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Posted to user@commons.apache.org by Christian Oloff <ch...@web.de> on 2007/08/29 21:27:39 UTC
Links in tutorial leading to error 404
Dear All,
while trying to learn more about jelly I ran into the following issue:
Many of the links on http://commons.apache.org/jelly/tutorial.html lead
to a 404 File not Found error. An example is the 'demo script' link in
section JellySwing, 4th paragraph:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
It is redirected to
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
which reports the 404 error.
Could someone please fix it and / or could someone tell me how I can
access the demo stuff in order to learn the basics about jelly? Or are
there any other resources I can use?
Any help appreciated!
Best regards,
Chris
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Re: [jelly] Re: Links in tutorial leading to error 404
Posted by Christian Oloff <ch...@web.de>.
Paul, Simon,
thanks for your explanations. This helps me in finding my way further.
If I run into any other issues concerning jelly, I'll post again here.
Consider this issue closed for the time being ;-)
Best regards,
Christian
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
> Christian,
>
> (please note the subject box-mark so that it can be filtered faster)
>
> indeed, jelly's site maintenance is lagging behind.
> Basically, this is due to two things which current jelly developers
> could not face yet for lack of time:
> - there has been an attempt to make the tag-doc better using ant which
> makes a deeper site revision necessary (see, e.g.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-272)
> - building the website of jelly takes an enormous time because of
> building each tag-lib website... maybe that's fixed since maven-1.1,
> not sure
>
> And all this is overdue since the move of commons to TLP (a month or
> two ago).
>
> the source reference you are looking for is:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/jelly/trunk/jelly-tags/swing/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/swing/example.jelly?view=markup
>
>
> maybe that gives you a hint how to fix manually other errors until we
> find some time.
>
> As Simon points out, jelly development is not alive. Current
> developers still love it and there still is a strong potential of
> applications (to my surprise, after 4 years, this is still much valid)
> but it hasn't been able to mature to 1.0 yet.
>
> Maybe a radical move would be to simplify the whole thing... that
> might ease it all. Not sure.
>
> paul
>
>
> Le 29 août 07 à 21:27, Christian Oloff a écrit :
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> while trying to learn more about jelly I ran into the following issue:
>>
>> Many of the links on http://commons.apache.org/jelly/tutorial.html
>> lead to a 404 File not Found error. An example is the 'demo script'
>> link in section JellySwing, 4th paragraph:
>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>>
>> It is redirected to
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>> which reports the 404 error.
>>
>> Could someone please fix it and / or could someone tell me how I can
>> access the demo stuff in order to learn the basics about jelly? Or
>> are there any other resources I can use?
>>
>> Any help appreciated!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Chris
>>
>>
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[jelly] Re: Links in tutorial leading to error 404
Posted by Paul Libbrecht <pa...@activemath.org>.
Christian,
(please note the subject box-mark so that it can be filtered faster)
indeed, jelly's site maintenance is lagging behind.
Basically, this is due to two things which current jelly developers
could not face yet for lack of time:
- there has been an attempt to make the tag-doc better using ant
which makes a deeper site revision necessary (see, e.g. https://
issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-272)
- building the website of jelly takes an enormous time because of
building each tag-lib website... maybe that's fixed since maven-1.1,
not sure
And all this is overdue since the move of commons to TLP (a month or
two ago).
the source reference you are looking for is:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/jelly/trunk/jelly-tags/
swing/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/swing/example.jelly?view=markup
maybe that gives you a hint how to fix manually other errors until we
find some time.
As Simon points out, jelly development is not alive. Current
developers still love it and there still is a strong potential of
applications (to my surprise, after 4 years, this is still much
valid) but it hasn't been able to mature to 1.0 yet.
Maybe a radical move would be to simplify the whole thing... that
might ease it all. Not sure.
paul
Le 29 août 07 à 21:27, Christian Oloff a écrit :
> Dear All,
>
> while trying to learn more about jelly I ran into the following issue:
>
> Many of the links on http://commons.apache.org/jelly/tutorial.html
> lead to a 404 File not Found error. An example is the 'demo script'
> link in section JellySwing, 4th paragraph: http://cvs.apache.org/
> viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/
> tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> It is redirected to http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta-commons/
> jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?
> rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup which reports the 404
> error.
>
> Could someone please fix it and / or could someone tell me how I
> can access the demo stuff in order to learn the basics about jelly?
> Or are there any other resources I can use?
>
> Any help appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
> Chris
>
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
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Re: Links in tutorial leading to error 404
Posted by simon <si...@chello.at>.
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 21:27 +0200, Christian Oloff wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> while trying to learn more about jelly I ran into the following issue:
>
> Many of the links on http://commons.apache.org/jelly/tutorial.html lead
> to a 404 File not Found error. An example is the 'demo script' link in
> section JellySwing, 4th paragraph:
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> It is redirected to
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta-commons/jelly/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/tags/swing/example.jelly?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> which reports the 404 error.
>
> Could someone please fix it and / or could someone tell me how I can
> access the demo stuff in order to learn the basics about jelly? Or are
> there any other resources I can use?
It's partly due to the recent move from jakarta.apache.org/commons to
commons.apache.org. However it also seems to me that the tutorial links
are rather out-of-sync with the code anyway..
You'll find all the jelly files at their new home here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jelly/
It looks like the tutorial refers to some older version of Jelly
though, as the swing/example.jelly file isn't exactly where your url is
looking for it. I found something that looks similar here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/jelly/trunk/jelly-tags/swing/src/test/org/apache/commons/jelly/swing/
Jelly seems to have fallen out of favour over the last few years; I've
hardly seen anyone talking about it on the user lists and not a lot of
action on the dev lists either so I wouldn't say the changes of the
tutorial getting fixed are high...
Regards,
Simon
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