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RE: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable
building all modules together
Dims,
I don't think there is a stream of -1s. This is an issue on which, unfortunately, I disagree fundamnetally from a technical perspective, with the percieved majority view. It will be hypocritical of me to +1, if I don't agree with it.
However, I am happy to go with the majority view, if that is what the community wants.
Ta
Meeraj
________________________________
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 3/28/2007 11:24 PM
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Jim, Meeraj,
If the stream of -1's contnue, am afraid there isn't going to be a
single release at all.
thx,
dims
On 3/28/07, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
>
> > Here's the vote on this I said [1] I'd start to get closure on this
> > issue.
> >
> > The proposal is to have top-level pom for the Java SCA project that
> > enables
> > building all the modules together - kernel, services, runtimes,
> > extensions
> > etc, and for that to work all those modules need to use the same
> > version
> > name.
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > ...ant
> >
> > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/
> > msg16024.html
>
>
>
> There has been no proposal for how to resolve the issue about
> building extensions using multiple versions of kernel and how modules
> on different release schedules requiring different levels of kernel
> or plugins will be handled.
>
> Until we can come up with a solution for these issues, I feel I have
> to vote against the proposal.
>
> -1
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Jeremy,
I started another DISCUSS thread to "keep talking", you still need to
let everyone know what you think of this VOTE.
thanks,
dims
On 3/29/07, Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeremy,
> >
> > Here is a problem that most of us are facing with the Trunk and is
> > hindering
> > us to effectively contribute to the trunk. I see there is one
> > solution that
> > has been proposed to making this simpler with some compromises. If
> > this is
> > not agreeable what is the alternative for those of us who are
> > waiting for a
> > solution to this. Whats the simple way for any of us - including
> > somebody
> > getting in afresh - to quickly jump in and start contributing
> > without having
> > to worry about the build intricacies. Should we consider Bert's
> > suggestion?
>
> At the moment, this is a straight up/down binary vote on a fairly
> vague proposal, one that some people have specific technical concerns
> over. There are other proposals out there but we seem to have lost
> sight of that. IMO, yes, we should consider Bert's proposal, and mine
> for assemblies, and anything else anyone can think of that is less
> divisive.
>
> > Theres been may a time when you have helped us out of various
> > technical
> > difficulties. Here is yet another time I request for help from you
> > for a
> > way out of this.
>
> Thanks. My suggestion is, keep talking. The important thing here is
> about seeing if we can work together to reach consensus. What the
> technical outcome is really doesn't matter.
>
> --
> Jeremy
>
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Jim,
I started another DISCUSS thread to "look at these", you still need to
let everyone know what you think of this VOTE.
thanks,
dims
On 3/29/07, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jeremy,
> >>
> >> Here is a problem that most of us are facing with the Trunk and is
> >> hindering
> >> us to effectively contribute to the trunk. I see there is one
> >> solution that
> >> has been proposed to making this simpler with some compromises.
> >> If this is
> >> not agreeable what is the alternative for those of us who are
> >> waiting for a
> >> solution to this. Whats the simple way for any of us - including
> >> somebody
> >> getting in afresh - to quickly jump in and start contributing
> >> without having
> >> to worry about the build intricacies. Should we consider Bert's
> >> suggestion?
> >
> > At the moment, this is a straight up/down binary vote on a fairly
> > vague proposal, one that some people have specific technical
> > concerns over. There are other proposals out there but we seem to
> > have lost sight of that. IMO, yes, we should consider Bert's
> > proposal, and mine for assemblies, and anything else anyone can
> > think of that is less divisive.
> >
> I'd prefer we look at these as well.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> Here is a problem that most of us are facing with the Trunk and is
>> hindering
>> us to effectively contribute to the trunk. I see there is one
>> solution that
>> has been proposed to making this simpler with some compromises.
>> If this is
>> not agreeable what is the alternative for those of us who are
>> waiting for a
>> solution to this. Whats the simple way for any of us - including
>> somebody
>> getting in afresh - to quickly jump in and start contributing
>> without having
>> to worry about the build intricacies. Should we consider Bert's
>> suggestion?
>
> At the moment, this is a straight up/down binary vote on a fairly
> vague proposal, one that some people have specific technical
> concerns over. There are other proposals out there but we seem to
> have lost sight of that. IMO, yes, we should consider Bert's
> proposal, and mine for assemblies, and anything else anyone can
> think of that is less divisive.
>
I'd prefer we look at these as well.
Jim
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.
On Mar 28, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Venkata Krishnan wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Here is a problem that most of us are facing with the Trunk and is
> hindering
> us to effectively contribute to the trunk. I see there is one
> solution that
> has been proposed to making this simpler with some compromises. If
> this is
> not agreeable what is the alternative for those of us who are
> waiting for a
> solution to this. Whats the simple way for any of us - including
> somebody
> getting in afresh - to quickly jump in and start contributing
> without having
> to worry about the build intricacies. Should we consider Bert's
> suggestion?
At the moment, this is a straight up/down binary vote on a fairly
vague proposal, one that some people have specific technical concerns
over. There are other proposals out there but we seem to have lost
sight of that. IMO, yes, we should consider Bert's proposal, and mine
for assemblies, and anything else anyone can think of that is less
divisive.
> Theres been may a time when you have helped us out of various
> technical
> difficulties. Here is yet another time I request for help from you
> for a
> way out of this.
Thanks. My suggestion is, keep talking. The important thing here is
about seeing if we can work together to reach consensus. What the
technical outcome is really doesn't matter.
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Venkata Krishnan <fo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jeremy,
Here is a problem that most of us are facing with the Trunk and is hindering
us to effectively contribute to the trunk. I see there is one solution that
has been proposed to making this simpler with some compromises. If this is
not agreeable what is the alternative for those of us who are waiting for a
solution to this. Whats the simple way for any of us - including somebody
getting in afresh - to quickly jump in and start contributing without having
to worry about the build intricacies. Should we consider Bert's suggestion?
Theres been may a time when you have helped us out of various technical
difficulties. Here is yet another time I request for help from you for a
way out of this.
Thanks
- Venkat
On 3/29/07, Meeraj Kunnumpurath <M....@voca.com> wrote:
>
> Dims,
>
> Sorry, I can't speak on behalf of Jim or Jeremy.
>
> As for me, this is only the second time I have voted -1, the other one
> being the one on interfaced based models, which has been withdrawn since
> then. On this particular vote, I am ok to go with -0, it was a
> misunderstaning on my part on how voting worked. I thought, the rule was
> there should be more +1s than -1s and at least three +1s.
>
> As Jim mentioned in one of the previous emails, there is a fundamental
> difference that has been evolving between two groups of people, in terms of
> what technical direction we should take. There have been laudable efforts
> from both sides (especially from the likes of Raymond, Sebastien, Simon, Jim
> and Jeremy) to reconcile the differences and move on. However, the plain
> fact is that those diffeerences have not been resolved yet and I am not sure
> whether they would, given they are quite fundamental.
>
> On your point on projects being thrown out of the incubator, I wouldn't
> want that to happen to Tuscany. Lot of people have put in a lot of effort on
> this. I am willing to keep the discussions going. At the end of the day, if
> I personally can't resolve the technical differences, I would maintain my
> dignity and step out of the way and let the community carry on. However,
> that would be a last resort for me, I would continue to work with the guys
> here and try to reconcile the differences.
>
> On your point on the "Be Nice" vote, I have been thinking hard on the
> actual motivation of that vote. I don't think anyone has been disrespectful
> to anyone on the list so far. We have had our differences, and we have tried
> to discuss them as grown up individuals. Hence, I didn't really understand
> the purpose of that vote.
>
> Ta
> Meeraj
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 3/29/2007 5:09 AM
> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable
> building all modules together
>
>
>
> Meeraj,
>
> well go over the archives and count how many times you, jim and jeremy
> have -1'ed something. The correct vote for "I am happy to go with the
> majority view, if that is what the community wants." is -0 *NOT* -1.
> When you do a -1 you are supposed to work hard to come up with a
> refined proposal that takes in your viewpoint or help come up with a
> proposal that evertone can rally around. I see no effort in consensus
> building in any of the threads i reviewed after a -1. This is an open
> source project, you can have the best goddamn architecture in the
> whole wide world. If there is no community to back the work. It will
> get thrown out of the incubator. Sorry, that's the way Apache works.
> Incubator is not only for legal purposes but also to help build
> communities. This is not the way an open source project should work.
> Forget about incubator projects, we have closed Top level project
> (example Avalon) too because everyone was at cross purposes and no one
> was cooperating with any one else. Yes, a few of the people who
> started the fracas did say exactly what you said.."I disagree
> fundamnetally from a technical perspective". See this email and check
> if it is the same situation you all are in.
>
> Finally did the three of you VOTE in the "Be Nice" thread? That just
> tells me a lot of things.
>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> [1]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/avalon-dev/200211.mbox/%3c1036700736.1740.40.camel@lsd.bdv51%3e
>
> On 3/28/07, Meeraj Kunnumpurath <M....@voca.com> wrote:
> > Dims,
> >
> > I don't think there is a stream of -1s. This is an issue on which,
> unfortunately, I disagree fundamnetally from a technical perspective, with
> the percieved majority view. It will be hypocritical of me to +1, if I don't
> agree with it.
> >
> > However, I am happy to go with the majority view, if that is what the
> community wants.
> >
> > Ta
> > Meeraj
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wed 3/28/2007 11:24 PM
> > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and
> enable building all modules together
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim, Meeraj,
> >
> > If the stream of -1's contnue, am afraid there isn't going to be a
> > single release at all.
> >
> > thx,
> > dims
> >
> > On 3/28/07, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's the vote on this I said [1] I'd start to get closure on this
> > > > issue.
> > > >
> > > > The proposal is to have top-level pom for the Java SCA project that
> > > > enables
> > > > building all the modules together - kernel, services, runtimes,
> > > > extensions
> > > > etc, and for that to work all those modules need to use the same
> > > > version
> > > > name.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my +1.
> > > >
> > > > ...ant
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/
> > > > msg16024.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There has been no proposal for how to resolve the issue about
> > > building extensions using multiple versions of kernel and how modules
> > > on different release schedules requiring different levels of kernel
> > > or plugins will be handled.
> > >
> > > Until we can come up with a solution for these issues, I feel I have
> > > to vote against the proposal.
> > >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
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RE: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Meeraj Kunnumpurath <M....@voca.com>.
Dims,
Sorry, I can't speak on behalf of Jim or Jeremy.
As for me, this is only the second time I have voted -1, the other one being the one on interfaced based models, which has been withdrawn since then. On this particular vote, I am ok to go with -0, it was a misunderstaning on my part on how voting worked. I thought, the rule was there should be more +1s than -1s and at least three +1s.
As Jim mentioned in one of the previous emails, there is a fundamental difference that has been evolving between two groups of people, in terms of what technical direction we should take. There have been laudable efforts from both sides (especially from the likes of Raymond, Sebastien, Simon, Jim and Jeremy) to reconcile the differences and move on. However, the plain fact is that those diffeerences have not been resolved yet and I am not sure whether they would, given they are quite fundamental.
On your point on projects being thrown out of the incubator, I wouldn't want that to happen to Tuscany. Lot of people have put in a lot of effort on this. I am willing to keep the discussions going. At the end of the day, if I personally can't resolve the technical differences, I would maintain my dignity and step out of the way and let the community carry on. However, that would be a last resort for me, I would continue to work with the guys here and try to reconcile the differences.
On your point on the "Be Nice" vote, I have been thinking hard on the actual motivation of that vote. I don't think anyone has been disrespectful to anyone on the list so far. We have had our differences, and we have tried to discuss them as grown up individuals. Hence, I didn't really understand the purpose of that vote.
Ta
Meeraj
________________________________
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 3/29/2007 5:09 AM
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Meeraj,
well go over the archives and count how many times you, jim and jeremy
have -1'ed something. The correct vote for "I am happy to go with the
majority view, if that is what the community wants." is -0 *NOT* -1.
When you do a -1 you are supposed to work hard to come up with a
refined proposal that takes in your viewpoint or help come up with a
proposal that evertone can rally around. I see no effort in consensus
building in any of the threads i reviewed after a -1. This is an open
source project, you can have the best goddamn architecture in the
whole wide world. If there is no community to back the work. It will
get thrown out of the incubator. Sorry, that's the way Apache works.
Incubator is not only for legal purposes but also to help build
communities. This is not the way an open source project should work.
Forget about incubator projects, we have closed Top level project
(example Avalon) too because everyone was at cross purposes and no one
was cooperating with any one else. Yes, a few of the people who
started the fracas did say exactly what you said.."I disagree
fundamnetally from a technical perspective". See this email and check
if it is the same situation you all are in.
Finally did the three of you VOTE in the "Be Nice" thread? That just
tells me a lot of things.
thanks,
dims
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/avalon-dev/200211.mbox/%3c1036700736.1740.40.camel@lsd.bdv51%3e
On 3/28/07, Meeraj Kunnumpurath <M....@voca.com> wrote:
> Dims,
>
> I don't think there is a stream of -1s. This is an issue on which, unfortunately, I disagree fundamnetally from a technical perspective, with the percieved majority view. It will be hypocritical of me to +1, if I don't agree with it.
>
> However, I am happy to go with the majority view, if that is what the community wants.
>
> Ta
> Meeraj
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 3/28/2007 11:24 PM
> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
>
>
>
> Jim, Meeraj,
>
> If the stream of -1's contnue, am afraid there isn't going to be a
> single release at all.
>
> thx,
> dims
>
> On 3/28/07, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
> >
> > > Here's the vote on this I said [1] I'd start to get closure on this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > The proposal is to have top-level pom for the Java SCA project that
> > > enables
> > > building all the modules together - kernel, services, runtimes,
> > > extensions
> > > etc, and for that to work all those modules need to use the same
> > > version
> > > name.
> > >
> > > Here's my +1.
> > >
> > > ...ant
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/
> > > msg16024.html
> >
> >
> >
> > There has been no proposal for how to resolve the issue about
> > building extensions using multiple versions of kernel and how modules
> > on different release schedules requiring different levels of kernel
> > or plugins will be handled.
> >
> > Until we can come up with a solution for these issues, I feel I have
> > to vote against the proposal.
> >
> > -1
> >
> > Jim
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Meeraj,
well go over the archives and count how many times you, jim and jeremy
have -1'ed something. The correct vote for "I am happy to go with the
majority view, if that is what the community wants." is -0 *NOT* -1.
When you do a -1 you are supposed to work hard to come up with a
refined proposal that takes in your viewpoint or help come up with a
proposal that evertone can rally around. I see no effort in consensus
building in any of the threads i reviewed after a -1. This is an open
source project, you can have the best goddamn architecture in the
whole wide world. If there is no community to back the work. It will
get thrown out of the incubator. Sorry, that's the way Apache works.
Incubator is not only for legal purposes but also to help build
communities. This is not the way an open source project should work.
Forget about incubator projects, we have closed Top level project
(example Avalon) too because everyone was at cross purposes and no one
was cooperating with any one else. Yes, a few of the people who
started the fracas did say exactly what you said.."I disagree
fundamnetally from a technical perspective". See this email and check
if it is the same situation you all are in.
Finally did the three of you VOTE in the "Be Nice" thread? That just
tells me a lot of things.
thanks,
dims
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/avalon-dev/200211.mbox/%3c1036700736.1740.40.camel@lsd.bdv51%3e
On 3/28/07, Meeraj Kunnumpurath <M....@voca.com> wrote:
> Dims,
>
> I don't think there is a stream of -1s. This is an issue on which, unfortunately, I disagree fundamnetally from a technical perspective, with the percieved majority view. It will be hypocritical of me to +1, if I don't agree with it.
>
> However, I am happy to go with the majority view, if that is what the community wants.
>
> Ta
> Meeraj
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:davanum@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 3/28/2007 11:24 PM
> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Use single version for all Java/SCA modules and enable building all modules together
>
>
>
> Jim, Meeraj,
>
> If the stream of -1's contnue, am afraid there isn't going to be a
> single release at all.
>
> thx,
> dims
>
> On 3/28/07, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:51 AM, ant elder wrote:
> >
> > > Here's the vote on this I said [1] I'd start to get closure on this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > The proposal is to have top-level pom for the Java SCA project that
> > > enables
> > > building all the modules together - kernel, services, runtimes,
> > > extensions
> > > etc, and for that to work all those modules need to use the same
> > > version
> > > name.
> > >
> > > Here's my +1.
> > >
> > > ...ant
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/
> > > msg16024.html
> >
> >
> >
> > There has been no proposal for how to resolve the issue about
> > building extensions using multiple versions of kernel and how modules
> > on different release schedules requiring different levels of kernel
> > or plugins will be handled.
> >
> > Until we can come up with a solution for these issues, I feel I have
> > to vote against the proposal.
> >
> > -1
> >
> > Jim
> >
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