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Posted to dev@spark.apache.org by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> on 2013/06/22 02:03:10 UTC
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
<rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
<an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
<ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
<mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
<pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
<ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
<ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
<ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
"Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
<rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
(398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
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>The mailing lists are ready:
>dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
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>private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>
>
>
>You can subscribe by sending email to:
>dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>
>
>Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting next
>week.
>
>
>For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Henry
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>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
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>Hi Everyone,
>
>Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>head over to:
>
>http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>
>
>Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>
>I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
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>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold
>Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
>Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
>Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
>Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
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>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>to this list :)
>>
>>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
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>>http://s.apache.org/yRh
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>>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>
>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
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>>per:
>>
>>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
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>>
>>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>into the ASF.
>>
>>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>software grant on this:
>>
>>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
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>>
>>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>CC me?
>>
>>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>
>>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Chris
>>
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>>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>Senior Computer Scientist
>>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Andy,
Thanks for sharing. That's quite a few indeed. Like I said, I'm happy
to help, I'd imagine the steps would be:
1. Notice email to spark-developers@googlegroups.com that by XXX date
(mid July, mid August?) that the project will shift its focus to answering
questions
on user@spark.i.a.o.
2. #1 will give people time to start migrating. If you
want to give me a list of emails I can subscribe them to the new user list.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:00 PM
To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
Created!)
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>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
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>Hey Reynold,
>
>I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
>make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
>conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
>portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>
>There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
>are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
>those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
>source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
>all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>
>With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
>list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
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>spark-users: 868 members
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>spark-developers: 224 members
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>I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
>migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
>user@spark.apache.org
>will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
>are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
>namespace I think even now we can use
>spark.apache.org <http://spark.apache.org> (*think*)
>which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
>I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
>time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
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>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
>To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
>"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>Created!)
>
>>Hi Chris,
>>
>>There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails
>>vs
>>batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>>absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>>the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>>
>>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>>
>>> That OK?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>>> Created!)
>>>
>>> >+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>>> >subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>>> >bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>> >
>>> >I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>>> >migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki
>>>for
>>> >Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>> >
>>> >Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>>> >lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the
>>>users
>>> >list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>>> >have to migrate it once.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires
>>>subscribers
>>> >to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate
>>>to
>>> >an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>>we
>>> >graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>>> > do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>>> >more subscribers.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>>seems
>>> >a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>>go
>>> >away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process
>>>(i.e.
>>> >podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Anyway, I see our options as:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>>that
>>> >is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>>> >list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>>Con:
>>> >it's confusing to have user and dev
>>> > lists on different infra.
>>> >
>>> >2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>>plan I
>>> >proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>>> >users.
>>> >
>>> >Andy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi Andy,
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>> >From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> >Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>>> ><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> >Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>> >To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> >Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>> >
>>> >>This is great.
>>> >>
>>> >>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>> >>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>> >>google
>>> >>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>> somewhere
>>> >>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>> >
>>> >OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier,
>>>but
>>> >didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>> >
>>> >https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>> >
>>> >(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>>>week
>>> >in
>>> >DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>> >>mailing
>>> >>lists over to the new ones.
>>> >>
>>> >>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will
>>>help
>>> >>make
>>> >>for a smooth transition:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>> >> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>> >> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>> >> 3. At Switch time:
>>> >> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>>links
>>> >> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>> >>saying all
>>> >> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>> >> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>> >> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to
>>>the
>>> >>new
>>> >> apache lists
>>> >
>>> >Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Chris
>>> >
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>> >>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>> >>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> >>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>>Dave
>>> >>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>Haoyuan
>>> >>>Li
>>> >>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> >>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>>Chowdhury
>>> >>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> >>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> >>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> Ryan
>>> >>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>> >>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>> >>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> >>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> >>>Thomas
>>> >>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> >>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
>>> >>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>><shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>> >,
>>> >>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> >>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>> >>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>>> >>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>> >>>Shaposhnik
>>> >>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>> >>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>>> >>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>> >>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>> and
>>> >>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list
>>>starting
>>> >>>next
>>> >>> >week.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Thanks,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Henry
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> >>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Hi Everyone,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>> >>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>> >>> >head over to:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Please fill that out and then submit to
>>> >secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>> >>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>> >>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Cheers,
>>> >>> >Chris
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>> >>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> >>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>>Dave
>>> >>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>> >>>Li
>>> >>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> >>> Reynold
>>> >>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>> >>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> >>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>><charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>> >,
>>> >>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> >>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> >>>Ryan
>>> >>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>> >>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> >>> >,
>>> >>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> >>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan
>>><mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> >>> Thomas
>>> >>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> >>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
>>> >>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>> >>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> >>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> >>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>> >>><se...@webtrends.com>
>>> >>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>Hi Everyone,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>> >>> >>to this list :)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>> >>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>per:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>> >>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>> >>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>> >>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>> >>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>> >>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>> >>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>> >>> >>into the ASF.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>> >>> >>software grant on this:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>> >>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>> >>> >>CC me?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>> >>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>> >>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Cheers,
>>> >>> >>Chris
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
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Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hey Reynold,
>
> I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
> make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
> conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
> portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>
> There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
> are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
> those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
> source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
> all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>
> With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
> list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>
spark-users: 868 members
spark-developers: 224 members
>
> I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
> migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
> user@spark.apache.org
> will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
> are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
> namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
> which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
> I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
> time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> Created!)
>
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
> >batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
> >absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
> >the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Andy et al.,
> >>
> >> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
> >> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
> >> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
> >> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
> >> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
> >>
> >> That OK?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
> >> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
> >> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> >> Created!)
> >>
> >> >+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
> >> >subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
> >> >bounced by Apache's spam filters).
> >> >
> >> >I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
> >> >migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
> >> >Spark (on Apache infra)"...
> >> >
> >> >Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
> >> >lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
> >> >list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
> >> >have to migrate it once.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
> >> >to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
> >> >an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
> >>we
> >> >graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
> >> > do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
> >> >more subscribers.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
> >>seems
> >> >a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
> >>go
> >> >away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
> >> >podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Anyway, I see our options as:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
> >>that
> >> >is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
> >> >list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
> >>Con:
> >> >it's confusing to have user and dev
> >> > lists on different infra.
> >> >
> >> >2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
> >>plan I
> >> >proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
> >> >users.
> >> >
> >> >Andy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> >> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hi Andy,
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >
> >> >From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> >> >Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
> >> ><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >> >Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
> >> >To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >> >
> >> >>This is great.
> >> >>
> >> >>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
> >> >>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
> >> >>google
> >> >>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
> >> somewhere
> >> >>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
> >> >
> >> >OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
> >> >didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
> >> >
> >> >https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Did you request a list yet? Should i?
> >> >
> >> >(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
> >>week
> >> >in
> >> >DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
> >> >>mailing
> >> >>lists over to the new ones.
> >> >>
> >> >>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> >> >>make
> >> >>for a smooth transition:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> >> >> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> >> >> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> >> >> 3. At Switch time:
> >> >> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
> >>links
> >> >> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
> >> >>saying all
> >> >> conversations are moving over to that list.
> >> >> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> >> >> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
> >> >>new
> >> >> apache lists
> >> >
> >> >Perfect! That's correct Andy.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> >> >>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >>> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> >> >>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >> >>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
> Dave
> >> >>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>Haoyuan
> >> >>>Li
> >> >>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> >>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
> >>Chowdhury
> >> >>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
> >><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> >>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >> >>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> >> Ryan
> >> >>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >> >>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> >> >>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >> >>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >> >>>Thomas
> >> >>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >> >>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
> >> >>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
> >><shannie.huang@gmail.com
> >> >,
> >> >>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >> >>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
> >> >>><se...@webtrends.com>,
> >> >>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
> >> >>>Shaposhnik
> >> >>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> >> >>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >The mailing lists are ready:
> >> >>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >> >>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
> >> and
> >> >>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list
> starting
> >> >>>next
> >> >>> >week.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Thanks,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Henry
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> >> >>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Hi Everyone,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >> >>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >> >>> >head over to:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Please fill that out and then submit to
> >> >secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >> >>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >> >>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Cheers,
> >> >>> >Chris
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >>> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >> >>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >> >>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
> >>Dave
> >> >>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> Haoyuan
> >> >>>Li
> >> >>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> >>> Reynold
> >> >>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> >> >>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >> >>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
> >><charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
> >> >,
> >> >>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >> >>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> >> >>>Ryan
> >> >>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >> >>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >> >>> >,
> >> >>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >> >>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mridulm@yahoo-inc.com
> >,
> >> >>> Thomas
> >> >>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >> >>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
> >> >>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
> >> >>><sh...@gmail.com>,
> >> >>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >> >>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
> >> >>><se...@webtrends.com>
> >> >>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>Hi Everyone,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >> >>> >>to this list :)
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >> >>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>per:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >> >>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >> >>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >> >>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >> >>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >> >>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >> >>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >> >>> >>into the ASF.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >> >>> >>software grant on this:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >> >>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >> >>> >>CC me?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >> >>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >> >>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>Cheers,
> >> >>> >>Chris
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Matei Zaharia <ma...@eecs.berkeley.edu>.
Hey Chris,
I definitely understand that we need to move to Apache lists, and I think that's fine, but maybe one question -- is it possible to transform the *@spark.incubator.apache.org lists into *@spark.apache.org more seamlessly when we graduate? It's weird to ask users to move twice. If these could somehow become aliases that would be ideal.
In any case though, I think we'll have a gradual transition. I'd first move the dev list over, then the user one, and for a while I'd keep both and keep a notice on the Google group. I'm not sure how Google groups allow that but there must be a way.
Matei
On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hey Reynold,
>
> I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
> make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
> conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
> portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>
> There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
> are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
> those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
> source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
> all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>
> With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
> list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>
> I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
> migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
> user@spark.apache.org
> will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
> are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
> namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
> which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
> I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
> time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> Created!)
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
>> batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>> absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>> the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>>
>>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>>
>>> That OK?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>>> Created!)
>>>
>>>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>>>> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>>>> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>>>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>>>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>>>> lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>>>> list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>>>> have to migrate it once.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>>>> to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>>>> an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>> we
>>>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>>>> do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>>>> more subscribers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>> seems
>>>> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>> go
>>>> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>>>> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>> that
>>>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>>>> list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>> Con:
>>>> it's confusing to have user and dev
>>>> lists on different infra.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>> plan I
>>>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>>>> users.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>>>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>
>>>>> This is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>>>> google
>>>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>> somewhere
>>>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>>
>>>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>>>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>>>
>>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>>>
>>>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>>> week
>>>> in
>>>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>>>> mailing
>>>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>>>> make
>>>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>> links
>>>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>>>> saying all
>>>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>>>> new
>>>>> apache lists
>>>>
>>>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>> Chowdhury
>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>> <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> Ryan
>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>> <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>>> ,
>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>>>>> <se...@webtrends.com>,
>>>>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>>>>> Shaposhnik
>>>>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>>>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>> and
>>>>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>>>>> head over to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to
>>>> secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>> Dave
>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Reynold
>>>>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>> <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>>>>> <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>>>>> <se...@webtrends.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> per:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Matei,
ASF officers can request the list here:
https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
I've tried a few times to submit but the form seems
to be down. I'll try again tomorrow.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:53 PM
To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
Created!)
>Hey Chris, given that we'll do this, how do we request a
>user@spark.incubator.apache.org list?
>
>Matei
>
>On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hey Matei,
>>
>> Yep the below is exactly what I suggested to Andy (per your plan below).
>>
>> And yep I think with the $p.i.a.o namespace the transition is pretty
>> seamless and doesn't require much from the users.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matei Zaharia <ma...@berkeley.edu>
>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:29 PM
>> To: <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>> Created!)
>>
>>> Hey Chris,
>>>
>>> I definitely understand that we need to move to Apache lists, and I
>>>think
>>> that's fine, but maybe one question -- is it possible to transform the
>>> *@spark.incubator.apache.org <http://spark.incubator.apache.org/> lists
>>> into *@spark.apache.org <http://spark.apache.org/> more seamlessly when
>>> we graduate? It's weird to ask users to move twice. If these could
>>> somehow become aliases that would be ideal.
>>>
>>> In any case though, I think we'll have a gradual transition. I'd first
>>> move the dev list over, then the user one, and for a while I'd keep
>>>both
>>> and keep a notice on the Google group. I'm not sure how Google groups
>>> allow that but there must be a way.
>>>
>>> Matei
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Reynold,
>>>
>>> I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
>>> make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
>>> conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
>>> portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>>>
>>> There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
>>> are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
>>> those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
>>> source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
>>> all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>>>
>>> With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
>>> list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>>>
>>> I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
>>> migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
>>> user@spark.apache.org
>>> will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
>>> are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
>>> namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
>>> which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
>>> I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
>>> time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
>>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>>> Created!)
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual
>>>emails vs
>>> batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not
>>>an
>>> absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>>> the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>>
>>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>>
>>> That OK?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>>> Created!)
>>>
>>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>>> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>>> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>>
>>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>>
>>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>>> lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>>> list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>>> have to migrate it once.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>>> to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>>> an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>>
>>>
>>> we
>>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>>> do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>>> more subscribers.
>>>
>>>
>>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>>
>>>
>>> seems
>>> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>>
>>>
>>> go
>>> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>>> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>>
>>>
>>> that
>>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>>> list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>>
>>>
>>> Con:
>>> it's confusing to have user and dev
>>> lists on different infra.
>>>
>>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>>
>>>
>>> plan I
>>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>>> users.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>> This is great.
>>>
>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>> google
>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> somewhere
>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>>
>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>>
>>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>>> week
>>> in
>>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>> mailing
>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>
>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>> make
>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>
>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> links
>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>> saying all
>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>> new
>>> apache lists
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Haoyuan
>>> Li
>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>>
>>>
>>> Chowdhury
>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>>
>>>
>>> <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> Thomas
>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>>
>>>
>>> <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>> ,
>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>> <se...@webtrends.com>,
>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>> Shaposhnik
>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>
>>>
>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and
>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>
>>>
>>> next
>>> week.
>>>
>>>
>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Henry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>> head over to:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> Please fill that out and then submit to
>>>
>>>
>>> secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>
>>>
>>> Haoyuan
>>> Li
>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>
>>>
>>> Reynold
>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>> ,
>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>
>>>
>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> ,
>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>
>>>
>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>>
>>>
>>> <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>>
>>>
>>> <se...@webtrends.com>
>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>> to this list :)
>>>
>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>
>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>
>>>
>>> per:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>
>>>
>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>> into the ASF.
>>>
>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>> software grant on this:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>> CC me?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>
>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hey Chris, given that we'll do this, how do we request a user@spark.incubator.apache.org list?
Matei
On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hey Matei,
>
> Yep the below is exactly what I suggested to Andy (per your plan below).
>
> And yep I think with the $p.i.a.o namespace the transition is pretty
> seamless and doesn't require much from the users.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matei Zaharia <ma...@berkeley.edu>
> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:29 PM
> To: <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> Created!)
>
>> Hey Chris,
>>
>> I definitely understand that we need to move to Apache lists, and I think
>> that's fine, but maybe one question -- is it possible to transform the
>> *@spark.incubator.apache.org <http://spark.incubator.apache.org/> lists
>> into *@spark.apache.org <http://spark.apache.org/> more seamlessly when
>> we graduate? It's weird to ask users to move twice. If these could
>> somehow become aliases that would be ideal.
>>
>> In any case though, I think we'll have a gradual transition. I'd first
>> move the dev list over, then the user one, and for a while I'd keep both
>> and keep a notice on the Google group. I'm not sure how Google groups
>> allow that but there must be a way.
>>
>> Matei
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey Reynold,
>>
>> I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
>> make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
>> conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
>> portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>>
>> There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
>> are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
>> those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
>> source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
>> all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>>
>> With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
>> list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>>
>> I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
>> migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
>> user@spark.apache.org
>> will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
>> are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
>> namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
>> which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
>> I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
>> time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>> Created!)
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
>> batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>> absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>> the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>
>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>
>> That OK?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>> Created!)
>>
>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>
>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>
>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>> lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>> list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>> have to migrate it once.
>>
>>
>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>> to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>> an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>
>>
>> we
>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>> do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>> more subscribers.
>>
>>
>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>
>>
>> seems
>> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>
>>
>> go
>> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>
>>
>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>
>>
>> that
>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>> list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>
>>
>> Con:
>> it's confusing to have user and dev
>> lists on different infra.
>>
>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>
>>
>> plan I
>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>> users.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> This is great.
>>
>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>> google
>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> somewhere
>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>
>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>
>>
>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>
>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>> week
>> in
>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> mailing
>> lists over to the new ones.
>>
>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> make
>> for a smooth transition:
>>
>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> 3. At Switch time:
>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> links
>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>> saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>> new
>> apache lists
>>
>>
>>
>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Haoyuan
>> Li
>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>
>>
>> Chowdhury
>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>
>>
>> <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>
>>
>> <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>> ,
>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>> <se...@webtrends.com>,
>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>> Shaposhnik
>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>
>>
>> The mailing lists are ready:
>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>
>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> and
>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>
>>
>> next
>> week.
>>
>>
>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> head over to:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>
>>
>> Please fill that out and then submit to
>>
>>
>> secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>
>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>
>>
>> Dave
>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>
>>
>> Haoyuan
>> Li
>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>
>>
>> Reynold
>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>> ,
>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>
>>
>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> ,
>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>
>>
>> Thomas
>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>
>>
>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>
>>
>> <sh...@gmail.com>,
>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>
>>
>> <se...@webtrends.com>
>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> to this list :)
>>
>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>
>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>
>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>
>>
>> per:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>
>>
>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> into the ASF.
>>
>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> software grant on this:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>
>>
>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> CC me?
>>
>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>
>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Matei,
Yep the below is exactly what I suggested to Andy (per your plan below).
And yep I think with the $p.i.a.o namespace the transition is pretty
seamless and doesn't require much from the users.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Matei Zaharia <ma...@berkeley.edu>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:29 PM
To: <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
Created!)
>Hey Chris,
>
>I definitely understand that we need to move to Apache lists, and I think
>that's fine, but maybe one question -- is it possible to transform the
>*@spark.incubator.apache.org <http://spark.incubator.apache.org/> lists
>into *@spark.apache.org <http://spark.apache.org/> more seamlessly when
>we graduate? It's weird to ask users to move twice. If these could
>somehow become aliases that would be ideal.
>
>In any case though, I think we'll have a gradual transition. I'd first
>move the dev list over, then the user one, and for a while I'd keep both
>and keep a notice on the Google group. I'm not sure how Google groups
>allow that but there must be a way.
>
>Matei
>
>On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)"
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Reynold,
>
>I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
>make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
>conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
>portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>
>There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
>are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
>those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
>source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
>all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>
>With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
>list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>
>I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
>migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
>user@spark.apache.org
>will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
>are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
>namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
>which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
>I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
>time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
>To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
>"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>Created!)
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
>batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>Hi Andy et al.,
>
>Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>
>That OK?
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>Created!)
>
>+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>
>I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>
>Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>have to migrate it once.
>
>
>Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>
>
>we
>graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>more subscribers.
>
>
>This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>
>
>seems
>a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>
>
>go
>away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>
>
>Anyway, I see our options as:
>
>
>1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>
>
>that
>is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>
>
>Con:
>it's confusing to have user and dev
>lists on different infra.
>
>2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>
>
>plan I
>proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>users.
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>Hi Andy,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
>This is great.
>
>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>google
>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>
>
>
>
>somewhere
>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
>
>
>OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>
>https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>
>
>Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>
>(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>week
>in
>DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>
>
>
>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>mailing
>lists over to the new ones.
>
>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>make
>for a smooth transition:
>
> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> 3. At Switch time:
> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>
>
>
>
>links
> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>saying all
> conversations are moving over to that list.
> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>new
> apache lists
>
>
>
>Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>
>
>
>
>Haoyuan
>Li
><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>
>
>Chowdhury
><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>
>
><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>
>
>Ryan
>LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>Thomas
>Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
><st...@gmail.com>,
>Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>
>
><shannie.huang@gmail.com
>,
>Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
><se...@webtrends.com>,
>"Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>Shaposhnik
><rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>(398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
>Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>
>
>The mailing lists are ready:
>dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>
>private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>
>
>
>You can subscribe by sending email to:
>dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>
>
>
>
>
>
>and
>only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>
>
>Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>
>
>next
>week.
>
>
>For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Henry
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>head over to:
>
>http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>
>
>Please fill that out and then submit to
>
>
>secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>
>I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>
>
>Dave
><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>
>
>Haoyuan
>Li
><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>
>
>Reynold
>Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>
>
>
>
><charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>,
>Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>
>
>Ryan
>LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>
>
><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>,
>Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>
>
>Thomas
>Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>
>
><st...@gmail.com>,
>Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>
>
><sh...@gmail.com>,
>Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>
>
><se...@webtrends.com>
>Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>to this list :)
>
>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>
>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>
>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>
>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>
>
>per:
>
>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>
>
>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>into the ASF.
>
>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>software grant on this:
>
>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>
>
>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>CC me?
>
>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>
>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
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Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Matei Zaharia <ma...@berkeley.edu>.
Hey Chris,
I definitely understand that we need to move to Apache lists, and I think that's fine, but maybe one question -- is it possible to transform the *@spark.incubator.apache.org lists into *@spark.apache.org more seamlessly when we graduate? It's weird to ask users to move twice. If these could somehow become aliases that would be ideal.
In any case though, I think we'll have a gradual transition. I'd first move the dev list over, then the user one, and for a while I'd keep both and keep a notice on the Google group. I'm not sure how Google groups allow that but there must be a way.
Matei
On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hey Reynold,
>
> I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
> make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
> conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
> portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
>
> There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
> are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
> those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
> source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
> all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
>
> With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
> list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
>
> I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
> migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
> user@spark.apache.org
> will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
> are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
> namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
> which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
> I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
> time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> Created!)
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
>> batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>> absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>> the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>>
>>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>>
>>> That OK?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>>> Created!)
>>>
>>>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>>>> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>>>> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>>>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>>>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>>>> lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>>>> list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>>>> have to migrate it once.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>>>> to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>>>> an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>> we
>>>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>>>> do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>>>> more subscribers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>> seems
>>>> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>> go
>>>> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>>>> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>> that
>>>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>>>> list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>> Con:
>>>> it's confusing to have user and dev
>>>> lists on different infra.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>> plan I
>>>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>>>> users.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>>>> <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>
>>>>> This is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>>>> google
>>>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>> somewhere
>>>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>>
>>>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>>>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>>>
>>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>>>
>>>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>>> week
>>>> in
>>>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>>>> mailing
>>>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>>>> make
>>>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>> links
>>>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>>>> saying all
>>>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>>>> new
>>>>> apache lists
>>>>
>>>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>> Chowdhury
>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>> <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> Ryan
>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>> <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>>> ,
>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>>>>> <se...@webtrends.com>,
>>>>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>>>>> Shaposhnik
>>>>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>>>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>> and
>>>>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>>>>> head over to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to
>>>> secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>> Dave
>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Reynold
>>>>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>>> <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>>>>> <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>>>>> <se...@webtrends.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> per:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Reynold,
I hear your pain - trust me I do - but at the same time it doesn't
make sense to half complete bringing the community over. Mailing list
conversation (especially user oriented ones) are one of the core
portions of open source communities at least in my experience.
There are not really many hard requirements here at the ASF -- there
are social norms and memes and old fuddy duddies like me who share
those memes and information with people to try and encourage open
source best practice, while at the same time trying not to disturb
all the awesomeness going on that you guys are leading.
With that, how many users are we talking about on the user mailing
list at this point? Can you give me an exact count?
I'm willing to spend the time to get people migrated now. Then,
migrating later from user@spark.incubator.apache.org to
user@spark.apache.org
will be really less of a hassle and a lot less difficult since we
are really moving from ezmlm to ezmlm. Also with the $podling.i.a.o
namespace I think even now we can use spark.apache.org (*think*)
which in turn could cause even less hassle later. In addition, like
I said, when we graduate to TLP I'll also be happy to contribute
time towards making the migration as seamless as possible.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:08 PM
To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>,
"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
Created!)
>Hi Chris,
>
>There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
>batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
>absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
>the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy et al.,
>>
>> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
>> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
>> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
>> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
>> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>>
>> That OK?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
>> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
>> Created!)
>>
>> >+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>> >subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>> >bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>> >
>> >I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>> >migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>> >Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>> >
>> >Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>> >lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>> >list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>> >have to migrate it once.
>> >
>> >
>> >Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>> >to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>> >an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when
>>we
>> >graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
>> > do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>> >more subscribers.
>> >
>> >
>> >This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>>seems
>> >a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will
>>go
>> >away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>> >podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>> >
>> >
>> >Anyway, I see our options as:
>> >
>> >
>> >1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group
>>that
>> >is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>> >list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then.
>>Con:
>> >it's confusing to have user and dev
>> > lists on different infra.
>> >
>> >2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration
>>plan I
>> >proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>> >users.
>> >
>> >Andy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Andy,
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> >Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
>> ><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> >Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>> >To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> >Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >
>> >>This is great.
>> >>
>> >>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>> >>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>> >>google
>> >>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>> somewhere
>> >>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>> >
>> >OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>> >didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>> >
>> >https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>> >
>> >(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>>week
>> >in
>> >DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> >>mailing
>> >>lists over to the new ones.
>> >>
>> >>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> >>make
>> >>for a smooth transition:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> >> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> >> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> >> 3. At Switch time:
>> >> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>links
>> >> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>> >>saying all
>> >> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> >> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> >> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>> >>new
>> >> apache lists
>> >
>> >Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> >>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>> >>>
>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> >>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> >>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> >>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> >>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>Haoyuan
>> >>>Li
>> >>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>>Chowdhury
>> >>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> >>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> Ryan
>> >>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>> >>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>> >>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> >>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> >>>Thomas
>> >>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> >>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
>> >>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>><shannie.huang@gmail.com
>> >,
>> >>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> >>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>> >>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>> >>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>> >>>Shaposhnik
>> >>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> >>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >>>
>> >>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>> >>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >>> >
>> >>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> >>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>> and
>> >>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>> >>>next
>> >>> >week.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Thanks,
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Henry
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> >>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> >>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> >>> >head over to:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Please fill that out and then submit to
>> >secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> >>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> >>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Cheers,
>> >>> >Chris
>> >>> >
>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>> >>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> >>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> >>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur
>>Dave
>> >>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Haoyuan
>> >>>Li
>> >>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >>> Reynold
>> >>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> >>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> >>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>><charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>> >,
>> >>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> >>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> >>>Ryan
>> >>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>> >>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >>> >,
>> >>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> >>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> >>> Thomas
>> >>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> >>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
>> >>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>> >>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>> >>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> >>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>> >>><se...@webtrends.com>
>> >>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>Hi Everyone,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> >>> >>to this list :)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> >>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>per:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> >>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> >>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> >>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> >>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> >>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> >>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> >>> >>into the ASF.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> >>> >>software grant on this:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> >>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> >>> >>CC me?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> >>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> >>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Cheers,
>> >>> >>Chris
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> >>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Reynold Xin <re...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,
There are a lot of user preferences set by them (e.g. individual emails vs
batch) that wouldn't work when you just "import". If user list is not an
absolute requirement for the incubator, it would make sense to delay
the migration of user lists until we are graduating to a TLP.
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Andy et al.,
>
> Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
> get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
> to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
> the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
> email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
>
> That OK?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
> "spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
> Created!)
>
> >+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
> >subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
> >bounced by Apache's spam filters).
> >
> >I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
> >migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
> >Spark (on Apache infra)"...
> >
> >Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
> >lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
> >list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
> >have to migrate it once.
> >
> >
> >Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
> >to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
> >an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
> >graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
> > do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
> >more subscribers.
> >
> >
> >This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems
> >a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
> >away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
> >podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
> >
> >
> >Anyway, I see our options as:
> >
> >
> >1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
> >is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
> >list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con:
> >it's confusing to have user and dev
> > lists on different infra.
> >
> >2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
> >proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
> >users.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Andy,
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
> ><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
> >To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >
> >>This is great.
> >>
> >>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
> >>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
> >>google
> >>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
> somewhere
> >>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
> >
> >OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
> >didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
> >
> >https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
> >
> >
> >Did you request a list yet? Should i?
> >
> >(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week
> >in
> >DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
> >>mailing
> >>lists over to the new ones.
> >>
> >>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> >>make
> >>for a smooth transition:
> >>
> >> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> >> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> >> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> >> 3. At Switch time:
> >> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> >> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
> >>saying all
> >> conversations are moving over to that list.
> >> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> >> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
> >>new
> >> apache lists
> >
> >Perfect! That's correct Andy.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Chris
> >
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> >>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >>>
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>> Senior Computer Scientist
> >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> >>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> >>>Li
> >>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> Ryan
> >>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> >>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >>>Thomas
> >>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
> >>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
> >,
> >>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
> >>><se...@webtrends.com>,
> >>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
> >>>Shaposhnik
> >>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> >>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>>
> >>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >The mailing lists are ready:
> >>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
> and
> >>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
> >>>next
> >>> >week.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Henry
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> >>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >Hi Everyone,
> >>> >
> >>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >>> >head over to:
> >>> >
> >>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Please fill that out and then submit to
> >secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
> >>> >
> >>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >>> >
> >>> >Cheers,
> >>> >Chris
> >>> >
> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> Haoyuan
> >>>Li
> >>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>> Reynold
> >>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> >>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
> >,
> >>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> >>>Ryan
> >>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >>> >,
> >>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >>> Thomas
> >>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >>><st...@gmail.com>,
> >>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
> >>><sh...@gmail.com>,
> >>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
> >>><se...@webtrends.com>
> >>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>> >
> >>> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >>> >>to this list :)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>per:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >>> >>into the ASF.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >>> >>software grant on this:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >>> >>CC me?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Cheers,
> >>> >>Chris
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
> >>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Reynold Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> I think we should avoid migrating the list too many times, especially the
> user list.
>
> Also - are there any rules regarding maintaining a separate, non-Apache
> mailing list by 3rd party? Google Groups has been very convenient for
> users, both in terms of the UX and the way to quickly and easily search for
> archived messages.
Hi Reynold,
I should look up the reference the right reference but it is not encouraged (or allowed) to use 3rd-party mailing lists. I certainly sympathize with the loss of usability when moving from google groups to ezmlm lists, but I do not think we have a choice.
Suresh
>
> --
> Reynold Xin, AMPLab, UC Berkeley
> http://rxin.org
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>>
>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>
>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to lists
>> on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
>> apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
>> migrate it once.
>>
>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers to
>> do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
>> incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
>> will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
>>
>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems
>> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
>> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>
>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>
>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users list
>> until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
>> confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>> users.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <
>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>>> This is great.
>>>>
>>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>>> google
>>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>> somewhere
>>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>
>>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>>
>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>>
>>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week
>>> in
>>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>> mailing
>>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>>
>>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>>> make
>>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>>> saying all
>>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>> new
>>>> apache lists
>>>
>>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>>> Li
>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> Ryan
>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>>> ,
>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>>>> ,
>>>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>> Shaposhnik
>>>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>> and
>>>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>>> next
>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>>>> head over to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Haoyuan
>>>>> Li
>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>> Reynold
>>>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>>> ,
>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>> Ryan
>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>>> ,
>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
>>> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> per:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Reynold Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>.
I think we should avoid migrating the list too many times, especially the
user list.
Also - are there any rules regarding maintaining a separate, non-Apache
mailing list by 3rd party? Google Groups has been very convenient for
users, both in terms of the UX and the way to quickly and easily search for
archived messages.
--
Reynold Xin, AMPLab, UC Berkeley
http://rxin.org
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
> subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
> bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>
> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>
> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to lists
> on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
> apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
> migrate it once.
>
> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers to
> do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
> incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
> will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
>
> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems
> a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
> away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
> podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>
> Anyway, I see our options as:
>
> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users list
> until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
> confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
> users.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <
>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> >This is great.
>> >
>> >Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>> >spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>> >google
>> >group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>> somewhere
>> >to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>
>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>
>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>
>>
>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>
>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week
>> in
>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> mailing
>> >lists over to the new ones.
>> >
>> >As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> >make
>> >for a smooth transition:
>> >
>> > 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> > 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> > users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> > 3. At Switch time:
>> > 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>> > to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>> >saying all
>> > conversations are moving over to that list.
>> > 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> > 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>> new
>> > apache lists
>>
>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>> >>
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >> Senior Computer Scientist
>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> >> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> >> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> >> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> >>Li
>> >> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> >> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> >> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> Ryan
>> >> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>> >><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>> >> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> >> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> >>Thomas
>> >> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> >> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>> >><st...@gmail.com>,
>> >> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>> >,
>> >> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> >> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>> >,
>> >> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>> Shaposhnik
>> >> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> >> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The mailing lists are ready:
>> >> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >> >
>> >> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> >> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>> and
>> >> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>> >>next
>> >> >week.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Henry
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> >> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi Everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> >> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> >> >head over to:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>> >> >
>> >> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> >> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> >> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> >> >
>> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >Chris
>> >> >
>> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >> >Senior Computer Scientist
>> >> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> >> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> >> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> >> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Haoyuan
>> >>Li
>> >> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >> Reynold
>> >> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> >> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> >> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>> >,
>> >> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> >> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> Ryan
>> >> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>> >><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >> >,
>> >> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> >> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> >> Thomas
>> >> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> >> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>> >><st...@gmail.com>,
>> >> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>> >,
>> >> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> >> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
>> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com>
>> >> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >> >
>> >> >>Hi Everyone,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> >> >>to this list :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> >> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>per:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> >> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> >> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> >> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> >> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> >> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> >> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> >> >>into the ASF.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> >> >>software grant on this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> >> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> >> >>CC me?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> >> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> >> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Cheers,
>> >> >>Chris
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> >> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for clarifying I think I get it now. So the issues is users having to migrate now to user@spark.incubator.apache.org and later to dev@spark.apache.org? Thats less of a worry in my opinion. Because once the project graduates, the incubator list auto redirect to TLP list. Users will slowly change it themselves. I agree migrating from google groups to ASF list will be a big one.
I think we should have lots of lessons learned from Open Office dealing with magnitude more number of users.
Suresh
On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Patrick Wendell <pw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Suresh,
>
> The request here is actually to *not* use the Apache user list while in the
> incubator. The issue is that we don't want to ask almost 1000 people to
> migrate twice between two different lists in a short period of time. That
> seems like the most confusion of all options.
>
> If there is a requirement that eventually we get all lists over to apache,
> then so be it. But having a double migration is something I'd personally
> strongly object to and I feel that others in the community would also
> object to this.
>
> Let's just defer the migration of the users list until we graduate to a TLP
> - this is a completely sensible option and will be easy to explain to the
> broader user community.
>
> - Patrick
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Its strongly advisable to have all the lists on ASF infrastructure. The
>> only reason the incubators are not encouraged against users list is to keep
>> the community together. But if spark already had a user base and the
>> projects wants to have a user list, you should go for it. That will be way
>> less confusing.
>>
>> If there are no objections, I can request a user list.
>>
>> Suresh
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>> subscribed
>>> to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting bounced by
>>> Apache's spam filters).
>>>
>>> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>>> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>>> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>>>
>>> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>> lists
>>> on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
>>> apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
>>> migrate it once.
>>>
>>> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>> to
>>> do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
>>> incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
>>> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
>>> will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
>>>
>>> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
>> seems a
>>> bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
>> away
>>> if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>> podling
>>> TLPs) actually ever happen.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I see our options as:
>>>
>>> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
>>> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>> list
>>> until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
>>> confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
>>> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
>>> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>>> users.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <
>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>>>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>
>>>>> This is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>>>> google
>>>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>> somewhere
>>>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>>
>>>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>>>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>>>
>>>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>>>
>>>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
>> week in
>>>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> mailing
>>>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>>>> make
>>>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>>>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>>>> saying all
>>>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>> new
>>>>> apache lists
>>>>
>>>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
>> Chowdhury
>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>> ,
>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> Ryan
>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>> ,
>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
>> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>>>>> ,
>>>>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>>> Shaposhnik
>>>>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>>>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>> and
>>>>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>>>>> head over to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Haoyuan
>>>>>> Li
>>>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>>> Reynold
>>>>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
>>> ,
>>>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <
>> shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
>> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> per:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Patrick Wendell <pw...@gmail.com>.
Hi Suresh,
The request here is actually to *not* use the Apache user list while in the
incubator. The issue is that we don't want to ask almost 1000 people to
migrate twice between two different lists in a short period of time. That
seems like the most confusion of all options.
If there is a requirement that eventually we get all lists over to apache,
then so be it. But having a double migration is something I'd personally
strongly object to and I feel that others in the community would also
object to this.
Let's just defer the migration of the users list until we graduate to a TLP
- this is a completely sensible option and will be easy to explain to the
broader user community.
- Patrick
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Its strongly advisable to have all the lists on ASF infrastructure. The
> only reason the incubators are not encouraged against users list is to keep
> the community together. But if spark already had a user base and the
> projects wants to have a user list, you should go for it. That will be way
> less confusing.
>
> If there are no objections, I can request a user list.
>
> Suresh
> On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
> subscribed
> > to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting bounced by
> > Apache's spam filters).
> >
> > I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
> > migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
> > Spark (on Apache infra)"...
> >
> > Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
> lists
> > on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
> > apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
> > migrate it once.
> >
> > Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
> to
> > do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
> > incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
> > graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
> > will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
> >
> > This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache
> seems a
> > bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
> away
> > if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
> podling
> > TLPs) actually ever happen.
> >
> > Anyway, I see our options as:
> >
> > 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
> > is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
> list
> > until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
> > confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
> > 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
> > proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
> > users.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Andy,
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <
> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
> >> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>
> >>> This is great.
> >>>
> >>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
> >>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
> >>> google
> >>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
> somewhere
> >>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
> >>
> >> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
> >> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
> >>
> >> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
> >>
> >>
> >> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
> >>
> >> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all
> week in
> >> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
> mailing
> >>> lists over to the new ones.
> >>>
> >>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> >>> make
> >>> for a smooth transition:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> >>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> >>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> >>> 3. At Switch time:
> >>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> >>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
> >>> saying all
> >>> conversations are moving over to that list.
> >>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> >>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
> new
> >>> apache lists
> >>
> >> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> >>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >>>>
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>>> Senior Computer Scientist
> >>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> >>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> Haoyuan
> >>>> Li
> >>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf
> Chowdhury
> >>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
> >,
> >>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> Ryan
> >>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> >>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
> >>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
> >,
> >>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
> >>> ,
> >>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
> >> Shaposhnik
> >>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> >>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
> >>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
> and
> >>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
> >>>> next
> >>>>> week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Henry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> >>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >>>>> head over to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
> >>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> Haoyuan
> >>>> Li
> >>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >>>> Reynold
> >>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> >>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <charles@eecs.berkeley.edu
> >,
> >>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> >> Ryan
> >>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >>>>> ,
> >>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
> >>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <
> shannie.huang@gmail.com
> >>> ,
> >>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <
> sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
> >>>
> >>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >>>>>> to this list :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> per:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >>>>>> into the ASF.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >>>>>> software grant on this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >>>>>> CC me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
> >>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>.
Hi Andy,
Its strongly advisable to have all the lists on ASF infrastructure. The only reason the incubators are not encouraged against users list is to keep the community together. But if spark already had a user base and the projects wants to have a user list, you should go for it. That will be way less confusing.
If there are no objections, I can request a user list.
Suresh
On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> + spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't subscribed
> to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting bounced by
> Apache's spam filters).
>
> I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
> migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
> Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>
> Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to lists
> on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
> apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
> migrate it once.
>
> Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers to
> do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
> incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
> graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
> will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
>
> This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems a
> bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go away
> if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e. podling
> TLPs) actually ever happen.
>
> Anyway, I see our options as:
>
> 1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
> is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users list
> until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
> confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
> 2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
> proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
> users.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>>> This is great.
>>>
>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>> google
>>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
>>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>
>> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>>
>> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>>
>>
>> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>>
>> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week in
>> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
>>> lists over to the new ones.
>>>
>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>> make
>>> for a smooth transition:
>>>
>>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>> 3. At Switch time:
>>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>> saying all
>>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
>>> apache lists
>>
>> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>> Li
>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>> <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>> Thomas
>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>>> ,
>>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>> Shaposhnik
>>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>> next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Henry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>>> head over to:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>> Li
>>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>> Reynold
>>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>> Ryan
>>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>>> <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>>>> ,
>>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>>> <st...@gmail.com>,
>>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
>>> ,
>>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> per:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Andy et al.,
Why don't we just collect the current subscribers to the Google Group,
get them to me, and I'll subscribe them to the ASF new lists? I'm happy
to create a user list here at the ASF for the project, and to migrate
the users. Then all they would have to do is remember to use the new
email when addressing. A change, yes, I know, but still a minimal one.
That OK?
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:04 PM
To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>,
"spark-developers@googlegroups.com" <sp...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling:
Created!)
>+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't
>subscribed to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting
>bounced by Apache's spam filters).
>
>I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
>migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
>Spark (on Apache infra)"...
>
>Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to
>lists on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users
>list to apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only
>have to migrate it once.
>
>
>Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers
>to do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to
>an incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
>graduate to a TLP (which we hope to
> do fairly quickly), it seems like we will irritate and lose strictly
>more subscribers.
>
>
>This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems
>a bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go
>away if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e.
>podling TLPs) actually ever happen.
>
>
>Anyway, I see our options as:
>
>
>1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
>is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users
>list until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con:
>it's confusing to have user and dev
> lists on different infra.
>
>2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
>proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
>users.
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>Hi Andy,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org"
><de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
>To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
>>This is great.
>>
>>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>>google
>>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
>>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
>OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
>didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>
>https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>
>
>Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>
>(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week
>in
>DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>
>
>>
>>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>mailing
>>lists over to the new ones.
>>
>>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>make
>>for a smooth transition:
>>
>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> 3. At Switch time:
>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>new
>> apache lists
>
>Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>Li
>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>>Thomas
>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>><st...@gmail.com>,
>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>>Shaposhnik
>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>next
>>> >week.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Henry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi Everyone,
>>> >
>>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>> >head over to:
>>> >
>>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Please fill that out and then submit to
>secretary@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>
>>> >
>>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Chris
>>> >
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>Li
>>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Reynold
>>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>Ryan
>>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> >,
>>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> Thomas
>>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>><st...@gmail.com>,
>>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>><se...@webtrends.com>
>>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>> >
>>> >>Hi Everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>> >>to this list :)
>>> >>
>>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>> >>
>>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>> >>
>>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>per:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>> >>into the ASF.
>>> >>
>>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>> >>software grant on this:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>> >>CC me?
>>> >>
>>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>> >>
>>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>> >>
>>> >>Cheers,
>>> >>Chris
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>.
+ spark-developers@googlegroups.com to loop in those who haven't subscribed
to dev@spark.i.a.o yet, (also because my emails are getting bounced by
Apache's spam filters).
I wanted to respond here in the conversation about the mailing list
migration that was happening on the email thread called "Re: A wiki for
Spark (on Apache infra)"...
Assuming that we Apache requires us to migrate from google groups to lists
on Apache infra, we might consider waiting to migrating the users list to
apache infra until after we graduate to a TLP, so that we only have to
migrate it once.
Here's why. I assume with each list migration that requires subscribers to
do work, we will lose some subscribers. If we ask them to migrate to an
incubator user list now and then again to yet a different list when we
graduate to a TLP (which we hope to do fairly quickly), it seems like we
will irritate and lose strictly more subscribers.
This requirement to migrate infra twice as part of moving to Apache seems a
bit hard on communities. It also seems like a requirement that will go away
if the changes you are pushing for to the incubation process (i.e. podling
TLPs) actually ever happen.
Anyway, I see our options as:
1. Migrate only the dev list now (since this is a smaller core group that
is more likely to migrate with us) and wait to create an apache users list
until we graduate and migrate from the users google group then. Con: it's
confusing to have user and dev lists on different infra.
2. Move the users list now, in which case we go with the migration plan I
proposed earlier. Con: migrating users list twice = more irritating to
users.
Andy
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
> To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
> >This is great.
> >
> >Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
> >spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
> >google
> >group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
> >to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
> OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
> didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
>
> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
>
>
> Did you request a list yet? Should i?
>
> (BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week in
> DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>
>
> >
> >Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
> >lists over to the new ones.
> >
> >As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> >make
> >for a smooth transition:
> >
> > 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> > 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> > users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> > 3. At Switch time:
> > 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> > to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
> >saying all
> > conversations are moving over to that list.
> > 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> > 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
> > apache lists
>
> Perfect! That's correct Andy.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> >> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> >>Li
> >> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> >> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> >> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >>Thomas
> >> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >><st...@gmail.com>,
> >> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> >> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
> >,
> >> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
> Shaposhnik
> >> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> >> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >>
> >> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The mailing lists are ready:
> >> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >
> >> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
> >> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
> >>next
> >> >week.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Henry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> >> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hi Everyone,
> >> >
> >> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >> >head over to:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> >> >
> >> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> >> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> >> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> >>Li
> >> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> Reynold
> >> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> >> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> >> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> >> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
> Ryan
> >> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
> >><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >> >,
> >> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> >> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> >> Thomas
> >> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> >> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
> >><st...@gmail.com>,
> >> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <shannie.huang@gmail.com
> >,
> >> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> >> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <sean.mcnamara@webtrends.com
> >
> >> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >> >
> >> >>Hi Everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >> >>to this list :)
> >> >>
> >> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >> >>
> >> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >> >>
> >> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >> >>
> >> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>per:
> >> >>
> >> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >> >>into the ASF.
> >> >>
> >> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >> >>software grant on this:
> >> >>
> >> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >> >>CC me?
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >> >>
> >> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >> >>
> >> >>Cheers,
> >> >>Chris
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> >>Senior Computer Scientist
> >> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Andy,
Yeah right now it's set up to accept email from @apache.org email
addresses,
but that can be relaxed if desired. Should I change it?
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:07 AM
To: Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>
Cc: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>Re a commits email list, Henry said that a commits list was created and I
>was able to subscribe to it so it seems like it exists. However, it isn't
>showing up at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ but maybe
>that's because no email has been sent to it yet (thus no archives).
>
>And when i tried sending an email to it, I got a bounce (see below) but it
>looks like it bounced because it only accepts emails from @apache.org
>email
>addresses (and I sent from my gmail address).
>
>Andy
>
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><div><br></div><div>Andy</div></div>
>
>--001a11c37aaa6ee48404dffe5814--
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Matei Zaharia
><ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
>> incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
>> messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>>
>> Matei
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is great.
>>
>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users> google
>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>somewhere
>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>
>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>mailing
>> lists over to the new ones.
>>
>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> make for a smooth transition:
>>
>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> 3. At Switch time:
>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>links
>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>>saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>> new apache lists
>>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>>Li
>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> >,
>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> Thomas
>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>><st...@gmail.com>,
>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>>Shaposhnik
>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>>next
>>> >week.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Henry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi Everyone,
>>> >
>>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>> >head over to:
>>> >
>>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>> >
>>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Chris
>>> >
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>> Li
>>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Reynold
>>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>>Ryan
>>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> >,
>>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>> Thomas
>>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>>><stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>>> >,
>>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>>><se...@webtrends.com>
>>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>> >
>>> >>Hi Everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>> >>to this list :)
>>> >>
>>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>> >>
>>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>> >>
>>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>per:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>> >>into the ASF.
>>> >>
>>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>> >>software grant on this:
>>> >>
>>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>> >>CC me?
>>> >>
>>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>> >>
>>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>> >>
>>> >>Cheers,
>>> >>Chris
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>.
Re a commits email list, Henry said that a commits list was created and I
was able to subscribe to it so it seems like it exists. However, it isn't
showing up at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ but maybe
that's because no email has been sent to it yet (thus no archives).
And when i tried sending an email to it, I got a bounce (see below) but it
looks like it bounced because it only accepts emails from @apache.org email
addresses (and I sent from my gmail address).
Andy
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
> incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
> messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>
> Matei
>
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is great.
>
> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users> google
> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
> lists over to the new ones.
>
> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> make for a smooth transition:
>
> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> 3. At Switch time:
> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
> conversations are moving over to that list.
> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
> new apache lists
>
> Anything else?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >,
>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> >
>> >
>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting next
>> >week.
>> >
>> >
>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >Henry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> >head over to:
>> >
>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >
>> >
>> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>> >
>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> Li
>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Reynold
>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >,
>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>> >,
>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >
>> >>Hi Everyone,
>> >>
>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> >>to this list :)
>> >>
>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> >>
>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> >>
>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> >>
>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>per:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> >>into the ASF.
>> >>
>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> >>software grant on this:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> >>CC me?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> >>
>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ah, got it. I'd prefer not to do this actually because we already had separate dev and issues lists before we moved to Apache. It could be annoying for people to add new filters that deal with them as one list.
Matei
On Jun 25, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Matei,
>
> Some podlings have JIRA messages delivered to dev@ list. Maybe we could
> have issues@ later. I think for now we could just use dev@ list as
> reservoir for JIRA notifications.
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
>> incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
>> messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>>
>> Matei
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is great.
>>>
>>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users google
>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>>
>>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> mailing lists over to the new ones.
>>>
>>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> make for a smooth transition:
>>> Request users list on apache infra (done)
>>> Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>>> At Switch time:
>>> Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links to the
>> new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>>> Update the website with links to the new lists
>>> Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new apache
>> lists
>>> Anything else?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> Li
>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>>> ,
>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>>> ,
>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
>>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
>>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>
>>>> Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The mailing lists are ready:
>>>> dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>> commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>>> dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>> commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>>> private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>>>> only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>> next
>>>> week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Henry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>>>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>>> Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>>> head over to:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>>>
>>>> I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>>> karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>>> infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>>>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>>>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> Li
>>>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Reynold
>>>> Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>>>> <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>>>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>>>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <
>> ravip@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>>>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>>>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>>>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>>> ,
>>>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>>>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
>>>> Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>>> to this list :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>>>
>>>>> Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>>> ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> per:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>>> putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>>> I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>>> mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>>> in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>>> email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>>> history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>>> into the ASF.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>>> software grant on this:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>>> the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>>> CC me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>>> help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>>> and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Yep right now should go to dev list.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:10 AM
To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>Hi Matei,
>
>Some podlings have JIRA messages delivered to dev@ list. Maybe we could
>have issues@ later. I think for now we could just use dev@ list as
>reservoir for JIRA notifications.
>
>- Henry
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Matei Zaharia
><ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
>> incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
>> messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>>
>> Matei
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This is great.
>> >
>> > Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users
>>google
>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>somewhere
>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>> >
>> > Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>> mailing lists over to the new ones.
>> >
>> > As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>> make for a smooth transition:
>> > Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> > Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> > At Switch time:
>> > Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links to
>>the
>> new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> > Update the website with links to the new lists
>> > Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
>>apache
>> lists
>> > Anything else?
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> > CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>> >
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > Senior Computer Scientist
>> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> > To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> > <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> > <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> Li
>> > <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> > <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> > <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>Ryan
>> > LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >,
>> > Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> > <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> > Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> > <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>> >,
>> > Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>> > Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> > <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>> > "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>Shaposhnik
>> > <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> > (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >
>> > >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >The mailing lists are ready:
>> > >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> > >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>and
>> > >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>> next
>> > >week.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Henry
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> > ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Hi Everyone,
>> > >
>> > >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> > >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> > >head over to:
>> > >
>> > >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> > >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> > >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers,
>> > >Chris
>> > >
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > >Senior Computer Scientist
>> > >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> > >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> > ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> > ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>Haoyuan
>> Li
>> > ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Reynold
>> > >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> > ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> > ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> > ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>Ryan
>> > >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <
>> ravip@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>> > >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> > ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> > >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> > ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>> >,
>> > >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>> > >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> > ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>><se...@webtrends.com>
>> > >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> > >
>> > >>Hi Everyone,
>> > >>
>> > >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> > >>to this list :)
>> > >>
>> > >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> > >>
>> > >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> > >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> > >>
>> > >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>per:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> > >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> > >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> > >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> > >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> > >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> > >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> > >>into the ASF.
>> > >>
>> > >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> > >>software grant on this:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> > >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> > >>CC me?
>> > >>
>> > >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> > >>
>> > >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> > >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> > >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> > >>
>> > >>Cheers,
>> > >>Chris
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> > >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Matei,
Some podlings have JIRA messages delivered to dev@ list. Maybe we could
have issues@ later. I think for now we could just use dev@ list as
reservoir for JIRA notifications.
- Henry
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
> incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
> messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>
> Matei
>
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is great.
> >
> > Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users google
> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
> >
> > Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
> mailing lists over to the new ones.
> >
> > As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
> make for a smooth transition:
> > Request users list on apache infra (done)
> > Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> > At Switch time:
> > Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links to the
> new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
> conversations are moving over to that list.
> > Update the website with links to the new lists
> > Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new apache
> lists
> > Anything else?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > Senior Computer Scientist
> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> > To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> > <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> > <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> Li
> > <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> > Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> > <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> > Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> > <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> > LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >,
> > Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> > <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> Thomas
> > Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> > <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
> >,
> > Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> > Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> > <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
> > "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
> > <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> > (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >
> > >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> > >
> > >
> > >The mailing lists are ready:
> > >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> > >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
> > >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> > >
> > >
> > >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
> next
> > >week.
> > >
> > >
> > >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >Henry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> > ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> > >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> > >head over to:
> > >
> > >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> > >
> > >
> > >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> > >
> > >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> > >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> > >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >Senior Computer Scientist
> > >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> > >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> > ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> > ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> Li
> > ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> Reynold
> > >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> > ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> > ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> > >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> > ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> > >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <
> ravip@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> > >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> > ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> Thomas
> > >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> > ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
> >,
> > >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> > >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> > ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
> > >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> > >
> > >>Hi Everyone,
> > >>
> > >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> > >>to this list :)
> > >>
> > >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> > >>
> > >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> > >>
> > >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> > >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> > >>
> > >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>per:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> > >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> > >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> > >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> > >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> > >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> > >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> > >>into the ASF.
> > >>
> > >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> > >>software grant on this:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> > >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> > >>CC me?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> > >>
> > >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> > >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> > >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >>Senior Computer Scientist
> > >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Matei,
Nope it will automatically get mapped to those lists so please let me know
if you are Git committing but not seeing them go to the lists and I will
double check with infra@ Similarly, JIRA issues should go to dev.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:56 AM
To: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the
>incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit
>messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
>Matei
>
>On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>This is great.
>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users
><https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users> google group. Can
>we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere to migrate
>that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>mailing lists over to the new ones.
>
>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>make for a smooth transition:
>
>1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>
>2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>3. At Switch time:
> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
>to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
>conversations are moving over to that list.
> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
>apache lists
>
>
>
>Anything else?
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>Senior Computer Scientist
>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>
>Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
>Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
>Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>
><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
>"Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
><rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>(398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
>>Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>>
>>
>>The mailing lists are ready:
>>dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>
>>private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>You can subscribe by sending email to:
>>dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>>private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>>only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>>
>>
>>Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting next
>>week.
>>
>>
>>For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Henry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>>Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>>head over to:
>>
>>http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>
>>
>>Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>>
>>I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>>karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>>infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Chris
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>Senior Computer Scientist
>>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>>To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
>><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>>Reynold
>>Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>>LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>>Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>Thomas
>>Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
>>Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>>Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
>>Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>>>Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>>>to this list :)
>>>
>>>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>>>
>>>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>>>
>>>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>>>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>>>
>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>>>
>>>
>>>per:
>>>
>>>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>>>
>>>
>>>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>>>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>>>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>>>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>>>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>>>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>>>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>>>into the ASF.
>>>
>>>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>>>software grant on this:
>>>
>>>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>>>
>>>
>>>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>>>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>>>CC me?
>>>
>>>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>>>
>>>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>>>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>>>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>Senior Computer Scientist
>>>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Matei Zaharia <ma...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, similarly to the users list, we asked for a "commits" one on the incubator proposal, where we'll hopefully set up Git to email commit messages. Do we have to request these specifically with JIRAs on INFRA?
Matei
On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is great.
>
> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a spark-users google group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing lists over to the new ones.
>
> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help make for a smooth transition:
> Request users list on apache infra (done)
> Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> At Switch time:
> Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all conversations are moving over to that list.
> Update the website with links to the new lists
> Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new apache lists
> Anything else?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >
> >
> >The mailing lists are ready:
> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >
> >
> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting next
> >week.
> >
> >
> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Henry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >head over to:
> >
> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >
> >
> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> >
> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Chris
> >
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold
> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >
> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >>to this list :)
> >>
> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >>
> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >>
> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >>
> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >>
> >>
> >>per:
> >>
> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >>
> >>
> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >>into the ASF.
> >>
> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >>software grant on this:
> >>
> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>
> >>
> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >>CC me?
> >>
> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >>
> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>Senior Computer Scientist
> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
I am +1 to create a user list too since Spark has a bunch of users,
but also thank you for providing the rationale Henry which is why
in the Incubator typically we discourage the creation of user lists.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:09 AM
To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>Hi Andy,
>
>Usually new Apache incubator has dev@ list without users@ to make sure all
>the effort and discussion focused in one mailing list. But Spark, and like
>several other podlings, already have enough users that warrant creation of
>users@ list.
>
>I am +1 to create that list if all think that its the way to go.
>
>- Henry
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Andy Konwinski
><an...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This is great.
>>
>> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>> google
>> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have
>>somewhere
>> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>>
>> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the
>>mailing
>> lists over to the new ones.
>>
>> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>>make
>> for a smooth transition:
>>
>> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
>> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
>> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
>> 3. At Switch time:
>> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with
>>links
>> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>> saying all
>> conversations are moving over to that list.
>> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
>> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the
>>new
>> apache lists
>>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> > CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>> >
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > Senior Computer Scientist
>> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> > To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> > <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> > <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>> Li
>> > <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> > <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> > <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>Ryan
>> > LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >,
>> > Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> > <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> > Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> > <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>> >,
>> > Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>> > Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> > <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>><se...@webtrends.com>,
>> > "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman
>>Shaposhnik
>> > <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> > (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >
>> > >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >The mailing lists are ready:
>> > >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> > >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> > >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated
>>and
>> > >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>> next
>> > >week.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Henry
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> > ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Hi Everyone,
>> > >
>> > >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> > >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> > >head over to:
>> > >
>> > >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> > >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> > >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers,
>> > >Chris
>> > >
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > >Senior Computer Scientist
>> > >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> > >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> > ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> > ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>>Haoyuan
>> Li
>> > ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > Reynold
>> > >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> > ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> > ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss
>><ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> > >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> > ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>,
>>Ryan
>> > >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <
>> ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> > >,
>> > >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> > ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> > Thomas
>> > >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> > ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><stephen.haberman@gmail.com
>> >,
>> > >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang
>><sh...@gmail.com>,
>> > >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> > ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara
>><se...@webtrends.com>
>> > >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> > >
>> > >>Hi Everyone,
>> > >>
>> > >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> > >>to this list :)
>> > >>
>> > >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> > >>
>> > >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> > >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> > >>
>> > >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>per:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> > >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> > >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> > >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> > >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> > >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> > >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> > >>into the ASF.
>> > >>
>> > >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> > >>software grant on this:
>> > >>
>> > >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> > >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> > >>CC me?
>> > >>
>> > >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> > >>
>> > >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> > >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> > >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> > >>
>> > >>Cheers,
>> > >>Chris
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> > >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> > >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> > >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> > >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> > >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> > >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andy,
Usually new Apache incubator has dev@ list without users@ to make sure all
the effort and discussion focused in one mailing list. But Spark, and like
several other podlings, already have enough users that warrant creation of
users@ list.
I am +1 to create that list if all think that its the way to go.
- Henry
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> This is great.
>
> Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
> spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
> google
> group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
> to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
>
> Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
> lists over to the new ones.
>
> As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help make
> for a smooth transition:
>
> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> 3. At Switch time:
> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
> saying all
> conversations are moving over to that list.
> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
> apache lists
>
> Anything else?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> > CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > Senior Computer Scientist
> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> > To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> > <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> > <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> Li
> > <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> > Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> > <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> > Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> > <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> > LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >,
> > Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> > <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> Thomas
> > Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> > <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
> >,
> > Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> > Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> > <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
> > "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
> > <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> > (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >
> > >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> > >
> > >
> > >The mailing lists are ready:
> > >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> > >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> > >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
> > >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> > >
> > >
> > >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
> next
> > >week.
> > >
> > >
> > >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >Henry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> > ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> > >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> > >head over to:
> > >
> > >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> > >
> > >
> > >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> > >
> > >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> > >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> > >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >Senior Computer Scientist
> > >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> > >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> > >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> > ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> > ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
> Li
> > ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> > Reynold
> > >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> > ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> > ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> > >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> > ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> > >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <
> ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> > >,
> > >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> > ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> > Thomas
> > >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> > ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <stephen.haberman@gmail.com
> >,
> > >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> > >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> > ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
> > >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> > >
> > >>Hi Everyone,
> > >>
> > >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> > >>to this list :)
> > >>
> > >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> > >>
> > >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> > >>
> > >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> > >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> > >>
> > >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>per:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> > >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> > >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> > >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> > >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> > >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> > >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> > >>into the ASF.
> > >>
> > >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> > >>software grant on this:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> > >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> > >>CC me?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> > >>
> > >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> > >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> > >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Chris
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >>Senior Computer Scientist
> > >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Mailing list transition (was Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!)
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Andy,
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:18 AM
To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" <de...@spark.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>This is great.
>
>Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
>spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
>google
>group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
>to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
OK, cool yeah I think I requested commits and dev as lists earlier, but
didn't request a user one. To request a new list, you go here:
https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator
Did you request a list yet? Should i?
(BTW sorry about the delay in responding was at a DARPA meeting all week in
DC an am just back in California now catching up on everything).
>
>Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
>lists over to the new ones.
>
>As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help
>make
>for a smooth transition:
>
> 1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
> 2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
> users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
> 3. At Switch time:
> 1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
> to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note
>saying all
> conversations are moving over to that list.
> 2. Update the website with links to the new lists
> 3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
> apache lists
Perfect! That's correct Andy.
Cheers,
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
>> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>Li
>> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>><ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
>> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>>Thomas
>> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><st...@gmail.com>,
>> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
>> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
>> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
>> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>>
>> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
>> >
>> >
>> >The mailing lists are ready:
>> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
>> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
>> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
>> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting
>>next
>> >week.
>> >
>> >
>> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >Henry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
>> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
>> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
>> >head over to:
>> >
>> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >
>> >
>> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
>> >
>> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
>> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
>> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >Senior Computer Scientist
>> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
>> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
>> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
>> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan
>>Li
>> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
>> Reynold
>> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
>> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
>> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
>> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
>> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
>> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya
>><ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
>> >,
>> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
>> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
>> Thomas
>> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
>> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman
>><st...@gmail.com>,
>> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
>> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
>> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
>> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>> >
>> >>Hi Everyone,
>> >>
>> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
>> >>to this list :)
>> >>
>> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
>> >>
>> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
>> >>
>> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
>> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
>> >>
>> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>per:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
>> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
>> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
>> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
>> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
>> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
>> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
>> >>into the ASF.
>> >>
>> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
>> >>software grant on this:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
>> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
>> >>CC me?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
>> >>
>> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
>> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
>> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >>Senior Computer Scientist
>> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
Posted by Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>.
This is great.
Quick question about mailing lists: Spark also has a
spark-users<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/spark-users>
google
group. Can we also get a users@spark.i.a.o mailing list to have somewhere
to migrate that group? Do I need to create an infra issue for this?
Also, we should discuss a strategy, and timeline for migrating the mailing
lists over to the new ones.
As far as a strategy, here are the steps I can think of that will help make
for a smooth transition:
1. Request users list on apache infra (done)
2. Pick a day/time for the switch (how about July 1, assuming
users@spark.i.a.o is set up by then)
3. At Switch time:
1. Make announcements on the dev and users mailing lists with links
to the new lists, instructions on how to subscribe, and a note saying all
conversations are moving over to that list.
2. Update the website with links to the new lists
3. Enable an auto responders on those lists with pointers to the new
apache lists
Anything else?
Andy
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> CC'ing dev@spark.i.a.o: our first email to the dev list! :)
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:51 PM
> To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> <an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
> <ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> Shivaram Venkataraman <sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> <mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> <pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ra...@exchange.microsoft.com>,
> Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> <ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>, Thomas
> Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> <ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
> Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> <ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>,
> "Ramirez, Paul M (398J)" <pa...@jpl.nasa.gov>, Roman Shaposhnik
> <rv...@apache.org>, Suresh Marru <sm...@apache.org>, "Hart, Andrew F
> (398J)" <An...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: Apache Spark podling: Created!
>
> >Thanks for driving this forward Chris, awesome as usual! =)
> >
> >
> >The mailing lists are ready:
> >dev@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >commits@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >private@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >You can subscribe by sending email to:
> >dev-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >commits-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org
> >private-subscribe@spark.incubator.apache.org -> This is moderated and
> >only Sparks' committers, PPMC could subscribe to it.
> >
> >
> >Hopefully we could start communicating using the dev@ list starting next
> >week.
> >
> >
> >For those new to ASF, welcome! =)
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Henry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
> ><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >Just to double check: does everyone have an Apache Individual
> >Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) on file? If you don't please
> >head over to:
> >
> >http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >
> >
> >Please fill that out and then submit to secretary@apache.org
> >
> >I'll make sure that everyone's account gets created and that
> >karma for the Git repo is set up based on that, working with
> >infra. I or any of the other mentors can help with this too.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Chris
> >
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >Senior Computer Scientist
> >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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> >Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: <Mattmann>, jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:16 PM
> >To: jpluser <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> >Cc: Matt Massie <ma...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Reynold Xin
> ><rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Matei Zaharia <ma...@apache.org>, Ankur Dave
> ><an...@gmail.com>, Tathagata Das <td...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Haoyuan Li
> ><ha...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Josh Rosen <jo...@cs.berkeley.edu>,
> Reynold
> >Xin <rx...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Shivaram Venkataraman
> ><sh...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Mosharaf Chowdhury
> ><mo...@cs.berkeley.edu>, Charles Reiss <ch...@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
> >Andy Konwinski <an...@gmail.com>, Patrick Wendell
> ><pw...@eecs.berkeley.edu>, Imran Rashid <im...@quantifind.com>, Ryan
> >LeCompte <le...@gmail.com>, Ravi Pandya <ravip@exchange.microsoft.com
> >,
> >Ram Sriharsha <ha...@yahoo-inc.com>, Robert Evans
> ><ev...@yahoo-inc.com>, Mridul Muralidharan <mr...@yahoo-inc.com>,
> Thomas
> >Dudziak <to...@clearstorydata.com>, Mark Hamstra
> ><ma...@clearstorydata.com>, Stephen Haberman <st...@gmail.com>,
> >Jason Dai <ja...@intel.com>, Shane Huang <sh...@gmail.com>,
> >Andrew xia <xi...@gmail.com>, Nick Pentreath
> ><ni...@gmail.com>, Sean McNamara <se...@webtrends.com>
> >Subject: Apache Spark podling: Created!
> >
> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>Until our mailing lists are created, will have to just reply all
> >>to this list :)
> >>
> >>Apache Spark (incubating) now is created! See:
> >>
> >>http://s.apache.org/yRh
> >>
> >>Yay! Thanks for the support in getting this started! I've gone
> >>ahead and filed the requisite INFRA tasks:
> >>
> >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6417
> >>
> >>
> >>per:
> >>
> >>http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling
> >>
> >>
> >>You can follow the bootstrap process at INFRA-6417, by
> >>putting yourself on the watch list for the issue. Now
> >>I'll work with infra@ to get everything set up in terms of
> >>mailing lists, etc, and then I'd appreciate everyone helping
> >>in terms of letting folks know to migrate on the existing
> >>email lists, and helping to work with me to get Git version
> >>history transferred over, and to start moving the project
> >>into the ASF.
> >>
> >>One other thing, Matei: it would be really nice to do a
> >>software grant on this:
> >>
> >>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >>
> >>
> >>From maybe AMPLab (and anyone else). Can you help take
> >>the lead in getting that submitted to the Apache Secretary and
> >>CC me?
> >>
> >>Thanks guys! Progress :)
> >>
> >>Our first Incubator PMC report is due in July. I'll prod and
> >>help put it together. Until then, time to start transitioning
> >>and helping to get the project moved on over.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >>Senior Computer Scientist
> >>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >>Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >>Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >>WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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> >>Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >>University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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