Proposal: moving ajp11

[co...@costin.dnt.ro]

Hi,

I know this will be painful, but I think we should simplify our life 
and deprecate/remove ajp11. 

We have ajp12 - with the same features and behavior, and I think with
comparable stability, and we also have JNI, ajp13 - probably less stable,
but with better performance. 

Right now we support ajp12 for 3 servers ( apache, nes, aolserver), and
mod_jk is actively developed. 

Please send your veto if you don't like this proposal.

Costin 

Re: where is slide?

["Craig R. McClanahan" <Cr...@eng.sun.com>]

It is now accessible via anonymous CVS and rsync, as described on the
Jakarta web site.  Check out package "jakarta-slide".

Craig McClanahan


mark@mjwilcox.com wrote:

> Hi,
> Is the Slide code (aka the Jakarta WebDAV side project)
> downloadable yet via FTP? CVS?
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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where is slide?

[ma...@mjwilcox.com]

Hi,
Is the Slide code (aka the Jakarta WebDAV side project) 
downloadable yet via FTP? CVS?

thanks,

Mark

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

["Craig R. McClanahan" <Cr...@eng.sun.com>]

costin@costin.dnt.ro wrote:

> > I'd feel better about it if you did a poll on TOMCAT-USER asking how many
> > people are using it (and then determining which of those couldn't just update
> > their configuration files to use ajp12 instead).  I suspect that TOMCAT-DEV's
> > audience does not necessarily represent the nature of all the people actually
> > using Tomcat.
>
> I'll do that, but I think we need to agree here first. We don't have to
> remove it  - just mark it "deprecated" and maybe move it to an
> "optional" area.
>

+1 on removing it ... let's just give people a little warning (plus a hint on how
to change their configs so this does not affect them when they upgrade later).

>
> Costin
>

Craig

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

[co...@costin.dnt.ro]

> I'd feel better about it if you did a poll on TOMCAT-USER asking how many
> people are using it (and then determining which of those couldn't just update
> their configuration files to use ajp12 instead).  I suspect that TOMCAT-DEV's
> audience does not necessarily represent the nature of all the people actually
> using Tomcat.

I'll do that, but I think we need to agree here first. We don't have to
remove it  - just mark it "deprecated" and maybe move it to an
"optional" area. 

Costin

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

["Craig R. McClanahan" <Cr...@eng.sun.com>]

costin@costin.dnt.ro wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know this will be painful, but I think we should simplify our life
> and deprecate/remove ajp11.
>

I'd feel better about it if you did a poll on TOMCAT-USER asking how many
people are using it (and then determining which of those couldn't just update
their configuration files to use ajp12 instead).  I suspect that TOMCAT-DEV's
audience does not necessarily represent the nature of all the people actually
using Tomcat.

>
> Costin
>

Craig McClanahan

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

[ed...@apache.org]

On Tue, 23 May 2000 costin@costin.dnt.ro wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know this will be painful, but I think we should simplify our life 
> and deprecate/remove ajp11. 
> 
> We have ajp12 - with the same features and behavior, and I think with
> comparable stability, and we also have JNI, ajp13 - probably less stable,
> but with better performance. 
> 
> Right now we support ajp12 for 3 servers ( apache, nes, aolserver), and
> mod_jk is actively developed. 

+1

ed

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

[co...@costin.dnt.ro]

> 
> What would the ramifications of this be?  Just writing support for IIS,
> etc?

Ajp11 works only with apache/jserv. 

Ajp12 works with all servers ( jserv and mod_jk ), it's faster and have
comparable stability ( it's a bit "newer", but was used a lot by many
people).  I don't think too many people are using ajp11, and if they do
it'll be easy to change. That will make possible a transition to mod_jk
and bidirectional protocols.

Costin

Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

[Kurt Schrader <ks...@engin.umich.edu>]

What would the ramifications of this be?  Just writing support for IIS,
etc?

On Tue, 23 May 2000 costin@costin.dnt.ro wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know this will be painful, but I think we should simplify our life 
> and deprecate/remove ajp11. 
> 
> We have ajp12 - with the same features and behavior, and I think with
> comparable stability, and we also have JNI, ajp13 - probably less stable,
> but with better performance. 
> 
> Right now we support ajp12 for 3 servers ( apache, nes, aolserver), and
> mod_jk is actively developed. 
> 
> Please send your veto if you don't like this proposal.
> 
> Costin 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Proposal: moving ajp11

[Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

on 5/23/2000 11:45 AM, costin@costin.dnt.ro at costin@costin.dnt.ro wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know this will be painful, but I think we should simplify our life
> and deprecate/remove ajp11.

+1

-jon