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Posted to community@apache.org by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> on 2003/07/11 17:33:14 UTC

Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:

> Why the obsession with email?

push vs. pull

example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
will read it is much lower.

another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.

This is what I would like to see:

 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
non-so-project stuff.

 2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org

 3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]

What do you think?

-- 
Stefano.



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[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
All,

Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been
passed without a dissenting voice.
"The ayes have it !"

So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on.
(ApacheWiki, etc.)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts
and
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1

Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/

If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me
(tetsuya@apache.org)

Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General.
To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html
We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter.

I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for
the articles. Please please help me when the time has come.

-- My Original Intention --

There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all
the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the
Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know 
what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been
unable to monitor all of them themselves.  The editorship of the various
sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a
fairly dynamic newsletter.

There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People
in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe,
however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination*
for something.
I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition
of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well
as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth).
Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter:
there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages.

I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result
of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover
all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. 
Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter
and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work.

We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to
easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi

If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
and fill up what you want to append.


Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are
interested in!!

------------------------------------

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)

P.S.
There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and
'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while.
(not so long)
I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-)

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
(Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003])
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> > Why the obsession with email?
> 
> push vs. pull
> 
> example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
> its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
> and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
> will read it is much lower.
> 
> another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
> carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
> can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
> effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.

-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/



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[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
All,

Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been
passed without a dissenting voice.
"The ayes have it !"

So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on.
(ApacheWiki, etc.)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts
and
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1

Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/

If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me
(tetsuya@apache.org)

Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General.
To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html
We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter.

I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for
the articles. Please please help me when the time has come.

-- My Original Intention --

There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all
the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the
Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know 
what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been
unable to monitor all of them themselves.  The editorship of the various
sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a
fairly dynamic newsletter.

There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People
in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe,
however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination*
for something.
I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition
of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well
as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth).
Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter:
there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages.

I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result
of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover
all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. 
Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter
and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work.

We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to
easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi

If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
and fill up what you want to append.


Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are
interested in!!

------------------------------------

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)

P.S.
There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and
'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while.
(not so long)
I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-)

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
(Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003])
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> > Why the obsession with email?
> 
> push vs. pull
> 
> example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
> its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
> and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
> will read it is much lower.
> 
> another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
> carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
> can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
> effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.

-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/



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[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
All,

Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been
passed without a dissenting voice.
"The ayes have it !"

So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on.
(ApacheWiki, etc.)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts
and
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1

Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/

If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me
(tetsuya@apache.org)

Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General.
To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html
We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter.

I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for
the articles. Please please help me when the time has come.

-- My Original Intention --

There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all
the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the
Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know 
what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been
unable to monitor all of them themselves.  The editorship of the various
sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a
fairly dynamic newsletter.

There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People
in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe,
however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination*
for something.
I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition
of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well
as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth).
Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter:
there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages.

I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result
of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover
all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. 
Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter
and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work.

We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to
easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi

If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
and fill up what you want to append.


Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are
interested in!!

------------------------------------

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)

P.S.
There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and
'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while.
(not so long)
I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
(Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003])
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> > Why the obsession with email?
> 
> push vs. pull
> 
> example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
> its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
> and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
> will read it is much lower.
> 
> another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
> carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
> can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
> effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.

-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/



[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
Dear Apache James Team,

(The original discussion was took place at community@apache.org)



Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been
passed without a dissenting voice.
"The ayes have it !"

So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on.
(ApacheWiki, etc.)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts
and
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1

Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/

If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me
(tetsuya@apache.org)

James Folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html
We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter.

I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for
the articles. Please please help me when the time has come.

-- My Original Intention --

There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all
the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the
Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know 
what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been
unable to monitor all of them themselves.  The editorship of the various
sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a
fairly dynamic newsletter.

There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People
in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe,
however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination*
for something.
I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition
of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well
as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth).
Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter:
there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages.

I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result
of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover
all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. 
Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter
and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work.

We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to
easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi

If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
and fill up what you want to append.


Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are
interested in!!

------------------------------------

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)

P.S.
There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and
'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while.
(not so long)
I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
(Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003])
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> > Why the obsession with email?
> 
> push vs. pull
> 
> example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
> its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
> and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
> will read it is much lower.
> 
> another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
> carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
> can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
> effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.

-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/



Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?

+2

(+1 is the aye for the proposal:
 another +1 is the expression of my will to volunteer)

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)


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[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter

Posted by Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>.
All,

Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been
passed without a dissenting voice.
"The ayes have it !"

So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on.
(ApacheWiki, etc.)
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts
and
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1

Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/

If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me
(tetsuya@apache.org)

Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General.
To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html
We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter.

I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for
the articles. Please please help me when the time has come.

-- My Original Intention --

There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all
the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the
Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know 
what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been
unable to monitor all of them themselves.  The editorship of the various
sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a
fairly dynamic newsletter.

There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People
in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe,
however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination*
for something.
I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition
of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well
as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth).
Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter:
there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages.

I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result
of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover
all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. 
Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter
and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work.

We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to
easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki.
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi

If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
and fill up what you want to append.


Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are
interested in!!

------------------------------------

Sincerely,

-- Tetsuya (tetsuya@apache.org)

P.S.
There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and
'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while.
(not so long)
I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500
(Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003])
Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> > Why the obsession with email?
> 
> push vs. pull
> 
> example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending
> its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog
> and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you
> will read it is much lower.
> 
> another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you
> carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you
> can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires*
> effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower.
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Stefano.

-----------------------------------------------------
Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
http://www.terra-intl.com/
(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/



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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Mads Toftum <ma...@toftum.dk>.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:01:16AM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
> Mads Toftum wrote, On 11/07/2003 18.53:
> ...
> >I like the idea of a (bi-)monthly newsletter, but I'd hate to see it
> >being forced on people who didn't want it.
> 
> Are there a lot of people here on community@apache.org that not want to 
> know, or even care, of what is happening in Apache-land?
> 
> Oh well...
> 
Taken out of context - I was replying to the idea of sending it on announce@
I'd much prefer having a www.apache.org/news/ with a list to subscribe to,
rss feeds and such, and thus not really seeing the need to get it here also,
but thats nothing my procmail can't handle, so do whatever you like.

vh

Mads Toftum
-- 
`Darn it, who spiked my coffee with water?!' - lwall


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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Mads Toftum wrote, On 11/07/2003 18.53:
...
> I like the idea of a (bi-)monthly newsletter, but I'd hate to see it
> being forced on people who didn't want it.

Are there a lot of people here on community@apache.org that not want to 
know, or even care, of what is happening in Apache-land?

Oh well...

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Mads Toftum <ma...@toftum.dk>.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 05:19:26PM +0100, Thom May wrote:
> I'm kinda +0.5; I don't think announce@a.o should be used (Seperation of
> concerns - news summary != announcement), but aside from
> that I think it's a good idea.

Yeah, I'd really prefer that it was a seperate list - announce seems 
wrong for this type of content.
Over the years www.apacheweek.com has done a really good job on the
httpd side - even if it wasn't entirely official.
I like the idea of a (bi-)monthly newsletter, but I'd hate to see it
being forced on people who didn't want it.

vh

Mads Toftum
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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Thom May <th...@debian.org>.
* Stefano Mazzocchi (stefano@apache.org) wrote :
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?
I'm kinda +0.5; I don't think announce@a.o should be used (Seperation of
concerns - news summary != announcement), but aside from
that I think it's a good idea.
-Thom, never having been against the idea of a newsletter, just where it was
being aimed ;-)

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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Tom Copeland <to...@infoether.com>.
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 11:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote:
> 
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?

+1
-- 
Tom Copeland <to...@infoether.com>
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RE: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> >>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> >> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> >> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> >> non-so-project stuff.
> >>
> >>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> >>
> >>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> >>
> >> What do you think?

+1

Since Rob Oxspring started the Jakarta newsletter it has been a fantastic
way for people to keep abreast of other projects progress.
Expanding the concept can only be a Good Thing.

On a personal note I'm in favour of reading short-ish summary contributions
that link to more in-depth material elsewhere, too many words and I won't
have time to digest all of it.

d.



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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Jeff Trawick escribió:
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> 
>> This is what I would like to see:
>>
>>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
>> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
>> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
>> non-so-project stuff.
>>
>>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
>>
>>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> 
> +1
> 

+1

> (though I worry about what the editor(s) will have to suffer through)


The approach by Tetsuya is great: use the wiki as a draft, and post into
the projects lists at given times prompting the people and notifying the
deadlines. If the projects don't "fill in the blanks", it is their problem.

I would like also, but it requires dedicated people, the kind of entries
in the newsletter that I have seen in the linux kernel, commenting on
the interesting threads, etc. And, of course, Steven's weather report. ;-)

Regards
-- 
Santiago Gala
High Sierra Technology, S.L. (http://hisitech.com)
http://memojo.com?page=SantiagoGalaBlog




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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Jeff Trawick <tr...@attglobal.net>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> This is what I would like to see:
> 
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
> 
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
> 
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
> 
> What do you think?

+1

(though I worry about what the editor(s) will have to suffer through)



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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
>in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
>infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
>non-so-project stuff.
>
> 2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
>
> 3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
>
>What do you think?
>

+1

Vadim



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RE: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> This is what I would like to see:

 +1

	--- Noel

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Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
On 11/07/2003, at 05:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>  1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used
> in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including
> infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the
> non-so-project stuff.
>
>  2) the newsletter is sent to announce@apache.org
>
>  3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date]
>
> What do you think?

+1. Amen, brother.

Cheers,
Erik


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