
>> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
> > distro.
> > > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
> > >
> > > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
> > >
> >
> > Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
> >
>
> Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on Linux.
> Users need to do it manually.
>
>
> http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option
> > for
> > > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1
> at
> > this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can
> > figure out more what the problem could be.
> >
>
> There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for
> KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is
> dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to
> integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the
> Lightning project.
>
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29
>
> Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive
> under the KDE layer.
>
>
>
> >
> > I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
> > specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of
> > those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed --
> a
> > topic for the "dev" list.
> >
>
> Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual
> name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev,
> but more on the Desktop environment level.
>
> I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal
> with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM
> specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF
> (Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as
> expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has
> phonon to deal with media.
>
> KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an
> internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively.
> https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail
>
> A lot of useful information here. Oddly, now using AOO 4.0.1, RC3, and
> configuring my e-mail manually, all is good. With the previous RC2 version,
> I got into some dialog boxes that seemed to want to do some configuration,
> but only got partially through that. Odd. And, it didn't work. But, today,
> all is well. OK, I will look into this when I have a moment.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > > >
> > > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you
> mean
> > > by
> > > > this comment --
> > > >
> > > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > > >
> > > > Could you elaborate?
> > > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > MzK
> > > >
> > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > http://www.openoffice.org
> > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
-- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
>
> > I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the
> distro.
> > Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
> >
> > Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
> >
>
> Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
>
Just like we do automatically for Windows, but offer no solution on Linux.
Users need to do it manually.
http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/images/Download_2_4_1_html_5bc7f92d.png
>
>
> >
> > AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option
> for
> > Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
> >
>
>
> I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at
> this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can
> figure out more what the problem could be.
>
There is also Akonadi which is the underlining resource manager for
KDE-PIM. Not sure to what degree of integration with KMail "services" is
dependable of it. I know in the past Sun people worked with Mozilla to
integrate some of the Calendar/Mail services with OpenOffice under the
Lightning project.
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/#Calendar_and_Email_Client_.28Mozilla_Thunderbird_and_Lightning.29
Evolution is practically death, but both Kolab/Akonadi are very well alive
under the KDE layer.
>
> I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
> specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of
> those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a
> topic for the "dev" list.
>
Gnome use gconf for their setting rules (API), I don't know the actual
name for KDE but I know there is one. This is a few layers above DBus/uDev,
but more on the Desktop environment level.
I also think that we need to take efforts to make OpenOffice finally deal
with media (for embedded objects). Sun never wanted to depend on DM
specific media frameworks like gstreamer, and preffered a very obsolete JMF
(Java Media Framework) which quite honestly never really worked as
expected. Freedesktop have some frameworks like Telepathy, and KDE has
phonon to deal with media.
KDE deals greatly with OpenDocuments (not really AOO but helps) having an
internal rendering libraries for all things OpenDocuments natively.
https://kenai.com/projects/kde-odf-thumbnail
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> > > message.
> > >
> > > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> > >
> > > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean
> > by
> > > this comment --
> > >
> > > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate?
> > > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > MzK
> > >
> > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://www.openoffice.org
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the distro.
> Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
>
> Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
>
Well, Ok, but you can change these default mime types.
>
> AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option for
> Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
>
I'm having some issues myself configuring e-mail to work with AOO 4.0.1 at
this point. I use KDE but have never used Kmail. No details until I can
figure out more what the problem could be.
I know both GNOME and KDE now make use of the freedesktop.org xdg
specifications. Maybe the internal e-mail handler in AOO can make use of
those interfaces. At any rate, more research and investigation needed -- a
topic for the "dev" list.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> > message.
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
> >
> > I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean
> by
> > this comment --
> >
> > "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
> >
> > Could you elaborate?
> > What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
-- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
Re: linux remarks in: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
I also use KDE, however, most of the integration has to do with the distro.
Since distros dont ship AOO, the options are very integrated with LO.
Dolphin/Konqueror default the *.odt to LO.
AOO also integrates with Thunderbird but doesn't really show an option for
Kmail. Or their latest Kolab, OwnCloud system.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was cruising through the users list yesterday and came across this
> message.
>
> http://markmail.org/message/tl2jof3b5inpnedj
>
> I, too am a Linux/KDE users of 11 years, but I'm not sure what you mean by
> this comment --
>
> "I use KDE; AOO only provides integration for GNOME. "
>
> Could you elaborate?
> What AOO desktop-integration bits do you install?
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614