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Posted to general@xml.apache.org by Elliotte Rusty Harold <el...@metalab.unc.edu> on 2004/02/18 13:57:41 UTC

FSF says the Version 2.0 license is incompatible with GPL

The official word is out. The FSF has rejected the Apache 2.0 
license. From 
http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses

The Apache Software License, version 2.0
     This is a free software license but it is incompatible with the 
GPL. The Apache Software License is incompatible with the GPL because 
it has a specific requirement that is not in the GPL: it has certain 
patent termination cases that the GPL does not require. (We don't 
think those patent termination cases are inherently a bad idea, but 
nonetheless they are incompatible with the GNU GPL.)
-- 

   Elliotte Rusty Harold
   elharo@metalab.unc.edu
   Effective XML (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
   http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml            
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0321150406/ref%3Dnosim/cafeaulaitA 

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Re: FSF says the Version 2.0 license is incompatible with GPL

Posted by Paul Libbrecht <pa...@activemath.org>.
On 18-Feb-04, at 19:51 Uhr, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> It does not appear that there's any philosophical divide between the 
> two organizations on these matters. It's simply a matter of lining up 
> the language in the two licenses so everyone can be happy.

Well, except FSF has been claiming high and loud that Apache License 
(and many others) are not compatible... Apache never bothered doing 
that...

paul


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Re: FSF says the Version 2.0 license is incompatible with GPL

Posted by Elliotte Rusty Harold <el...@metalab.unc.edu>.
At 5:53 PM +0100 2/18/04, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
>Although it sorts of invalidates the purpose of the 2.0 
>reformulation (or at least one of them), I think it is rather yet 
>another bad shot for FSF, at leat so I would consider it. They keep 
>asking everyone doing a license to lean down the knees in front the 
>major gnu...
>MPL did only solve this by adding you could take MPL or LGPL...
>

This would certainly be an option for Apache, if you're so motivated. 
An alternative would be to lobby the FSF to release a GPL 3.0 which 
is compatible with Apache 2.0. I have no inside information on this, 
but certainly the FSF has considered patent issues in the past. They 
may well be looking at adding a patent revocation clause of their own.

It does not appear that there's any philosophical divide between the 
two organizations on these matters. It's simply a matter of lining up 
the language in the two licenses so everyone can be happy.
-- 

   Elliotte Rusty Harold
   elharo@metalab.unc.edu
   Effective XML (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
   http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0321150406/ref%3Dnosim/cafeaulaitA

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Re: FSF says the Version 2.0 license is incompatible with GPL

Posted by Paul Libbrecht <pa...@activemath.org>.
Although it sorts of invalidates the purpose of the 2.0 reformulation  
(or at least one of them), I think it is rather yet another bad shot  
for FSF, at leat so I would consider it. They keep asking everyone  
doing a license to lean down the knees in front the major gnu...
MPL did only solve this by adding you could take MPL or LGPL...

Too bad for lawyers but it's gonna be yet another era where we shall  
live in happy legal contradiction and such picky statements as the  
"incompatibility of GPL with Apache license" will continue creeping  
in...

paul

On 18-Feb-04, at 13:57 Uhr, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:

> The official word is out. The FSF has rejected the Apache 2.0 license.  
> From  
> http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses
>
> The Apache Software License, version 2.0
>     This is a free software license but it is incompatible with the  
> GPL. The Apache Software License is incompatible with the GPL because  
> it has a specific requirement that is not in the GPL: it has certain  
> patent termination cases that the GPL does not require. (We don't  
> think those patent termination cases are inherently a bad idea, but  
> nonetheless they are incompatible with the GNU GPL.)
> --  
>
>   Elliotte Rusty Harold
>   elharo@metalab.unc.edu
>   Effective XML (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
>   http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml               
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0321150406/ref%3Dnosim/ 
> cafeaulaitA
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