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GIT

The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
ASF. Do we want to take the plunge?

Carl.

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Re: GIT

Posted by Andrew Stitcher <as...@redhat.com>.
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 21:56 +0000, Robbie Gemmell wrote:
> I would probably be quite happy just letting other projects play
> guinea pig initially. I know a lot of the existing committers
> (including me) already use git-svn and have done for years, which gets
> you many of the benefits whilst letting those who need/want to use SVN
> directly just keep doing so. Non committers are free to use the git
> mirrors either way.

I tend to agree with this.

I've also been using git-svn for years and find that there are only a
small number of times when I wish we were using git project wide.

Nearly all of the time I get most of the needed productivity from git
and am not hampered by having to ultimately push back to svn.

So I'm pretty happy carrying on in the same manner we're already
working.

Also note that if we went to using git we'd have to much more carefully
agree our branching and merging policy in the "repo of record".

Andrew



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Re: GIT

Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
I would probably be quite happy just letting other projects play
guinea pig initially. I know a lot of the existing committers
(including me) already use git-svn and have done for years, which gets
you many of the benefits whilst letting those who need/want to use SVN
directly just keep doing so. Non committers are free to use the git
mirrors either way.

Robbie

On 28 November 2011 20:37, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
> ASF. Do we want to take the plunge?
>
> Carl.
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Re: GIT

Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
I have been using git for years now with Qpid, by cloning off the git
mirror and then use git-svn going foward (as per
http://wiki.apache.org/general/GitAtApache). I dont really do enough
updates to care much about the performance difference I must admit,
just the local branching and commits. I know a bunch of the Qpid
developers already do this (all the ones I work near, probably more
than half in total?). I'm not sure I care much about the rest we would
get by going fully to git, certainly not enough to be the guinea pigs
:).

Robbie

On 28 November 2011 22:05, Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com> wrote:
> Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn
> update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want
> committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the full
> jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror while still
> being on SVN.  CXF does that
> (http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit) and
> maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.
>
> Glen
>
> On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>
>> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>>>
>>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>>> Subject: GIT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>>>
>>> ASF. Do
>>>>
>>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>>
>>>> Carl.
>>>>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Justin Ross <jr...@redhat.com>.
Sorry, Rajith.  Obviously, I agree!

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Justin Ross wrote:

> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll.  I know many people are 
> using git already.  If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we 
> should really consider making the transition.
>
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
>
>> As Robbie mentioned, most of the git fans are already using git-svn
>> (I'm one of them).
>> So we could perhaps wait for a bit to see how the trial unfolds.
>> My concern is, that not everybody may be ready to use git at this
>> point, so if we switch, then we will be disrupting the work for some
>> folks.
>> 
>> Rather than taking a vote, we could perhaps do a survey (anonymously
>> or otherwise)  among our committers to see what they feel about moving
>> to git exclusively.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rajith
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com> wrote:
>>> Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn
>>> update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want
>>> committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the 
>>> full
>>> jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror while still
>>> being on SVN.  CXF does that
>>> (http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit) 
>>> and
>>> maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.
>>> 
>>> Glen
>>> 
>>> On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>>>> 
>>>> Carl.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: GIT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>>>>> 
>>>>> ASF. Do
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carl.
>>>>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: GIT

Posted by Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com>.
On 11/28/2011 05:38 PM, Robbie Gemmell wrote:
> I would look closest at the ones that arent using it to see why they
> cant or dont want to, and base the decision largely on that. For the
> many already using it, do they care about the bits we dont currently
> get through lack of direct git write access?
>

The important thing we don't get (from using git-svn on an SVN repo) is useful 
merge information. All the git merge info gets tossed when you commit to SVN. 
You can merge your own private branches as you like but once they're public in 
SVN you're stuck.


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Re: GIT

Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
I would look closest at the ones that arent using it to see why they
cant or dont want to, and base the decision largely on that. For the
many already using it, do they care about the bits we dont currently
get through lack of direct git write access?

Robbie

On 28 November 2011 22:28, Justin Ross <jr...@redhat.com> wrote:
> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll.  I know many people are
> using git already.  If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we
> should really consider making the transition.
>
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
>
>> As Robbie mentioned, most of the git fans are already using git-svn
>> (I'm one of them).
>> So we could perhaps wait for a bit to see how the trial unfolds.
>> My concern is, that not everybody may be ready to use git at this
>> point, so if we switch, then we will be disrupting the work for some
>> folks.
>>
>> Rather than taking a vote, we could perhaps do a survey (anonymously
>> or otherwise)  among our committers to see what they feel about moving
>> to git exclusively.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rajith
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn
>>> update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want
>>> committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the
>>> full
>>> jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror while
>>> still
>>> being on SVN.  CXF does that
>>> (http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit)
>>> and
>>> maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>>>>
>>>> Carl.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: GIT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>>>>>
>>>>> ASF. Do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl.
>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: GIT

Posted by "Darryl L. Pierce" <dp...@redhat.com>.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 05:28:27PM -0500, Justin Ross wrote:
> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll.  I know many
> people are using git already.  If "many" accounts for most of our
> contributors, we should really consider making the transition.

+1 

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Re: GIT

Posted by Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com>.
On 11/30/2011 11:48 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote:
> Is there any sort of info available on the implications of the move... e.g.
> will we still easily be able to refer to the history for our current svn
> repo?
>

All the history will carry over into git. Even personal git repo's have the full 
history and IMO its easier and faster to work with the history in a git repo 
than in SVN.

> -- Rob
>
> On 30 November 2011 17:29, Carl Trieloff<cc...@redhat.com>  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> A pilot has been done already, this is a wider group, so I would look at
>> it as do we want to be in the second wave of projects to GIT, or wait it
>> out.
>>
>> from what I see infra has a solid handle on GIT from the projects that
>> have switched already
>>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2011 11:09 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote:
>>> So, I'm not a git user, though I dare say I could learn... but I must
>> admit
>>> that I'd prefer not to be part of the pilot group and wait for others to
>>> sort out any issues encountered before we consider moving across...
>>> therefore I'd personally be -1 for moving in the trial... but ok for
>> moving
>>> at a later point.
>>>
>>> -- Rob
>>>
>>> On 30 November 2011 16:37, Alan Conway<ac...@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/28/2011 05:28 PM, Justin Ross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll. I know many people
>>>>> are
>>>>> using git already. If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we
>>>>> should
>>>>> really consider making the transition.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> +1 for git
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Rob Godfrey <ro...@gmail.com>.
Is there any sort of info available on the implications of the move... e.g.
will we still easily be able to refer to the history for our current svn
repo?

-- Rob

On 30 November 2011 17:29, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> A pilot has been done already, this is a wider group, so I would look at
> it as do we want to be in the second wave of projects to GIT, or wait it
> out.
>
> from what I see infra has a solid handle on GIT from the projects that
> have switched already
>
> Carl.
>
>
> On 11/30/2011 11:09 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote:
> > So, I'm not a git user, though I dare say I could learn... but I must
> admit
> > that I'd prefer not to be part of the pilot group and wait for others to
> > sort out any issues encountered before we consider moving across...
> > therefore I'd personally be -1 for moving in the trial... but ok for
> moving
> > at a later point.
> >
> > -- Rob
> >
> > On 30 November 2011 16:37, Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/28/2011 05:28 PM, Justin Ross wrote:
> >>
> >>> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll. I know many people
> >>> are
> >>> using git already. If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we
> >>> should
> >>> really consider making the transition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> +1 for git
> >>
> >>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.


A pilot has been done already, this is a wider group, so I would look at
it as do we want to be in the second wave of projects to GIT, or wait it
out.

from what I see infra has a solid handle on GIT from the projects that
have switched already

Carl.


On 11/30/2011 11:09 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote:
> So, I'm not a git user, though I dare say I could learn... but I must admit
> that I'd prefer not to be part of the pilot group and wait for others to
> sort out any issues encountered before we consider moving across...
> therefore I'd personally be -1 for moving in the trial... but ok for moving
> at a later point.
>
> -- Rob
>
> On 30 November 2011 16:37, Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/28/2011 05:28 PM, Justin Ross wrote:
>>
>>> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll. I know many people
>>> are
>>> using git already. If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we
>>> should
>>> really consider making the transition.
>>>
>>>
>> +1 for git
>>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Rob Godfrey <ro...@gmail.com>.
So, I'm not a git user, though I dare say I could learn... but I must admit
that I'd prefer not to be part of the pilot group and wait for others to
sort out any issues encountered before we consider moving across...
therefore I'd personally be -1 for moving in the trial... but ok for moving
at a later point.

-- Rob

On 30 November 2011 16:37, Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/28/2011 05:28 PM, Justin Ross wrote:
>
>> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll. I know many people
>> are
>> using git already. If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we
>> should
>> really consider making the transition.
>>
>>
> +1 for git
>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Alan Conway <ac...@redhat.com>.
On 11/28/2011 05:28 PM, Justin Ross wrote:
> After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll. I know many people are
> using git already. If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, we should
> really consider making the transition.
>

+1 for git

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Re: GIT

Posted by Justin Ross <jr...@redhat.com>.
After some more discussion, let's take a straw poll.  I know many people 
are using git already.  If "many" accounts for most of our contributors, 
we should really consider making the transition.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Rajith Attapattu wrote:

> As Robbie mentioned, most of the git fans are already using git-svn
> (I'm one of them).
> So we could perhaps wait for a bit to see how the trial unfolds.
> My concern is, that not everybody may be ready to use git at this
> point, so if we switch, then we will be disrupting the work for some
> folks.
>
> Rather than taking a vote, we could perhaps do a survey (anonymously
> or otherwise)  among our committers to see what they feel about moving
> to git exclusively.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajith
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com> wrote:
>> Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn
>> update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want
>> committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the full
>> jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror while still
>> being on SVN.  CXF does that
>> (http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit) and
>> maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>>
>>> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>>>
>>> Carl.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: GIT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>>>>
>>>> ASF. Do
>>>>>
>>>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl.
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Rajith Attapattu <ra...@gmail.com>.
As Robbie mentioned, most of the git fans are already using git-svn
(I'm one of them).
So we could perhaps wait for a bit to see how the trial unfolds.
My concern is, that not everybody may be ready to use git at this
point, so if we switch, then we will be disrupting the work for some
folks.

Rather than taking a vote, we could perhaps do a survey (anonymously
or otherwise)  among our committers to see what they feel about moving
to git exclusively.

Regards,

Rajith

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com> wrote:
> Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn
> update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want
> committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the full
> jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror while still
> being on SVN.  CXF does that
> (http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit) and
> maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.
>
> Glen
>
> On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>
>> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>>>
>>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>>> Subject: GIT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>>>
>>> ASF. Do
>>>>
>>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>>
>>>> Carl.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> Project:      http://qpid.apache.org
>>>> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>>
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>
>
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>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Glen Mazza <gm...@talend.com>.
Working with both, I've found "git pull" to be *much* faster than "svn 
update".  It's also much easier to specify which changed files you want 
committed/posted.  That said, they're both good.  If you don't want the 
full jump to Git perhaps Qpid can practice with Apache's Git Mirror 
while still being on SVN.  CXF does that 
(http://cxf.apache.org/source-repository.html#SourceRepository-Usinggit) 
and maybe a third (?) of the CXF team uses it instead of SVN.

Glen

On 11/28/2011 04:39 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
>
> Carl.
>
>
> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
>> What benefit is there to using git?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>>> Subject: GIT
>>>
>>>
>>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
>> ASF. Do
>>> we want to take the plunge?
>>>
>>> Carl.
>>>
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-- 
Glen Mazza
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RE: GIT

Posted by Steve Huston <sh...@riverace.com>.
I'm of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" persuasion and I don't have
any problem with svn. In the beginning of my Qpid work before I had svn
access I used git and I was happy to be able to leave it behind - I just
never quite got the way it works maybe.

I'd rather not move exclusively to git. However, if those that do a lot
more branching and changes strongly want to, I'll go along.

-Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:40 PM
> To: Steve Huston
> Cc: dev@qpid.apache.org
> Subject: Re: GIT
> 
> 
> it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.
> 
> Carl.
> 
> 
> On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
> > What benefit is there to using git?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
> >> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
> >> Subject: GIT
> >>
> >>
> >> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
> > ASF. Do
> >> we want to take the plunge?
> >>
> >> Carl.
> >>
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Re: GIT

Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
it is a lot easier to merge features, and work with others on changes.

Carl.


On 11/28/2011 04:19 PM, Steve Huston wrote:
> What benefit is there to using git?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
>> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
>> Subject: GIT
>>
>>
>> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
> ASF. Do
>> we want to take the plunge?
>>
>> Carl.
>>
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RE: GIT

Posted by Steve Huston <sh...@riverace.com>.
What benefit is there to using git?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
> Subject: GIT
> 
> 
> The ASF board is expanding the use of GIT, in the trial group for the
ASF. Do
> we want to take the plunge?
> 
> Carl.
> 
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