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Posted to dev@lucy.apache.org by Peter Karman <pe...@peknet.com> on 2010/07/02 14:14:34 UTC
Re: [Lucy] Revisions to Incubator proposal
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 7/1/10 12:08 PM:
> ... but I'm dissatisfied with the second half:
>
> We acknowledge that Apache seems like a natural home for Lucy given that
> it is also the home of Lucene, and speculate that this may have been on
> the minds of the Lucene PMC when Lucy was green-lighted as a sub-project.
> More importantly, though, the Lucy development community strongly believes
> that The Apache Way is right for Lucy.
>
> First, this passage only asserts that we believe in The Apache Way rather than
> demonstrating our understanding of it. We should "show, not tell". Second,
> we should purge the PMC mind reading. Who knows what they were thinking! :)
> Third, I don't want to leave in any mention of Lucy belonging at Apache because
> Lucene is there, too. That's Lucy sponging off the Lucene brand, and it's not
> a benefit to Apache. We should just leave that unstated and stand on our
> merits.
+1 to all your points. Nuke that second half.
> The Community section does a fine job of identifying our challenges and
> presenting a plan:
>
> Lucy currently has a small community, most members of which originated in the
> KinoSearch community.
>
> Lucy's chief challenge is growing its community, which it hopes to achieve
> through efforts in two areas: reaching a 1.0 release, and actively reaching
> out to its target audience, users and developers in the dynamic language
> communities who want a fast, scalable full-text search solution in their
> native language.
>
> Still, I think we deserve a little more credit. We've taken a lot of flak
> regarding the size of the Lucy community, but you know, if you consider how
> the *KinoSearch* community has operated over the years, we haven't done so
> bad.
+1 for mentioning KS, since *that* is the code that is being donated.
> The one thing I don't think we've done well (and this is my fault) is handle
> releases and backwards compatibility.
I agree with what Nate said on this. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
> Lastly, it would be nice to cover our contingency plan of growing the
> community and coming back with a bigger committer list at some later date.
> However, I think that may arise naturally during the discussion, and it's
> probably too big a topic to squeeze in.
>
+1 on Nate's comments here.
I'm afk most of the day today (Friday), Marvin. I'm fine with the proposal as it
written at the moment; it looks like you've already addressed most of the points
above in your edits from last night.
cheers on a hard week's work!
pek
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