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Posted to dev@stanbol.apache.org by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com> on 2013/09/02 15:14:24 UTC
Re: Stanbol with ElasticSearch
Hi Joseph
I do not have plans to add an elastic search Yard to the Entiyhub, but
I would definitely be (very) supportive to someone that wants to
implement such a component.
best
Rupert
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Fabian Christ
<ch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> who do you mean when you say "you" ;-) As any Apache project the Stanbol
> community cares more about people than code. So if you are willing to
> contribute, then you are more than welcome. If you want support for some
> great new feature, the best is to get engaged and work on it and provide
> the support.
>
> I have no technical knowledge about elastic search but it sound like an
> interesting extension for the Entityhub or which component did you have in
> mind?
>
> Best,
> - Fabian
> Am 30.08.2013 15:05 schrieb "Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene" <jb...@object-ive.com>:
>
>> Hello every body, hope i'm not spamming, but with my co-workers we are
>> working with ElasticSearch for quite a time now and i can definitely see an
>> implementation of the Entityhub based on it.
>>
>> What do you think about that. Is there any plan for that ?
>> In the very hypothetical case our company wants to invest resource on such
>> a feature, would you support it ?
>>
>> Best regards, Joseph
>>
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Re: Stanbol with ElasticSearch
Posted by Andrea Di Menna <ni...@gmail.com>.
Solr 4.4.0 supports schema-less mode as well :)
Maybe the community should focus on supporting that version of Solr first?
:)
Cheers
Andrea
2013/9/5 Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene <jb...@object-ive.com>
> Sorry for not answering. Ahah actually i don't much more elaborate reason
> than "ElasticSearch is cool".
> I don't know them in depth enough but since it seems to be increasingly
> used and in the company i work, pretty much every thing is migrating to
> ElasticSearch, i figured it would be nice to have an ElasticSearch yard to
> put every data in the same place.
>
> Besides the schemaless thing and a supposed (as far as i'm concerned)
> better scalability i have to admit don't know much about the differences
> and you are making me doubt about the relevance of such a feature.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Sergio Fernández <
> sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
>
> > So...? Beyond trying to cut the discussion on the proposal, my intent was
> > to hear arguments in its favour ;-)
> >
> >
> > On 02/09/13 15:58, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> the proposal sounds cool, indeed. But I'd like to have more arguments
> >> than a mere trend because a new product appeared.
> >>
> >> I know some of those arguments in favour Elastic Search vs. Apache Solr.
> >> But, from my understanding, Stanbol just uses Solr because is internally
> >> convenient for what the EntityHub and other components need. And,
> >> although the REST API is publicly exposed, that's not its main purpose,
> >> and could be removed without affecting any core feature.
> >>
> >> Therefore, I'd be happy to listen some arguments that such contribution
> >> would actually improve something in Stanbol. Could be performance,
> >> flexibility, etc, but something more than "Elastic Search is cool!", you
> >> know.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/09/13 15:14, Rupert Westenthaler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Joseph
> >>>
> >>> I do not have plans to add an elastic search Yard to the Entiyhub, but
> >>> I would definitely be (very) supportive to someone that wants to
> >>> implement such a component.
> >>>
> >>> best
> >>> Rupert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Fabian Christ
> >>> <ch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> who do you mean when you say "you" ;-) As any Apache project the
> Stanbol
> >>>> community cares more about people than code. So if you are willing to
> >>>> contribute, then you are more than welcome. If you want support for
> some
> >>>> great new feature, the best is to get engaged and work on it and
> provide
> >>>> the support.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no technical knowledge about elastic search but it sound like
> an
> >>>> interesting extension for the Entityhub or which component did you
> >>>> have in
> >>>> mind?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> - Fabian
> >>>> Am 30.08.2013 15:05 schrieb "Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene"
> >>>> <jb...@object-ive.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello every body, hope i'm not spamming, but with my co-workers we
> are
> >>>>> working with ElasticSearch for quite a time now and i can definitely
> >>>>> see an
> >>>>> implementation of the Entityhub based on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think about that. Is there any plan for that ?
> >>>>> In the very hypothetical case our company wants to invest resource
> >>>>> on such
> >>>>> a feature, would you support it ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards, Joseph
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > --
> > Sergio Fernández
> > Salzburg Research
> > +43 662 2288 318
> > Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
> > A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
> > http://www.salzburgresearch.at
> >
>
Re: Stanbol with ElasticSearch
Posted by Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene <jb...@object-ive.com>.
Sorry for not answering. Ahah actually i don't much more elaborate reason
than "ElasticSearch is cool".
I don't know them in depth enough but since it seems to be increasingly
used and in the company i work, pretty much every thing is migrating to
ElasticSearch, i figured it would be nice to have an ElasticSearch yard to
put every data in the same place.
Besides the schemaless thing and a supposed (as far as i'm concerned)
better scalability i have to admit don't know much about the differences
and you are making me doubt about the relevance of such a feature.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Sergio Fernández <
sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
> So...? Beyond trying to cut the discussion on the proposal, my intent was
> to hear arguments in its favour ;-)
>
>
> On 02/09/13 15:58, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the proposal sounds cool, indeed. But I'd like to have more arguments
>> than a mere trend because a new product appeared.
>>
>> I know some of those arguments in favour Elastic Search vs. Apache Solr.
>> But, from my understanding, Stanbol just uses Solr because is internally
>> convenient for what the EntityHub and other components need. And,
>> although the REST API is publicly exposed, that's not its main purpose,
>> and could be removed without affecting any core feature.
>>
>> Therefore, I'd be happy to listen some arguments that such contribution
>> would actually improve something in Stanbol. Could be performance,
>> flexibility, etc, but something more than "Elastic Search is cool!", you
>> know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> On 02/09/13 15:14, Rupert Westenthaler wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joseph
>>>
>>> I do not have plans to add an elastic search Yard to the Entiyhub, but
>>> I would definitely be (very) supportive to someone that wants to
>>> implement such a component.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Rupert
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Fabian Christ
>>> <ch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> who do you mean when you say "you" ;-) As any Apache project the Stanbol
>>>> community cares more about people than code. So if you are willing to
>>>> contribute, then you are more than welcome. If you want support for some
>>>> great new feature, the best is to get engaged and work on it and provide
>>>> the support.
>>>>
>>>> I have no technical knowledge about elastic search but it sound like an
>>>> interesting extension for the Entityhub or which component did you
>>>> have in
>>>> mind?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> - Fabian
>>>> Am 30.08.2013 15:05 schrieb "Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene"
>>>> <jb...@object-ive.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hello every body, hope i'm not spamming, but with my co-workers we are
>>>>> working with ElasticSearch for quite a time now and i can definitely
>>>>> see an
>>>>> implementation of the Entityhub based on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think about that. Is there any plan for that ?
>>>>> In the very hypothetical case our company wants to invest resource
>>>>> on such
>>>>> a feature, would you support it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Sergio Fernández
> Salzburg Research
> +43 662 2288 318
> Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
> A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
> http://www.salzburgresearch.at
>
Re: Stanbol with ElasticSearch
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
So...? Beyond trying to cut the discussion on the proposal, my intent
was to hear arguments in its favour ;-)
On 02/09/13 15:58, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the proposal sounds cool, indeed. But I'd like to have more arguments
> than a mere trend because a new product appeared.
>
> I know some of those arguments in favour Elastic Search vs. Apache Solr.
> But, from my understanding, Stanbol just uses Solr because is internally
> convenient for what the EntityHub and other components need. And,
> although the REST API is publicly exposed, that's not its main purpose,
> and could be removed without affecting any core feature.
>
> Therefore, I'd be happy to listen some arguments that such contribution
> would actually improve something in Stanbol. Could be performance,
> flexibility, etc, but something more than "Elastic Search is cool!", you
> know.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 02/09/13 15:14, Rupert Westenthaler wrote:
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> I do not have plans to add an elastic search Yard to the Entiyhub, but
>> I would definitely be (very) supportive to someone that wants to
>> implement such a component.
>>
>> best
>> Rupert
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Fabian Christ
>> <ch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> who do you mean when you say "you" ;-) As any Apache project the Stanbol
>>> community cares more about people than code. So if you are willing to
>>> contribute, then you are more than welcome. If you want support for some
>>> great new feature, the best is to get engaged and work on it and provide
>>> the support.
>>>
>>> I have no technical knowledge about elastic search but it sound like an
>>> interesting extension for the Entityhub or which component did you
>>> have in
>>> mind?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> - Fabian
>>> Am 30.08.2013 15:05 schrieb "Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene"
>>> <jb...@object-ive.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hello every body, hope i'm not spamming, but with my co-workers we are
>>>> working with ElasticSearch for quite a time now and i can definitely
>>>> see an
>>>> implementation of the Entityhub based on it.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think about that. Is there any plan for that ?
>>>> In the very hypothetical case our company wants to invest resource
>>>> on such
>>>> a feature, would you support it ?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Joseph
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at
Re: Stanbol with ElasticSearch
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Hi,
the proposal sounds cool, indeed. But I'd like to have more arguments
than a mere trend because a new product appeared.
I know some of those arguments in favour Elastic Search vs. Apache Solr.
But, from my understanding, Stanbol just uses Solr because is internally
convenient for what the EntityHub and other components need. And,
although the REST API is publicly exposed, that's not its main purpose,
and could be removed without affecting any core feature.
Therefore, I'd be happy to listen some arguments that such contribution
would actually improve something in Stanbol. Could be performance,
flexibility, etc, but something more than "Elastic Search is cool!", you
know.
Cheers,
On 02/09/13 15:14, Rupert Westenthaler wrote:
> Hi Joseph
>
> I do not have plans to add an elastic search Yard to the Entiyhub, but
> I would definitely be (very) supportive to someone that wants to
> implement such a component.
>
> best
> Rupert
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Fabian Christ
> <ch...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> who do you mean when you say "you" ;-) As any Apache project the Stanbol
>> community cares more about people than code. So if you are willing to
>> contribute, then you are more than welcome. If you want support for some
>> great new feature, the best is to get engaged and work on it and provide
>> the support.
>>
>> I have no technical knowledge about elastic search but it sound like an
>> interesting extension for the Entityhub or which component did you have in
>> mind?
>>
>> Best,
>> - Fabian
>> Am 30.08.2013 15:05 schrieb "Joseph M'Bimbi-Bene" <jb...@object-ive.com>:
>>
>>> Hello every body, hope i'm not spamming, but with my co-workers we are
>>> working with ElasticSearch for quite a time now and i can definitely see an
>>> implementation of the Entityhub based on it.
>>>
>>> What do you think about that. Is there any plan for that ?
>>> In the very hypothetical case our company wants to invest resource on such
>>> a feature, would you support it ?
>>>
>>> Best regards, Joseph
>>>
>
>
>
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at