More Clients

[Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>]

Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation Radu
wrote earlier:
https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo

Did that work at the time?

Thanks,
Werner

Re: More Clients

[Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>]

Well I asked especially because the enum-driven approach you had at least
for DeviceType feels quite similar to Volkan's project he wrote for that
hackathon.

Essentially many of the types and ideas in
https://github.com/vy/what-is-my-user-agent/tree/master/src/main/java/com/vlkan/whatismyuseragent/devicemap
feel like a modernized but fairly similar approach to what the DeviceMap
DDR Builders do (and I trust neither of you 2 guys would get mad or turn
into "Hulk" just because I mentioned that;-D)

I'll follow up on the other thread especially with regards to Volkan's
suggestion for a user id, but what I can see there looks fairly promising.
Only runs in Java SE 8 btw. another thing e.g. Tamaya discusses. And for
future clients that may break with the existing 1.x data structure,
supporting only Java SE 8 (Lambdas,...) could be an option, too. Those who
need to use Java 6/7 would still safely find the 1.x branch for that, but
of course if both community demand and our resources permit we can still
support 2 JVM generations (as long as it didn't cause another "Religious"
feud;-O)

Werner

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If it works, adjusting that How-To or Readme (as it happened in other
> places) couldn't hurt.
> And while it is of course not the only area with a "drought" of real-life
> examples, supporting not just other languages, but some popular UI and MVC
> frameworks could not hurt either. Some languages especially PHP, a "low
> level" support of DM or other solutions would barely be accepted, as fellow
> speakers at these events (e.g. Dutch PHP where I spoke earlier, we
> considered it this year, but it would overlap with DWX I recall) confirmed.
> So if you want to support PHP properly you need to support WordPress, Typo3
> or Joomla rather than the "low level" language. In a sense with Plain
> Servlets and Spring (the two only Web options we offer directly at
> DeviceMap so far) it is not so different, but there are several others, JSF
> just to name one and several other Apache ones like Struts, Shale,
> Tapestry, Wicket or Sling, etc.
>
> Werner
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> That README is almost 2 years old when we didn't use to bundle the w3c
>> JARs
>> in our repo like we do now [0].
>>
>> I did consider creating a tighter DeviceMap integration but haven't really
>> gotten into it since the DM code was flaky and based on a lot of regex
>> evaluation.
>>
>> [0] - http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/devicemap/trunk/devicemap/java/lib/
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:26 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The Readme said to install the W3C.jar into local maven before running
>> it,
>> > was that guideline outdated then?
>> >
>> > And either way, if it worked against 1.x data, did you ever add it to
>> Sling
>> > or would you consider doing so to DeviceMap demos?
>> > (or via a sync similar to Browsermap, it's structure is unusual, but it
>> > seems to work both ways;-)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Werner
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Werner,
>> > >
>> > > That's not a W3C compliant implementation - it's just an Apache Sling
>> > > integration of the DeviceMap code we had 2 years ago.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Radu
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:13 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation
>> > Radu
>> > > > wrote earlier:
>> > > > https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo
>> > > >
>> > > > Did that work at the time?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Werner
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: More Clients

[Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>]

If it works, adjusting that How-To or Readme (as it happened in other
places) couldn't hurt.
And while it is of course not the only area with a "drought" of real-life
examples, supporting not just other languages, but some popular UI and MVC
frameworks could not hurt either. Some languages especially PHP, a "low
level" support of DM or other solutions would barely be accepted, as fellow
speakers at these events (e.g. Dutch PHP where I spoke earlier, we
considered it this year, but it would overlap with DWX I recall) confirmed.
So if you want to support PHP properly you need to support WordPress, Typo3
or Joomla rather than the "low level" language. In a sense with Plain
Servlets and Spring (the two only Web options we offer directly at
DeviceMap so far) it is not so different, but there are several others, JSF
just to name one and several other Apache ones like Struts, Shale,
Tapestry, Wicket or Sling, etc.

Werner

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:

> That README is almost 2 years old when we didn't use to bundle the w3c JARs
> in our repo like we do now [0].
>
> I did consider creating a tighter DeviceMap integration but haven't really
> gotten into it since the DM code was flaky and based on a lot of regex
> evaluation.
>
> [0] - http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/devicemap/trunk/devicemap/java/lib/
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:26 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Readme said to install the W3C.jar into local maven before running
> it,
> > was that guideline outdated then?
> >
> > And either way, if it worked against 1.x data, did you ever add it to
> Sling
> > or would you consider doing so to DeviceMap demos?
> > (or via a sync similar to Browsermap, it's structure is unusual, but it
> > seems to work both ways;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Werner
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Werner,
> > >
> > > That's not a W3C compliant implementation - it's just an Apache Sling
> > > integration of the DeviceMap code we had 2 years ago.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Radu
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:13 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation
> > Radu
> > > > wrote earlier:
> > > > https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo
> > > >
> > > > Did that work at the time?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Werner
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: More Clients

[Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org>]

That README is almost 2 years old when we didn't use to bundle the w3c JARs
in our repo like we do now [0].

I did consider creating a tighter DeviceMap integration but haven't really
gotten into it since the DM code was flaky and based on a lot of regex
evaluation.

[0] - http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/devicemap/trunk/devicemap/java/lib/

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:26 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Readme said to install the W3C.jar into local maven before running it,
> was that guideline outdated then?
>
> And either way, if it worked against 1.x data, did you ever add it to Sling
> or would you consider doing so to DeviceMap demos?
> (or via a sync similar to Browsermap, it's structure is unusual, but it
> seems to work both ways;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Werner
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Werner,
> >
> > That's not a W3C compliant implementation - it's just an Apache Sling
> > integration of the DeviceMap code we had 2 years ago.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Radu
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:13 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation
> Radu
> > > wrote earlier:
> > > https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo
> > >
> > > Did that work at the time?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Werner
> > >
> >
>

Re: More Clients

[Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>]

The Readme said to install the W3C.jar into local maven before running it,
was that guideline outdated then?

And either way, if it worked against 1.x data, did you ever add it to Sling
or would you consider doing so to DeviceMap demos?
(or via a sync similar to Browsermap, it's structure is unusual, but it
seems to work both ways;-)

Cheers,
Werner

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Werner,
>
> That's not a W3C compliant implementation - it's just an Apache Sling
> integration of the DeviceMap code we had 2 years ago.
>
> Cheers,
> Radu
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:13 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation Radu
> > wrote earlier:
> > https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo
> >
> > Did that work at the time?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Werner
> >
>

Re: More Clients

[Radu Cotescu <ra...@apache.org>]

Hi Werner,

That's not a W3C compliant implementation - it's just an Apache Sling
integration of the DeviceMap code we had 2 years ago.

Cheers,
Radu

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 16:13 Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Aside from a Ruby port there's another W3C compliant implementation Radu
> wrote earlier:
> https://github.com/raducotescu/devicemap-demo
>
> Did that work at the time?
>
> Thanks,
> Werner
>