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[Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Hi there,
I'm Helen, a Wiki admin. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Helen_russian
Since 5th Feb. MWiki is under a massive spam attack.
Please take a look: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete
, https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/block
Please help.
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 02/07/2014 12:45 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i<ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> jan i wrote:
>>>
>>>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
>>>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
>>>> here)
>>>> you will see my warning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
>>> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in the
>>> meantime.
>>>
>>> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
>>> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
>>> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE
>>> effective, not LESS effective!).
>>>
>>
>> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
>> was implemented by the word !
>>
>> The exact wording is:
>>
>> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
>> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead of
>> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
>> solution: drop it entirely. "
>>
>> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
>> more effective slips my mind.
>>
>> later the jira contains:
>>
>> "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki
>> compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in
>> the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API.
>> See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ "
>>
>> Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like that
>> above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki
>> (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). As
>> a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which are
>> active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just
>> looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises.
>>
>> At this point in time we have several choices:
>> 1) leave the config as it is
>> 2) reinstall cats
>> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
>>
>> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
>> happely implement another community decision.
>>
>
> I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too
> much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community
> decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there
> is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss.
>
> Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one
> area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is
> important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of
> those times.
Right, especially when there is already a solution that is working
(mostly resp. for the most people).
Thanks Jan.
Marcus
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Helen russian <he...@gmail.com>.
2014-02-07 6:22 GMT+06:00 jan i <ja...@apache.org>:
>
>
> The configuration is changed so that only sysops can create new accounts.
>
A lot of thank you, Jan! You are our savior.
For last 48 hours 3 wiki admins have deleted more than 1300 spam pages
and blocked more than 800 spammer accounts.
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
The JIRA is quoted but links or the JIRA ID would be helpful along with a link to the ML thread where the decision was made.
It is hard to review this incident without these helpful pointers.
Thanks,
Dave
On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:22 PM, jan i wrote:
> On 7 February 2014 00:45, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> jan i wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
>>>>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
>>>>> here)
>>>>> you will see my warning.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
>>>> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in
>> the
>>>> meantime.
>>>>
>>>> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
>>>> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
>>>> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE
>>>> effective, not LESS effective!).
>>>>
>>>
>>> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The
>> jira
>>> was implemented by the word !
>>>
>>> The exact wording is:
>>>
>>> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
>>> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead
>> of
>>> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 ->
>> Recommended
>>> solution: drop it entirely. "
>>>
>>> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
>>> more effective slips my mind.
>>>
>>> later the jira contains:
>>>
>>> "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki
>>> compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in
>>> the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API.
>>> See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ "
>>>
>>> Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like
>> that
>>> above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki
>>> (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release).
>> As
>>> a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which
>> are
>>> active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just
>>> looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises.
>>>
>>> At this point in time we have several choices:
>>> 1) leave the config as it is
>>> 2) reinstall cats
>>> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
>>>
>>> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
>>> happely implement another community decision.
>>>
>>
>> I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too
>> much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community
>> decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there
>> is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss.
>>
>
> Wiki have been upgraded, and respecting the jira I did not move the cat
> extension.
>
>
>> Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one
>> area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is
>> important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of
>> those times.
>>
>
> I happen to agree with you, and it has actually not been possible to create
> new accounts for a while now.
>
> The configuration is changed so that only sysops can create new accounts.
>
> Now to the other part....we have discussed these issues for quite a long
> time, so it was a fair assumption to accept the jira as the community wish.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan I.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andrea.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 7 February 2014 00:45, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> jan i wrote:
> >>
> >>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
> >>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
> >>> here)
> >>> you will see my warning.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
> >> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in
> the
> >> meantime.
> >>
> >> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
> >> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
> >> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE
> >> effective, not LESS effective!).
> >>
> >
> > May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The
> jira
> > was implemented by the word !
> >
> > The exact wording is:
> >
> > "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
> > doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead
> of
> > HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 ->
> Recommended
> > solution: drop it entirely. "
> >
> > That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
> > more effective slips my mind.
> >
> > later the jira contains:
> >
> > "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki
> > compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in
> > the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API.
> > See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ "
> >
> > Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like
> that
> > above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki
> > (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release).
> As
> > a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which
> are
> > active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just
> > looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises.
> >
> > At this point in time we have several choices:
> > 1) leave the config as it is
> > 2) reinstall cats
> > 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
> >
> > I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
> > happely implement another community decision.
> >
>
> I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too
> much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community
> decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there
> is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss.
>
Wiki have been upgraded, and respecting the jira I did not move the cat
extension.
> Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one
> area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is
> important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of
> those times.
>
I happen to agree with you, and it has actually not been possible to create
new accounts for a while now.
The configuration is changed so that only sysops can create new accounts.
Now to the other part....we have discussed these issues for quite a long
time, so it was a fair assumption to accept the jira as the community wish.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrea.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> jan i wrote:
>>
>>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
>>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
>>> here)
>>> you will see my warning.
>>>
>>
>> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
>> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in the
>> meantime.
>>
>> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
>> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
>> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE
>> effective, not LESS effective!).
>>
>
> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
> was implemented by the word !
>
> The exact wording is:
>
> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead of
> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
> solution: drop it entirely. "
>
> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
> more effective slips my mind.
>
> later the jira contains:
>
> "accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki
> compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in
> the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API.
> See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ "
>
> Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like that
> above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki
> (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). As
> a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which are
> active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just
> looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises.
>
> At this point in time we have several choices:
> 1) leave the config as it is
> 2) reinstall cats
> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
>
> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
> happely implement another community decision.
>
I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too
much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community
decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there
is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss.
Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one
area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is
important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of
those times.
Thanks!
-Rob
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
>>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 7 February 2014 08:48, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 07/02/2014 jan i wrote:
>
>> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
>> was implemented by the word !
>>
>
> Yes, probably, but it was badly written in my mail that was then copied to
> JIRA. You, and a few others, know that the contents of that JIRA issue
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7173
> result from an afternoon I spent during the holidays trying to put
> together all pending improvement suggestions that had come to us through
> many channels. I didn't take care to put many explanations there.
>
>
> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
>> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead
>> of
>> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
>> solution: drop it entirely. "
>>
>
> That specific suggestion was worded that way because I had read from
> someone (you, maybe?) that with the new improvements there could (just a
> possibility) be the possibility to do without the CAPTCHA. We tried, it
> didn't work and it's no problem to fix it immediately.
>
>
> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
>> more effective slips my mind.
>>
>
> I wrote it in a wrong way giving somehow for granted that the MWiki
> upgrade would feature some native anti-spam measures and that those
> measures would suit our purpose. Again, we tried, they didn't, no problem
> to revert quickly.
>
>
> At this point in time we have several choices:
>> 1) leave the config as it is
>> 2) reinstall cats
>> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
>> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
>> happely implement another community decision.
>>
>
> The current remedy you put in place (no self account creation) will
> obviously work for the time being, thanks for being fast in reacting.
>
> So let's move forward and see what we can implement now: where's the list
> of CAPTCHA solutions on mediawiki.com? Do you have any recommendations
> or, on the contrary, any extensions that Infra is not going to allow?
>
Anything found in
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix/AllExtensions where
"mediawiki version" allows 1.22 should do.
Especially for CAPTCHA there is one other limitation. The extension must be
self supported, NO calls to third party sites (since this is often used to
collect information).
rgds
jan I.
(By the way, the CAPTCHA issue exploded before I could review all items,
> but thank you for the work on all other pending issues! And let's get this
> one done properly too)
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 07/02/2014 jan i wrote:
> May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
> was implemented by the word !
Yes, probably, but it was badly written in my mail that was then copied
to JIRA. You, and a few others, know that the contents of that JIRA issue
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7173
result from an afternoon I spent during the holidays trying to put
together all pending improvement suggestions that had come to us through
many channels. I didn't take care to put many explanations there.
> "Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
> doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead of
> HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
> solution: drop it entirely. "
That specific suggestion was worded that way because I had read from
someone (you, maybe?) that with the new improvements there could (just a
possibility) be the possibility to do without the CAPTCHA. We tried, it
didn't work and it's no problem to fix it immediately.
> That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
> more effective slips my mind.
I wrote it in a wrong way giving somehow for granted that the MWiki
upgrade would feature some native anti-spam measures and that those
measures would suit our purpose. Again, we tried, they didn't, no
problem to revert quickly.
> At this point in time we have several choices:
> 1) leave the config as it is
> 2) reinstall cats
> 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
> I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
> happely implement another community decision.
The current remedy you put in place (no self account creation) will
obviously work for the time being, thanks for being fast in reacting.
So let's move forward and see what we can implement now: where's the
list of CAPTCHA solutions on mediawiki.com? Do you have any
recommendations or, on the contrary, any extensions that Infra is not
going to allow?
(By the way, the CAPTCHA issue exploded before I could review all items,
but thank you for the work on all other pending issues! And let's get
this one done properly too)
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> jan i wrote:
>
>> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
>> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
>> here)
>> you will see my warning.
>>
>
> The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
> can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in the
> meantime.
>
> The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
> more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
> possible and in the "see what's best to replace them (but something MORE
> effective, not LESS effective!).
>
May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira
was implemented by the word !
The exact wording is:
"Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It
doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead of
HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 -> Recommended
solution: drop it entirely. "
That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something
more effective slips my mind.
later the jira contains:
"accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki
compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in
the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API.
See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ "
Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like that
above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki
(meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). As
a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which are
active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just
looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises.
At this point in time we have several choices:
1) leave the config as it is
2) reinstall cats
3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one).
I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will
happely implement another community decision.
rgds
jan I.
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
jan i wrote:
> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in here)
> you will see my warning.
The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we
can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in
the meantime.
The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much
more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as
possible and in the meantime see what's best to replace them (but
something MORE effective, not LESS effective!).
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 6 February 2014 21:06, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 6 February 2014 19:00, helen <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I'm Helen, a Wi admin.
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Helen_russian
> >>
> >> Since 5th Feb. MWiki is under a massive spam attack.
> >> Please take a look: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete,
> >> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/block
> >>
> >
> > I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
> > cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
> here)
> > you will see my warning.
> >
> > The simple captcha we have in place, is browser safe, but not very
> > efficient. I assume the admins as such wanted the change (otherwise I am
> > sure the task would not have been added).
> >
> > Another captcha was suggested, but with the note "not tested on
> mediawiki"
> > (or something similar). We only install extensions supported by mediawiki
> > of course.
> >
>
> A simpler solution: Why not add back the "cat" captcha, but only show
> it to the spammers?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> (OK. That is a joke. But I was once asked by a manager, many years
> ago, to improve a spell checker so it only reported misspellings of
> words that were in the dictionary.)
>
I am happy, someone can make a joke out of a self imposed spam attack.
I am surely too serious in my work, but would much more ike to see a
community agreed solution, before we end having all admins fight spam (just
remember last time).
rgds
jan I.
>
> > If the admins wants a change, then please have a discussion about it on
> the
> > ML, and once agreed upon, file a JIRA.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> > Please help.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Helen
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 6 February 2014 19:00, helen <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I'm Helen, a Wi admin.
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Helen_russian
> >>
> >> Since 5th Feb. MWiki is under a massive spam attack.
> >> Please take a look: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete,
> >> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/block
> >>
> >
> > I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
> > cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in
> here)
> > you will see my warning.
> >
> > The simple captcha we have in place, is browser safe, but not very
> > efficient. I assume the admins as such wanted the change (otherwise I am
> > sure the task would not have been added).
> >
> > Another captcha was suggested, but with the note "not tested on
> mediawiki"
> > (or something similar). We only install extensions supported by mediawiki
> > of course.
> >
>
> A simpler solution: Why not add back the "cat" captcha, but only show
> it to the spammers?
>
LOL!
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> (OK. That is a joke. But I was once asked by a manager, many years
> ago, to improve a spell checker so it only reported misspellings of
> words that were in the dictionary.)
>
>
> > If the admins wants a change, then please have a discussion about it on
> the
> > ML, and once agreed upon, file a JIRA.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> > Please help.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Helen
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 6 February 2014 19:00, helen <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I'm Helen, a Wi admin. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Helen_russian
>>
>> Since 5th Feb. MWiki is under a massive spam attack.
>> Please take a look: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete ,
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/block
>>
>
> I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
> cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in here)
> you will see my warning.
>
> The simple captcha we have in place, is browser safe, but not very
> efficient. I assume the admins as such wanted the change (otherwise I am
> sure the task would not have been added).
>
> Another captcha was suggested, but with the note "not tested on mediawiki"
> (or something similar). We only install extensions supported by mediawiki
> of course.
>
A simpler solution: Why not add back the "cat" captcha, but only show
it to the spammers?
Regards,
-Rob
(OK. That is a joke. But I was once asked by a manager, many years
ago, to improve a spell checker so it only reported misspellings of
words that were in the dictionary.)
> If the admins wants a change, then please have a discussion about it on the
> ML, and once agreed upon, file a JIRA.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
> Please help.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Helen
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 6 February 2014 19:00, helen <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm Helen, a Wi admin. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Helen_russian
>
> Since 5th Feb. MWiki is under a massive spam attack.
> Please take a look: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete ,
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Log/block
>
I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the
cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in here)
you will see my warning.
The simple captcha we have in place, is browser safe, but not very
efficient. I assume the admins as such wanted the change (otherwise I am
sure the task would not have been added).
Another captcha was suggested, but with the note "not tested on mediawiki"
(or something similar). We only install extensions supported by mediawiki
of course.
If the admins wants a change, then please have a discussion about it on the
ML, and once agreed upon, file a JIRA.
rgds
jan I.
Please help.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Helen
>
>
>
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