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Posted to dev@openwhisk.apache.org by Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> on 2019/05/29 19:05:37 UTC
[REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Dear Whiskers,
As a community we have been discussing the possibility of graduation for quite some time. In the wake of the last legal hurdle being cleared (i.e., IBM completed transfer of all trademarks and name registrations to the ASF board) and in anticipation of a VOTE thread, I have created a page on our CWiki for drafting 2 artifacts we would need to present to the board as part of the process, that is the graduated project Charter (simple, straightforward) and the Resolution (which references the charter/project scope) to become a Top-Level-Project (TLP).
I am asking you all, as you did for the Maturity model review, to please help develop/review/comment on these items as well:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=115526932
Note that some background and links that describe the process and artifacts are included on the page as well.
FYI, I brought this up as a topic on the agenda of today's Tech. Int. call if you want my unedited "take" on the process and these items: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxxTLBC1QD8
Thanks for your help!
-Matt
Re: [REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:05 PM Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I am asking you all, as you did for the Maturity model review, to please help develop/review/comment on these items as well:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=115526932 ...
I have removed the "establish bylaws" paragraph, that shouldn't be
included anymore, and also linked to a more recent example resolution
(NetBeans) than the ones that were there.
The rationale is that projects are encouraged to create community
guidelines, but the standard ASF bylaws should be sufficient.
-Bertrand
Re: [REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 7:56 PM Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Please check out the charter...
For the ${DESCRIPTION-AND-SCOPE} I think this is sufficient:
"a platform for building Serverless applications with Functions"
That statement is mostly meant to identify what the project is about,
but it's not about defining a precise charter.
It's good IMO to keep this broad in the Board resolution, to avoid
having to change it if the project starts doing new things.
-Bertrand
Re: [REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
I'd suggest to avoid boxing ourselves in by an overly specific project
mission. Anything that helps clarify the general field this project
encompasses without being too specific about underlying technology.
You can be more specific on the website, but it's not a great idea to
get too formal in the legal documents without understanding their
ramifications. :)
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 01:28, Rodric Rabbah <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I tweaked the wording a little Matt wrt faas/serverless.
>
> > should we say anything about supporting Cloud Native (i.e., 12-factors
> implied, portable to any Container framework)?
>
> this is a good idea. "serverless" is still new and foreign to people
> outside the serverless bubble.
>
> -r
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:56 PM Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 2019/05/29 19:05:37, Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Dear Whiskers,
> > >
> > > As a community we have been discussing the possibility of graduation for
> > quite some time. In the wake of the last legal hurdle being cleared (i.e.,
> > IBM completed transfer of all trademarks and name registrations to the ASF
> > board) and in anticipation of a VOTE thread, I have created a page on our
> > CWiki for drafting 2 artifacts we would need to present to the board as
> > part of the process, that is the graduated project Charter (simple,
> > straightforward) and the Resolution (which references the charter/project
> > scope) to become a Top-Level-Project (TLP).
> > >
> > > I am asking you all, as you did for the Maturity model review, to please
> > help develop/review/comment on these items as well:
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=115526932
> > >
> > > Note that some background and links that describe the process and
> > artifacts are included on the page as well.
> > >
> > > FYI, I brought this up as a topic on the agenda of today's Tech. Int.
> > call if you want my unedited "take" on the process and these items:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxxTLBC1QD8
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help!
> > > -Matt
> > >
> >
> > Please check out the charter (simple sentence derived from our CWiki tag
> > line) on proposal page and let me know if we should amend it in any way....
> > My Qs...
> >
> > do I need to say FaaS to qualify Serverless?
> > should we say anything about supporting Cloud Native (i.e., 12-factors
> > implied, portable to any Container framework)?
> >
--
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
Re: [REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Posted by Rodric Rabbah <ro...@gmail.com>.
I tweaked the wording a little Matt wrt faas/serverless.
> should we say anything about supporting Cloud Native (i.e., 12-factors
implied, portable to any Container framework)?
this is a good idea. "serverless" is still new and foreign to people
outside the serverless bubble.
-r
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:56 PM Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 2019/05/29 19:05:37, Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Dear Whiskers,
> >
> > As a community we have been discussing the possibility of graduation for
> quite some time. In the wake of the last legal hurdle being cleared (i.e.,
> IBM completed transfer of all trademarks and name registrations to the ASF
> board) and in anticipation of a VOTE thread, I have created a page on our
> CWiki for drafting 2 artifacts we would need to present to the board as
> part of the process, that is the graduated project Charter (simple,
> straightforward) and the Resolution (which references the charter/project
> scope) to become a Top-Level-Project (TLP).
> >
> > I am asking you all, as you did for the Maturity model review, to please
> help develop/review/comment on these items as well:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=115526932
> >
> > Note that some background and links that describe the process and
> artifacts are included on the page as well.
> >
> > FYI, I brought this up as a topic on the agenda of today's Tech. Int.
> call if you want my unedited "take" on the process and these items:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxxTLBC1QD8
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> > -Matt
> >
>
> Please check out the charter (simple sentence derived from our CWiki tag
> line) on proposal page and let me know if we should amend it in any way....
> My Qs...
>
> do I need to say FaaS to qualify Serverless?
> should we say anything about supporting Cloud Native (i.e., 12-factors
> implied, portable to any Container framework)?
>
Re: [REVIEW] draft proposal for TLP project charter and ASF board resolution
Posted by Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org>.
On 2019/05/29 19:05:37, Matt Rutkowski <mr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear Whiskers,
>
> As a community we have been discussing the possibility of graduation for quite some time. In the wake of the last legal hurdle being cleared (i.e., IBM completed transfer of all trademarks and name registrations to the ASF board) and in anticipation of a VOTE thread, I have created a page on our CWiki for drafting 2 artifacts we would need to present to the board as part of the process, that is the graduated project Charter (simple, straightforward) and the Resolution (which references the charter/project scope) to become a Top-Level-Project (TLP).
>
> I am asking you all, as you did for the Maturity model review, to please help develop/review/comment on these items as well:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=115526932
>
> Note that some background and links that describe the process and artifacts are included on the page as well.
>
> FYI, I brought this up as a topic on the agenda of today's Tech. Int. call if you want my unedited "take" on the process and these items: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxxTLBC1QD8
>
> Thanks for your help!
> -Matt
>
Please check out the charter (simple sentence derived from our CWiki tag line) on proposal page and let me know if we should amend it in any way.... My Qs...
do I need to say FaaS to qualify Serverless?
should we say anything about supporting Cloud Native (i.e., 12-factors implied, portable to any Container framework)?