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servlet 3.1, etc?
Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
I'm talking about new servlet, JSP, EL, etc, specs, not about
non-web-tier stuff that's not even part of Tomcat.
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Jess Holle
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Edoardo Panfili <ed...@aspix.it>.
Il 10/07/13 17:09, Nick Williams ha scritto:
>
> On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
>
>> Il 10/07/13 12:18, Mark Thomas ha scritto:
>>> On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>>>>> Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
>>>>> moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
>>> Tomcat 8.
>>>
>>> Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
>>> we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
>>>
>>> Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
>>>
>>
>> very good news for me! thank you!
>> I will try to build Tomcat from trunk.
>>
>> It makes sense if I try it with JDK8 milestones? (I'd like to use java8 in my application but is not essential)
>>
>> thank you again
>> Edoardo
>
> My testing on Tomcat 8 has been exclusively on Java 8. It has been working very well (minus the incomplete EL 3.0 implementation, of course). If you have a need for Java 8, I encourage you to test Tomcat 8 on Java 8. It will help the Tomcat developers because you may find Tomcat bugs that exist on Java 8 but not on Java 7.
>
thank you again, I am starting downloads!
Edoardo
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Nick Williams <ni...@nicholaswilliams.net>.
On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Edoardo Panfili wrote:
> Il 10/07/13 12:18, Mark Thomas ha scritto:
>> On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>>> >Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
>>> >moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
>> Tomcat 8.
>>
>> Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
>> we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
>>
>> Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
>>
>
> very good news for me! thank you!
> I will try to build Tomcat from trunk.
>
> It makes sense if I try it with JDK8 milestones? (I'd like to use java8 in my application but is not essential)
>
> thank you again
> Edoardo
My testing on Tomcat 8 has been exclusively on Java 8. It has been working very well (minus the incomplete EL 3.0 implementation, of course). If you have a need for Java 8, I encourage you to test Tomcat 8 on Java 8. It will help the Tomcat developers because you may find Tomcat bugs that exist on Java 8 but not on Java 7.
Nick
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Edoardo Panfili <ed...@aspix.it>.
Il 10/07/13 12:18, Mark Thomas ha scritto:
> On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>> >Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
>> >moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
> Tomcat 8.
>
> Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
> we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
>
> Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
>
very good news for me! thank you!
I will try to build Tomcat from trunk.
It makes sense if I try it with JDK8 milestones? (I'd like to use java8
in my application but is not essential)
thank you again
Edoardo
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Pierre Goupil <go...@gmail.com>.
That's good news to hear, men!
Thanks for the hard work.
Regards,
Pierre
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Jess Holle <je...@ptc.com> wrote:
> Thanks!
>
>
> On 7/10/2013 5:18 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>> On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
>>> moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
>>>
>> Tomcat 8.
>>
>> Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
>> we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
>>
>> Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
>>
>> I'm talking about new servlet, JSP, EL, etc, specs, not about
>>> non-web-tier stuff that's not even part of Tomcat.
>>>
>> Servlet 3.1
>> Implementation complete. The HTTP upgrade code is very well tested as it
>> is used as the basic for WebSockets. The other areas are less well tested.
>>
>> JSP 2.3 has minimal changes from 2.2 - mainly small changes due to
>> changes in EL. It isn't complete but could be within a day or so of the
>> EL being complete.
>>
>> EL 3.0. The API changes have been completed. The current focus is adding
>> unit tests for the new API elements. Once the unit tests for the API are
>> complete, work will start on the new syntax. This is where the bulk of
>> the work remains for Tomcat 8.
>>
>> WebSocket 1.0
>> Implementation complete. Both client and server code pass the Autobahn
>> testsuite. There are folks stress testing this implementation at the
>> moment and that has highlighted a few implementation (and spec) issues.
>> Those issues should be resolved (although I haven't looked at the dev
>> list yet this morning...)
>>
>> So overall, I think progress looks pretty good. Folks that want to try
>> out these new features can build Tomcat 8 from trunk (it really is very
>> easy - ask here if you need some pointers). Snapshot releases are
>> available for those folks that want to help with testing but can't /
>> don't want to build Tomcat for themselves. Details on the dev list.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> .
>>
>>
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Jess Holle <je...@ptc.com>.
Thanks!
On 7/10/2013 5:18 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>> Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
>> moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
> Tomcat 8.
>
> Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
> we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
>
> Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
>
>> I'm talking about new servlet, JSP, EL, etc, specs, not about
>> non-web-tier stuff that's not even part of Tomcat.
> Servlet 3.1
> Implementation complete. The HTTP upgrade code is very well tested as it
> is used as the basic for WebSockets. The other areas are less well tested.
>
> JSP 2.3 has minimal changes from 2.2 - mainly small changes due to
> changes in EL. It isn't complete but could be within a day or so of the
> EL being complete.
>
> EL 3.0. The API changes have been completed. The current focus is adding
> unit tests for the new API elements. Once the unit tests for the API are
> complete, work will start on the new syntax. This is where the bulk of
> the work remains for Tomcat 8.
>
> WebSocket 1.0
> Implementation complete. Both client and server code pass the Autobahn
> testsuite. There are folks stress testing this implementation at the
> moment and that has highlighted a few implementation (and spec) issues.
> Those issues should be resolved (although I haven't looked at the dev
> list yet this morning...)
>
> So overall, I think progress looks pretty good. Folks that want to try
> out these new features can build Tomcat 8 from trunk (it really is very
> easy - ask here if you need some pointers). Snapshot releases are
> available for those folks that want to help with testing but can't /
> don't want to build Tomcat for themselves. Details on the dev list.
>
> Mark
>
> .
>
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Re: servlet 3.1, etc?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 10/07/2013 00:06, Jess Holle wrote:
> Is there an ETA (in terms of both a version and rough date) for Tomcat
> moving to the new spec versions introduced by Java EE 7?
Tomcat 8.
Implementation complete? Best guess is a couple of months. The more help
we get with the EL 3.0 implementation, the sooner we'll finish.
Stable? Best guess is late this year / early next.
> I'm talking about new servlet, JSP, EL, etc, specs, not about
> non-web-tier stuff that's not even part of Tomcat.
Servlet 3.1
Implementation complete. The HTTP upgrade code is very well tested as it
is used as the basic for WebSockets. The other areas are less well tested.
JSP 2.3 has minimal changes from 2.2 - mainly small changes due to
changes in EL. It isn't complete but could be within a day or so of the
EL being complete.
EL 3.0. The API changes have been completed. The current focus is adding
unit tests for the new API elements. Once the unit tests for the API are
complete, work will start on the new syntax. This is where the bulk of
the work remains for Tomcat 8.
WebSocket 1.0
Implementation complete. Both client and server code pass the Autobahn
testsuite. There are folks stress testing this implementation at the
moment and that has highlighted a few implementation (and spec) issues.
Those issues should be resolved (although I haven't looked at the dev
list yet this morning...)
So overall, I think progress looks pretty good. Folks that want to try
out these new features can build Tomcat 8 from trunk (it really is very
easy - ask here if you need some pointers). Snapshot releases are
available for those folks that want to help with testing but can't /
don't want to build Tomcat for themselves. Details on the dev list.
Mark
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