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Posted to dev@jspwiki.apache.org by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> on 2013/06/02 15:14:07 UTC
Missing updates to language files...
Hi team, JSPWiki tests are failing
(https://builds.apache.org/job/JSPWiki/126/console, search on
"SiteGeneratorTest") because of a very small amount of translation
updates needed in Mandarin, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese, Italian,
French, Finnish, and German--I guess I should (1) remove the superfulous
translations (those in the foreign language but not in the main English
file) reported and (2) create a GitHub "GIST" (web page of sorts)
listing what we're missing (or should they be separate JIRAs or?--not
everyone has a JIRA account though) and (3) make appeals via Twitter for
people knowledgeable in any of those seven languages to provide
translations?
Re: Missing updates to language files...
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
regarding the en translation module, I'll open a jira in a minute: I'm not
having too much time this week, I'd also like to look into the auth
regression pointed out a few days ago, and the changes needed to avoid
duplicating the default translation module are easy enough, so anyone
willing to attach a patch (O:-)) will have an easy shot here.
br,
juan pablo
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll go ahead and tweet for help--it's easier to get it when you have just
> a few translation sentences missing than waiting until it becomes a major
> undertaking. Besides, it might introduce some new people to our project.
>
> We may wish to pull out Finnish, as Janne is inactive and Finns are so
> rare, but who knows, maybe a good tweet or two can lure a translator in.
> Problem is with Finnish, the language is so distant from anything else
> that if we get a practical jokester giving us bogus translations we might
> not be able to detect it--although maybe Google Translate can catch any
> severe mistranslations. I'd like us to just stick with major languages
> that have a large pool of people available to translate for us, and minor
> languages only when we have a current committer willing to maintain it for
> us.
>
> The folder structure you're describing i18n with submodules underneath it
> sounds good, but again, I really dislike having that separate -en
> translation which is just a copy of the default translation module, and
> hope you have the time sometime to construct JSPWiki so it is no longer
> necessary. Maybe I can figure it out...
>
> Thanks,
> Glen
>
>
>
>
> On 06/02/2013 10:43 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> that build failed b/c of UndefinedPagesPluginTest#**testCount; right now
>> don't know if the Jenkins node that launched the build was having stale
>> data (probably from prior ant builds) mangling the build, or just that
>> test
>> depending on execution order. I've just wiped out the workspace so the
>> next
>> build should run fine.. if I'm not mistaken, that is.
>>
>> As for SiteGeneratorTest, it uses o.a.w.TranslationsCheck, which was an
>> utility class to check for missing resources inside Eclipse.
>> SiteGeneratorTest is another utility class to update some pages of the
>> site
>> (i.e.: http://incubator.apache.org/**jspwiki/development/**
>> translations.html<http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/development/translations.html>
>> )
>> and, as it expects some directory structure outside the build, it doesn't
>> make any asserts, just outputs a lot of noise.
>>
>> As for the incomplete translations, right now they're almost complete
>> (more
>> or less 3 to 10 entries missing per language out of ~800), so I'd prefer
>> to
>> leave them in svn, at least until they're far more incomplete, let's say
>> below 90%? What we should do, appart from the appeal, is to move them to a
>> specific module (jspwiki-i18n-de, jspwiki-i18n-en, and so on under
>> jspwiki-i18n), WDYT?
>>
>>
>> br,
>> juan pablo
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If we want to wait for all these languages to get complete again, that
>>> can
>>> take a long time. They are broken for a long time already.
>>> Only English, Spanish and Dutch is properly maintained, but we could do
>>> an
>>> appeal (on twitter) of course.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 June 2013 15:14, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi team, JSPWiki tests are failing (https://builds.apache.org/**
>>>> job/JSPWiki/126/console<
>>>>
>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/**JSPWiki/126/console<https://builds.apache.org/job/JSPWiki/126/console>
>>> >,
>>>
>>>> search on "SiteGeneratorTest") because of a very small amount of
>>>> translation updates needed in Mandarin, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese,
>>>> Italian, French, Finnish, and German--I guess I should (1) remove the
>>>> superfulous translations (those in the foreign language but not in the
>>>>
>>> main
>>>
>>>> English file) reported and (2) create a GitHub "GIST" (web page of
>>>> sorts)
>>>> listing what we're missing (or should they be separate JIRAs or?--not
>>>> everyone has a JIRA account though) and (3) make appeals via Twitter for
>>>> people knowledgeable in any of those seven languages to provide
>>>> translations?
>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Missing updates to language files...
Posted by Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com>.
I'll go ahead and tweet for help--it's easier to get it when you have
just a few translation sentences missing than waiting until it becomes a
major undertaking. Besides, it might introduce some new people to our
project.
We may wish to pull out Finnish, as Janne is inactive and Finns are so
rare, but who knows, maybe a good tweet or two can lure a translator
in. Problem is with Finnish, the language is so distant from anything
else that if we get a practical jokester giving us bogus translations we
might not be able to detect it--although maybe Google Translate can
catch any severe mistranslations. I'd like us to just stick with major
languages that have a large pool of people available to translate for
us, and minor languages only when we have a current committer willing to
maintain it for us.
The folder structure you're describing i18n with submodules underneath
it sounds good, but again, I really dislike having that separate -en
translation which is just a copy of the default translation module, and
hope you have the time sometime to construct JSPWiki so it is no longer
necessary. Maybe I can figure it out...
Thanks,
Glen
On 06/02/2013 10:43 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> that build failed b/c of UndefinedPagesPluginTest#testCount; right now
> don't know if the Jenkins node that launched the build was having stale
> data (probably from prior ant builds) mangling the build, or just that test
> depending on execution order. I've just wiped out the workspace so the next
> build should run fine.. if I'm not mistaken, that is.
>
> As for SiteGeneratorTest, it uses o.a.w.TranslationsCheck, which was an
> utility class to check for missing resources inside Eclipse.
> SiteGeneratorTest is another utility class to update some pages of the site
> (i.e.: http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/development/translations.html)
> and, as it expects some directory structure outside the build, it doesn't
> make any asserts, just outputs a lot of noise.
>
> As for the incomplete translations, right now they're almost complete (more
> or less 3 to 10 entries missing per language out of ~800), so I'd prefer to
> leave them in svn, at least until they're far more incomplete, let's say
> below 90%? What we should do, appart from the appeal, is to move them to a
> specific module (jspwiki-i18n-de, jspwiki-i18n-en, and so on under
> jspwiki-i18n), WDYT?
>
>
> br,
> juan pablo
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If we want to wait for all these languages to get complete again, that can
>> take a long time. They are broken for a long time already.
>> Only English, Spanish and Dutch is properly maintained, but we could do an
>> appeal (on twitter) of course.
>>
>> regards,
>> Harry
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2013 15:14, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi team, JSPWiki tests are failing (https://builds.apache.org/**
>>> job/JSPWiki/126/console<
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/JSPWiki/126/console>,
>>> search on "SiteGeneratorTest") because of a very small amount of
>>> translation updates needed in Mandarin, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese,
>>> Italian, French, Finnish, and German--I guess I should (1) remove the
>>> superfulous translations (those in the foreign language but not in the
>> main
>>> English file) reported and (2) create a GitHub "GIST" (web page of sorts)
>>> listing what we're missing (or should they be separate JIRAs or?--not
>>> everyone has a JIRA account though) and (3) make appeals via Twitter for
>>> people knowledgeable in any of those seven languages to provide
>>> translations?
>>>
Re: Missing updates to language files...
Posted by Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
that build failed b/c of UndefinedPagesPluginTest#testCount; right now
don't know if the Jenkins node that launched the build was having stale
data (probably from prior ant builds) mangling the build, or just that test
depending on execution order. I've just wiped out the workspace so the next
build should run fine.. if I'm not mistaken, that is.
As for SiteGeneratorTest, it uses o.a.w.TranslationsCheck, which was an
utility class to check for missing resources inside Eclipse.
SiteGeneratorTest is another utility class to update some pages of the site
(i.e.: http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/development/translations.html)
and, as it expects some directory structure outside the build, it doesn't
make any asserts, just outputs a lot of noise.
As for the incomplete translations, right now they're almost complete (more
or less 3 to 10 entries missing per language out of ~800), so I'd prefer to
leave them in svn, at least until they're far more incomplete, let's say
below 90%? What we should do, appart from the appeal, is to move them to a
specific module (jspwiki-i18n-de, jspwiki-i18n-en, and so on under
jspwiki-i18n), WDYT?
br,
juan pablo
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If we want to wait for all these languages to get complete again, that can
> take a long time. They are broken for a long time already.
> Only English, Spanish and Dutch is properly maintained, but we could do an
> appeal (on twitter) of course.
>
> regards,
> Harry
>
>
>
> On 2 June 2013 15:14, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi team, JSPWiki tests are failing (https://builds.apache.org/**
> > job/JSPWiki/126/console<
> https://builds.apache.org/job/JSPWiki/126/console>,
> > search on "SiteGeneratorTest") because of a very small amount of
> > translation updates needed in Mandarin, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese,
> > Italian, French, Finnish, and German--I guess I should (1) remove the
> > superfulous translations (those in the foreign language but not in the
> main
> > English file) reported and (2) create a GitHub "GIST" (web page of sorts)
> > listing what we're missing (or should they be separate JIRAs or?--not
> > everyone has a JIRA account though) and (3) make appeals via Twitter for
> > people knowledgeable in any of those seven languages to provide
> > translations?
> >
>
Re: Missing updates to language files...
Posted by Harry Metske <ha...@gmail.com>.
If we want to wait for all these languages to get complete again, that can
take a long time. They are broken for a long time already.
Only English, Spanish and Dutch is properly maintained, but we could do an
appeal (on twitter) of course.
regards,
Harry
On 2 June 2013 15:14, Glen Mazza <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi team, JSPWiki tests are failing (https://builds.apache.org/**
> job/JSPWiki/126/console<https://builds.apache.org/job/JSPWiki/126/console>,
> search on "SiteGeneratorTest") because of a very small amount of
> translation updates needed in Mandarin, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese,
> Italian, French, Finnish, and German--I guess I should (1) remove the
> superfulous translations (those in the foreign language but not in the main
> English file) reported and (2) create a GitHub "GIST" (web page of sorts)
> listing what we're missing (or should they be separate JIRAs or?--not
> everyone has a JIRA account though) and (3) make appeals via Twitter for
> people knowledgeable in any of those seven languages to provide
> translations?
>