Servlet 2.4 & JSP 2.0

[Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>]

Hi,

Just out of curiosity, how come Apache didn't vote in 

the jsp 2.0 Community Review Draft
  http://jcp.org/jsr/results/152-7-1.jsp
and the Java Servlet 2.4 Community Review Draft
  http://jcp.org/jsr/results/154-7-1.jsp



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Re: Servlet 2.4 & JSP 2.0

[Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>]

Danny Angus wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how come Apache didn't vote in 
> 
> the jsp 2.0 Community Review Draft
>   http://jcp.org/jsr/results/152-7-1.jsp
> and the Java Servlet 2.4 Community Review Draft
>   http://jcp.org/jsr/results/154-7-1.jsp

It's only an assumption, but wouldn't this be because Sun hasn't yet met 
the terms of its LOI so publicly declared during JavaOne?

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-agreement.html

You have to read the comments coming with the votes in this perspective:

On 14-Jun-2002, IBM voted YES with the following comment:
IBM's vote is based on the technical merits of this JSR and is not a 
vote on the licensing terms.  IBM supports licensing models that create 
an open and level playing field by allowing third parties to create 
independent implementations of Java Specifications and that do not allow 
individuals or companies to exercise unneccessary control for 
proprietary advantage.  We support open source as a licensing model for 
contributions in the JCP, and would hope others will support this direction.

Basically, IBM has been almost the only company actually caring about 
this situation and has been posting similar comments for the past 
months. (No, I don't work for IBM ;-)

What surprises me is that Caldera has never been supporting this 
situation. Oh well, I never understood why they are part of the JCP 
anyhow ;-)

Open Source & Sun??? Naaah....

</Steven>

ps: these are assumptions of course, I guess it's up to Jason to inform 
us on the real story.


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Re: Servlet 2.4 & JSP 2.0

[Jon Scott Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

on 6/19/02 6:07 AM, "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just out of curiosity, how come Apache didn't vote in
> 
> the jsp 2.0 Community Review Draft
> http://jcp.org/jsr/results/152-7-1.jsp
> and the Java Servlet 2.4 Community Review Draft
> http://jcp.org/jsr/results/154-7-1.jsp

I think that we are still trying to figure out what to vote. ;-)

Personally, I think the servlet api has turned into a big mess because web
application specific features and EJB stuff don't belong in this API (they
should go into a web app api). Of course my opinion on that is ignored
because the big players like BEA and IBM get whatever they want.

Bah. I'm tired of fighting these battles....

-jon


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