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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org> on 2004/05/27 10:36:28 UTC
SVN and Certificates
As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
svn: Commit failed (details follow):
svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted certificates
like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround is using one of
the mentioned tools and accept the certificate permanently. But this
can't be a final solution, IMO.
Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
--
Reinhard
Re: [OT] SVN and Certificates
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Leszek Gawron wrote:
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
>> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
>> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
>> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>
> Do you know what is subclipse's stability?
Don't know, for some simple tests it worked.
> Still there is no version for svn 1.0 (it is compiled against 0.37
> AFAIU).
> leszek
>
The most recent builds are hidden in the depth of the menus. See
http://subclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=0
where you should find version with support for Subversion 1.0 and
diverent Eclipse versions.
A will keep http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SubversionMigration
up-to-date.
--
Reinhard
[OT] SVN and Certificates
Posted by Leszek Gawron <lg...@mobilebox.pl>.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted certificates
> like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround is using one of
> the mentioned tools and accept the certificate permanently. But this
> can't be a final solution, IMO.
Do you know what is subclipse's stability? Still there is no version for
svn 1.0 (it is compiled against 0.37 AFAIU).
leszek
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
>
> > This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN has
> > yet to mature)
>
> I'm going to take issue with this. :-)
>
> It's *mostly* due to the fact that Subclipse still needs a lot of work.
Me too. The command-line client is brilliant.
And with the SVN Book so handy, what more could one want.
--David
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
>
> > This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN has
> > yet to mature)
>
> I'm going to take issue with this. :-)
>
> It's *mostly* due to the fact that Subclipse still needs a lot of work.
Me too. The command-line client is brilliant.
And with the SVN Book so handy, what more could one want.
--David
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by "Adam R. B. Jack" <aj...@trysybase.com>.
> On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 09:52, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
>
> > This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN
has
> > yet to mature)
>
> I'm going to take issue with this. :-)
>
> It's *mostly* due to the fact that Subclipse still needs a lot of work.
Sure, if Subclipse were there (and had that work you mention) & if it solved
this problem then I'd use it, and be happy. That said, I was forced to give
up on Subclipse, so it doesn't help. :)
The only comment I meant to make about SVN was that it isn't mature enough
to deal with odd 'external factors' (like Eclipse moving directories
containing .svn sub-directories) and with dumb users like me (who've read
the manual scantily at best, and don't have bandwidth to re-join the SVN
mailing list just to ask the occasional question.) Nothing in what SVN does
ought make it want to deal with this mis-use scenario (above), except it is
a fact of this user's life (until I give up on Eclipse, loved 2.x dislike
3.x (over modem), or settle the projects settle down and stop major
refactoring.)
Forgive me for being down on this stuff, I think I've reached my tolerance
point for working over a modem & needs some time off. When SVN works, it
works nicely.
regards,
Adam
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by "Adam R. B. Jack" <aj...@trysybase.com>.
> On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 09:52, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
>
> > This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN
has
> > yet to mature)
>
> I'm going to take issue with this. :-)
>
> It's *mostly* due to the fact that Subclipse still needs a lot of work.
Sure, if Subclipse were there (and had that work you mention) & if it solved
this problem then I'd use it, and be happy. That said, I was forced to give
up on Subclipse, so it doesn't help. :)
The only comment I meant to make about SVN was that it isn't mature enough
to deal with odd 'external factors' (like Eclipse moving directories
containing .svn sub-directories) and with dumb users like me (who've read
the manual scantily at best, and don't have bandwidth to re-join the SVN
mailing list just to ask the occasional question.) Nothing in what SVN does
ought make it want to deal with this mis-use scenario (above), except it is
a fact of this user's life (until I give up on Eclipse, loved 2.x dislike
3.x (over modem), or settle the projects settle down and stop major
refactoring.)
Forgive me for being down on this stuff, I think I've reached my tolerance
point for working over a modem & needs some time off. When SVN works, it
works nicely.
regards,
Adam
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by "Brian W. Fitzpatrick" <fi...@red-bean.com>.
On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 09:52, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
> This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN has
> yet to mature)
I'm going to take issue with this. :-)
It's *mostly* due to the fact that Subclipse still needs a lot of work.
-Fitz
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by "Adam R. B. Jack" <aj...@trysybase.com>.
I had this problem (before I gave up on Subclipse, on M7 over modem). I
think the trick is to run svn to this repository on the commandline first,
and manually accept this. Subclipse doesn't complain after that. (I think
this came up on infra@ a month or more ago, but I'm not sure if there is an
archive to help you.)
FWIIW: I now use SVN commandline outside of Eclipse. It is tolerable, most
of the time. If/when I use Eclipse to refactor and packages (directories)
get moved, the .svn sub-directories get moved around, which completely
pisses off SVN. I've tried all sorts of cleanups (including moving dir out,
svn del/svn commit/manually deleting .svn from dir/moving back/svn add/svn
commit) -- and all are painful.
The biggest problem if I just don't notice when I (and Eclipse) are doing
it/causing it, and that SVN tends to punt when confused (and no amount of
svn cleanup/svn add/svn del can cope). I got in such a mess yesterday my
'fix' was to delete the project and re-checkout. Hardly efficient.
This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN has
yet to mature) and partly that I work over a modem (long story). I am told
things work a little better w/ latest Subclipse and M8/M9, but still not
100% reliably. I've not been lucky enough to get a download to try.
regards,
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>
To: <de...@cocoon.apache.org>
Cc: <fo...@xml.apache.org>; <in...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: SVN and Certificates
> On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> >
> > As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
> > Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
> >
> > svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> > svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
> > svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
> > failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
> >
> >
> > Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
> > certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
> > is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
> > permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
> >
> > Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
>
> Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
> platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
>
> Pier
>
>
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Martin Holz <ho...@fiz-chemie.de>.
Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org> writes:
> Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> >
> > Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
> > platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
AFAIK it won't work with Eclipse 3.0M8 for now. There where some
incompatible changes in the Eclipse Team API and the SubEclipse
waits until those changes are better documenented.
>
> I used Eclipse 2.1.2 under Win2k. IIRC this plugin only works for
> Win2k at the moment.
I got it compiled and running on Linux/Eclipse 2.1.3 using the command line
interface. Don't remember the exact steps :-(. Seems a little bit slow
compared to the svn commmand line client.
Martin
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>>
>> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
>> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>>
>> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
>> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
>> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
>> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>>
>>
>> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
>> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
>> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
>> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>>
>> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
>
>
> Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
> platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
>
> Pier
>
I used Eclipse 2.1.2 under Win2k. IIRC this plugin only works for Win2k
at the moment.
--
Reinhard
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Leszek Gawron <lg...@mobilebox.pl>.
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>>
>> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
>> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>>
>> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
>> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
>> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
>> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>>
>>
>> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
>> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
>> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
>> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>>
>> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
>
>
> Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
> platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
I saw it working on Win32 (Eclipse M7 I think).
lg
--
Leszek Gawron lgawron@mobilebox.pl
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by "Adam R. B. Jack" <aj...@trysybase.com>.
I had this problem (before I gave up on Subclipse, on M7 over modem). I
think the trick is to run svn to this repository on the commandline first,
and manually accept this. Subclipse doesn't complain after that. (I think
this came up on infra@ a month or more ago, but I'm not sure if there is an
archive to help you.)
FWIIW: I now use SVN commandline outside of Eclipse. It is tolerable, most
of the time. If/when I use Eclipse to refactor and packages (directories)
get moved, the .svn sub-directories get moved around, which completely
pisses off SVN. I've tried all sorts of cleanups (including moving dir out,
svn del/svn commit/manually deleting .svn from dir/moving back/svn add/svn
commit) -- and all are painful.
The biggest problem if I just don't notice when I (and Eclipse) are doing
it/causing it, and that SVN tends to punt when confused (and no amount of
svn cleanup/svn add/svn del can cope). I got in such a mess yesterday my
'fix' was to delete the project and re-checkout. Hardly efficient.
This misery is probably partly my own (not being an SVN expert, and SVN has
yet to mature) and partly that I work over a modem (long story). I am told
things work a little better w/ latest Subclipse and M8/M9, but still not
100% reliably. I've not been lucky enough to get a download to try.
regards,
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>
To: <de...@cocoon.apache.org>
Cc: <fo...@xml.apache.org>; <in...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: SVN and Certificates
> On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> >
> > As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
> > Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
> >
> > svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> > svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
> > svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
> > failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
> >
> >
> > Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
> > certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
> > is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
> > permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
> >
> > Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
>
> Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
> platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
>
> Pier
>
>
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>
> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>
>
> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>
> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
Pier
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 27 May 2004, at 09:36, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>
> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>
>
> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>
> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
Did you actually manage to get SubEclipse working???????? :-P What
platform (keeps crashing my Eclipse M8 on MacOS/X)
Pier
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Upayavira wrote:
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>>
>> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
>> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>>
>> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
>> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
>> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
>> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>>
>>
>> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
>> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
>> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
>> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>>
>>
>> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
>
>
> I believe there are plans for a certification server, yes. But there
> may be other ways around it. I'd suggest asking about this on
> infrastructure list.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
>
The initial mail of this thread was addressed to infrastructure <at>
apache.org.
--
Reinhard
Re: SVN and Certificates
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> As Cocoon will move to SVN soon, I tried to work with the latest
> Subclipse client. Unfortunatly I always get an error:
>
> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/test/cz/new'
> svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/test/cz/new': Server certificate verification
> failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.apache.org)
>
>
> Subclipse doesn't offer the possibility to accept untrusted
> certificates like command-line SVN or TortoiseSVN does. A workaround
> is using one of the mentioned tools and accept the certificate
> permanently. But this can't be a final solution, IMO.
>
>
> Are there any plans to setup a valid certificate for svn.apache.org?
I believe there are plans for a certification server, yes. But there may
be other ways around it. I'd suggest asking about this on infrastructure
list.
Regards, Upayavira