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Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Hello
I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
Thanks
Inder
Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Exactly. The timers inside Java and the OS are not very accurate,
especially for small numbers. Unless you are doing something very
serious, the modules are probably going to take microseconds to run.
Therefore a statistical load driver test is much more effective than
individual timers.
Paul
On 6/7/07, David Illsley <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Inder,
> I'm not an expert but I think what the others are getting at is that
> you'll see much more repsesentative numbers if you time how long it
> takes to deal with some thousands of requests and divide by the number
> of requests. One way to approach this is to use one of the test client
> mentioned.
> Does that make any sense?
> David
>
> On 06/06/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > Thanks for all of your comments. But my question was that how can we measure
> > the time taken by axis2 engine to process both incoming and outgoing soap
> > messages. Actually am just running a simple example and have developed some
> > custom handlers and modules, so now I wanted to see how much delay it takes
> > during the invocation of those custom handlers.
> >
> > I'll really appreciate if someone can help me on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Inder
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:pzfreo@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:43 AM
> > To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
> > the request/reply SOAP messages
> >
> > Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
> > the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
> > multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
> > cunning about it.
> >
> > Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
> > Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
> > Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
> > Synapse.
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-al
> > pha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
> >
> > We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> > > http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Michele
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > > > http://wso2.org/library/91
> > > >
> > > > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the
> > time
> > > > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Inder
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
> >
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> >
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by David Illsley <da...@gmail.com>.
Inder,
I'm not an expert but I think what the others are getting at is that
you'll see much more repsesentative numbers if you time how long it
takes to deal with some thousands of requests and divide by the number
of requests. One way to approach this is to use one of the test client
mentioned.
Does that make any sense?
David
On 06/06/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Thanks for all of your comments. But my question was that how can we measure
> the time taken by axis2 engine to process both incoming and outgoing soap
> messages. Actually am just running a simple example and have developed some
> custom handlers and modules, so now I wanted to see how much delay it takes
> during the invocation of those custom handlers.
>
> I'll really appreciate if someone can help me on this.
>
> Thanks
> Inder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:pzfreo@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:43 AM
> To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
> the request/reply SOAP messages
>
> Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
> the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
> multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
> cunning about it.
>
> Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
> Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
> Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
> Synapse.
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-al
> pha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
>
> We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
>
> Paul
>
> On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> > http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
> >
> >
> > Michele
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > > http://wso2.org/library/91
> > >
> > > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the
> time
> > > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Inder
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: axis-user-help@ws.apache.org
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Paul Fremantle
> Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>
> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
> paul@wso2.com
>
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
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RE: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to
process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk>.
Inder,
since you already have your own modules it would be very easy to take
the timestamp of the incoming message and save it into the op. context
(not the message context, because the out message context differs!) and
take it again when the processing is finished (i.e. during the out
phase).
HTH,
Michele
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 16:54 -0300, Inder Dhillon wrote:
> Hello
>
> Thanks for all of your comments. But my question was that how can we measure
> the time taken by axis2 engine to process both incoming and outgoing soap
> messages. Actually am just running a simple example and have developed some
> custom handlers and modules, so now I wanted to see how much delay it takes
> during the invocation of those custom handlers.
>
> I'll really appreciate if someone can help me on this.
>
> Thanks
> Inder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:pzfreo@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:43 AM
> To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
> the request/reply SOAP messages
>
> Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
> the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
> multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
> cunning about it.
>
> Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
> Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
> Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
> Synapse.
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-al
> pha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
>
> We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
>
> Paul
>
> On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> > http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
> >
> >
> > Michele
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > > http://wso2.org/library/91
> > >
> > > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the
> time
> > > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Inder
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: axis-user-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
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> >
> >
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RE: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca>.
Hello
Thanks for all of your comments. But my question was that how can we measure
the time taken by axis2 engine to process both incoming and outgoing soap
messages. Actually am just running a simple example and have developed some
custom handlers and modules, so now I wanted to see how much delay it takes
during the invocation of those custom handlers.
I'll really appreciate if someone can help me on this.
Thanks
Inder
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:pzfreo@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:43 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
the request/reply SOAP messages
Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
cunning about it.
Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
Synapse.
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-al
pha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
Paul
On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
>
>
> Michele
>
> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > http://wso2.org/library/91
> >
> > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the
time
> > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Inder
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to
process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk>.
Paul,
the previous blog entry is related to this one (that's why he says "for
the fifth time this year...")
http://blog.covalent.net/roller/covalent/entry/20070308
where the server handles 16000 connections.
Michele
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 09:44 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> The CICS mainframe software that most banks and ATMs run on is
> based on a single thread and can scale to handling 10000s of clients!
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Aha
Reading the blog more closely, I see that AB really is doing something
cunning. The Java version is truly threaded so won't have the same
issues. That said, you can still be damn effective with a single
thread. The CICS mainframe software that most banks and ATMs run on is
based on a single thread and can scale to handling 10000s of clients!
Paul
On 6/6/07, Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
> the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
> multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
> cunning about it.
>
> Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
> Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
> Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
> Synapse. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-alpha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
>
> We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
>
> Paul
>
> On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> > http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
> >
> >
> > Michele
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > > http://wso2.org/library/91
> > >
> > > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
> > > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Inder
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Paul Fremantle
> Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>
> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
> paul@wso2.com
>
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>
--
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Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Interesting blog! Thanks for the pointer. I'm not sure I understand
the comment about single threading. Certainly AB allows you to send
multiple simultaneous requests. If its singlethreaded then its pretty
cunning about it.
Anyway, part of the HTTPCore project in Apache has a multi-threaded
Java version of AB. This also supports chunking and HTTP1.1 keepalive.
Unfortunately there isn't a build yet, but we've used it to test
Synapse. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/httpcomponents/httpcore/tags/4.0-alpha4/contrib/src/main/java/org/apache/http/contrib/benchmark/
We will take a look at hosting a build on wso2.org.
Paul
On 6/6/07, Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
>
>
> Michele
>
> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> > http://wso2.org/library/91
> >
> > We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
> > > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Inder
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to
process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Michele Mazzucco <Mi...@ncl.ac.uk>.
Paul,
maybe ab is not the best tool to use...
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/sdo/archive/2007/03/ab_considered_h.html
Michele
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:47 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
> http://wso2.org/library/91
>
> We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
>
> Paul
>
> On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
> > taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Inder
>
>
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
We did some benchmarking of Axis2 here
http://wso2.org/library/91
We used ab which is part of the Apache HTTPD project.
Paul
On 6/6/07, Inder Dhillon <dh...@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
> taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Inder
--
Paul Fremantle
Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
paul@wso2.com
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Re: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by Charitha Kankanamge <ch...@wso2.com>.
Hi,
Apache Jmeter can also be used. Have a look at the following links.
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/component_reference.html#SOAP/XML-RPC_Request
http://wso2.org/library/1085
regards
Charitha
kumar.vinodh@wipro.com wrote:
> Hi,
> Have a look at SOAP UI tool. You can use it to test webservice.
> It has options to measure time taken to process the request.
> _________________________________________________
> Thanks & Regards,
> Vinodh
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Inder Dhillon [mailto:dhillon@cs.dal.ca]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:18 PM
> *To:* axis-user@ws.apache.org
> *Subject:* Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to
> process the request/reply SOAP messages
>
> Hello
>
> I’ll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the
> time taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
>
> Thanks
>
> Inder
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RE: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process the request/reply SOAP messages
Posted by ku...@wipro.com.
Hi,
Have a look at SOAP UI tool. You can use it to test webservice.
It has options to measure time taken to process the request.
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Thanks & Regards,
Vinodh
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From: Inder Dhillon [mailto:dhillon@cs.dal.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:18 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Axis2: How to measure the time taken by Axis2 engine to process
the request/reply SOAP messages
Hello
I'll really appreciate if someone can suggest me how to measure the time
taken by Axis2 engine to process the messages?
Thanks
Inder
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