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Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Dear all,
I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache
NetBeans 11.0!
Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or
due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were
over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts
from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble
for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as
well.
I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1
quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of
our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
Some Numbers:
In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
13 tasks
The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than
10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release
branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is
not bad, but we have that limit.
I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
next Release Manager easier.
This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
work and support!
Laszlo Kishalmi
Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
always, welcome!
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Josh Juneau <ju...@gmail.com>.
Great job, as always, Laszlo!
Josh Juneau
juneau001@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:22 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0!
>
> Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code, documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
>
> This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
>
> As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as well.
>
> I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1 quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
>
> Some Numbers:
>
> In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement, 13 tasks
>
> The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is not bad, but we have that limit.
>
> I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the next Release Manager easier.
>
> This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their work and support!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
>
> P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as always, welcome!
>
>
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Pete Whelpton <pe...@gmail.com>.
Thank you very much Laszlo! Really appreciated!
P
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 3:44 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Yes, fantastic work, thank you very much!
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:43 PM Junichi Yamamoto <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks a lot for your great work, Laszlo!!!
> >
> > Junichi
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:23 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
> > <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of
> Apache
> > > NetBeans 11.0!
> > >
> > > Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> > > documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
> > >
> > > This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or
> > > due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we
> were
> > > over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of
> February.
> > >
> > > As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> > > staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts
> > > from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble
> > > for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> > > matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1
> > > quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of
> > > our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> > > non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
> > >
> > > Some Numbers:
> > >
> > > In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> > > 13 tasks
> > >
> > > The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more
> than
> > > 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release
> > > branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is
> > > not bad, but we have that limit.
> > >
> > > I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> > > next Release Manager easier.
> > >
> > > This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> > > work and support!
> > >
> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > >
> > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
> > >
> > > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> > > always, welcome!
> > >
> > >
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Yes, fantastic work, thank you very much!
Gj
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:43 PM Junichi Yamamoto <ju...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your great work, Laszlo!!!
>
> Junichi
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:23 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
> <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache
> > NetBeans 11.0!
> >
> > Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> > documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
> >
> > This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or
> > due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were
> > over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
> >
> > As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> > staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts
> > from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble
> > for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as
> > well.
> >
> > I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> > matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1
> > quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of
> > our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> > non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
> >
> > Some Numbers:
> >
> > In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> > 13 tasks
> >
> > The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than
> > 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release
> > branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is
> > not bad, but we have that limit.
> >
> > I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> > next Release Manager easier.
> >
> > This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> > work and support!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
> >
> > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> > always, welcome!
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >
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> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Junichi Yamamoto <ju...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot for your great work, Laszlo!!!
Junichi
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:23 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
<la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache
> NetBeans 11.0!
>
> Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
>
> This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or
> due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were
> over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
>
> As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts
> from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble
> for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as
> well.
>
> I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1
> quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of
> our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
>
> Some Numbers:
>
> In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> 13 tasks
>
> The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than
> 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release
> branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is
> not bad, but we have that limit.
>
> I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> next Release Manager easier.
>
> This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> work and support!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
>
> P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> always, welcome!
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Tushar Joshi <tu...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Laszlo, for the job done very well. You have set a god example
for this process.
with regards
Tushar
Tushar Joshi, Nagpur: http://www.tusharjoshi.com
* MCSD_NET C#, SCJP, RHCE, ZCE, PMP, CSM, SAFe, PRINCE2
* Senior Architect @ Persistent Systems http://www.persistent.com
* LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tusharvjoshi
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 2:21 AM Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> wrote:
> Hear, hear--thank you for the great work, Laszlo!
>
> Maybe the "Update titlebar version" issue (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2111 for 11.0, with
> associated pull request as an example) should also be added to the release
> process list at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052 ?
>
> -- Eirik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 2:17 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating)
> 11.0
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks, Laszlo, for this great work.
>
> Regarding the release process [1], I think we could change steps 24 and 25.
>
> What we have now:
>
> 24. Update the WebSite for the new Release 25. Send out release
> announcement-s
>
> The proposal:
>
> 24. Prepare a PR with the website for the new Release and some screenshots
> for Twitter.
> 25. Publish the website, send out release announcements to mailing lists
> and post to Twitter/elsewhere.
>
> In step 25 we could coordinate to send announcements to mailing lists,
> update the website and make some noise in Twitter and elsewhere. This is
> something that involves many people, and we could coordinate in advance.
> For instance, by sending an email to the mailing lists 24h in advance
> (something like "we'll announce the new release on monday at 12:00 UTC").
>
> Kind regards and thanks again,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> I love this process as documented at:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052
>
>
> El 5/4/19 a las 13:22, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of
> > Apache NetBeans 11.0!
> >
> > Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> > documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
> >
> > This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties
> > or due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we
> > were over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of
> February.
> >
> > As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> > staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the
> > artifacts from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause
> > any trouble for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the
> > future releases as well.
> >
> > I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> > matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an
> > rc1 quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end
> > of our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> > non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
> >
> > Some Numbers:
> >
> > In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> > 13 tasks
> >
> > The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more
> > than 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the
> > release branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year,
> > which is not bad, but we have that limit.
> >
> > I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> > next Release Manager easier.
> >
> > This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> > work and support!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
> >
> > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> > always, welcome!
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail:
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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RE: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
Hear, hear--thank you for the great work, Laszlo!
Maybe the "Update titlebar version" issue ( https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2111 for 11.0, with associated pull request as an example) should also be added to the release process list at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052 ?
-- Eirik
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 2:17 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Hi all,
Thanks, Laszlo, for this great work.
Regarding the release process [1], I think we could change steps 24 and 25.
What we have now:
24. Update the WebSite for the new Release 25. Send out release announcement-s
The proposal:
24. Prepare a PR with the website for the new Release and some screenshots for Twitter.
25. Publish the website, send out release announcements to mailing lists and post to Twitter/elsewhere.
In step 25 we could coordinate to send announcements to mailing lists, update the website and make some noise in Twitter and elsewhere. This is something that involves many people, and we could coordinate in advance.
For instance, by sending an email to the mailing lists 24h in advance (something like "we'll announce the new release on monday at 12:00 UTC").
Kind regards and thanks again,
Antonio
[1]
I love this process as documented at:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052
El 5/4/19 a las 13:22, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of
> Apache NetBeans 11.0!
>
> Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
>
> This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties
> or due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we
> were over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
>
> As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the
> artifacts from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause
> any trouble for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the
> future releases as well.
>
> I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an
> rc1 quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end
> of our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
>
> Some Numbers:
>
> In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> 13 tasks
>
> The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more
> than 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the
> release branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year,
> which is not bad, but we have that limit.
>
> I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> next Release Manager easier.
>
> This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> work and support!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
>
> P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> always, welcome!
>
>
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Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,
Thanks, Laszlo, for this great work.
Regarding the release process [1], I think we could change steps 24 and 25.
What we have now:
24. Update the WebSite for the new Release
25. Send out release announcement-s
The proposal:
24. Prepare a PR with the website for the new Release and some
screenshots for Twitter.
25. Publish the website, send out release announcements to mailing lists
and post to Twitter/elsewhere.
In step 25 we could coordinate to send announcements to mailing lists,
update the website and make some noise in Twitter and elsewhere. This is
something that involves many people, and we could coordinate in advance.
For instance, by sending an email to the mailing lists 24h in advance
(something like "we'll announce the new release on monday at 12:00 UTC").
Kind regards and thanks again,
Antonio
[1]
I love this process as documented at:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052
El 5/4/19 a las 13:22, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache
> NetBeans 11.0!
>
> Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code,
> documentation, advice, or shared opinion!
>
> This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or
> due to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were
> over the shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February.
>
> As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to
> staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts
> from Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble
> for the Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as
> well.
>
> I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually
> matured nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1
> quality. If I were not traveling through the world just at the end of
> our cycle, I would have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor
> non-technical concerns were found out during the voting cycle.
>
> Some Numbers:
>
> In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement,
> 13 tasks
>
> The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than
> 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release
> branch. This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is
> not bad, but we have that limit.
>
> I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the
> next Release Manager easier.
>
> This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their
> work and support!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
>
> P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as
> always, welcome!
>
>
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