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Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized? I'm not
looking for an exact date, just an approximate like (next month, 2
months 6 months,etc)
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
While we are in constant sync due to the merge, lucene would still be
updated multiple times before a solr 4 release, and it would be subject to
happen at any time - so its really not any different.
On Wednesday, December 7, 2011, Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, biggest issue for us is we're using the SolrCloud features.
> While I see some good things related to the Lucene and Solr code bases
> being merged, this is certainly a frustrating aspect of it as I don't
> require some of the changes that are in Lucene 4.0 (withstanding
> anything that SolrCloud requires that is).
>
> I think the best solution (assuming it works) is to try to lock a
> version of Lucene 4.0 while upgrading Solr. I'll have to test to see
> if this works or not, but at least it's something.
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Mike Sokolov <so...@ifactory.com> wrote:
>> My personal view, as a bystander with no more information than you, is
that
>> one has to assume there will be further index format changes before a 4.0
>> release. This is based on the number of changes in the last 9 months,
and
>> the amount of activity on the dev list.
>>
>> For us the implication is we need to stick w/3.x for now. You might be
in a
>> different situation if you really need the 4.0 changes. Maybe you can
just
>> stick w/the current trunk and take responsibility for patching critical
>> bugfixes, hoping you won't have to recreate your index too many times...
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On 12/06/2011 09:48 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose that's fair enough. Some quick googling seems that this has
>>> been asked many times with pretty much the same response. Sorry to
>>> add to the noise.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Darren Govoni<da...@ontrenet.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I asked here[1] and it said "Ask again later."
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/06/2011 08:46 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
>>>>> whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
>>>>> current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
>>>>> built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
>>>>> is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
>>>>> to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
>>>>> implications of using trunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir<rc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson<je...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>>>>>>
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, biggest issue for us is we're using the SolrCloud features.
While I see some good things related to the Lucene and Solr code bases
being merged, this is certainly a frustrating aspect of it as I don't
require some of the changes that are in Lucene 4.0 (withstanding
anything that SolrCloud requires that is).
I think the best solution (assuming it works) is to try to lock a
version of Lucene 4.0 while upgrading Solr. I'll have to test to see
if this works or not, but at least it's something.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Mike Sokolov <so...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> My personal view, as a bystander with no more information than you, is that
> one has to assume there will be further index format changes before a 4.0
> release. This is based on the number of changes in the last 9 months, and
> the amount of activity on the dev list.
>
> For us the implication is we need to stick w/3.x for now. You might be in a
> different situation if you really need the 4.0 changes. Maybe you can just
> stick w/the current trunk and take responsibility for patching critical
> bugfixes, hoping you won't have to recreate your index too many times...
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On 12/06/2011 09:48 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I suppose that's fair enough. Some quick googling seems that this has
>> been asked many times with pretty much the same response. Sorry to
>> add to the noise.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Darren Govoni<da...@ontrenet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I asked here[1] and it said "Ask again later."
>>>
>>> [1] http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/06/2011 08:46 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
>>>> whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
>>>> current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
>>>> built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
>>>> is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
>>>> to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
>>>> implications of using trunk.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir<rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson<je...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> lucidimagination.com
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Mike Sokolov <so...@ifactory.com>.
My personal view, as a bystander with no more information than you, is
that one has to assume there will be further index format changes before
a 4.0 release. This is based on the number of changes in the last 9
months, and the amount of activity on the dev list.
For us the implication is we need to stick w/3.x for now. You might be
in a different situation if you really need the 4.0 changes. Maybe you
can just stick w/the current trunk and take responsibility for patching
critical bugfixes, hoping you won't have to recreate your index too many
times...
-Mike
On 12/06/2011 09:48 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
> I suppose that's fair enough. Some quick googling seems that this has
> been asked many times with pretty much the same response. Sorry to
> add to the noise.
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Darren Govoni<da...@ontrenet.com> wrote:
>
>> I asked here[1] and it said "Ask again later."
>>
>> [1] http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
>>
>>
>> On 12/06/2011 08:46 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
>>> whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
>>> current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
>>> built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
>>> is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
>>> to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
>>> implications of using trunk.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir<rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson<je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>>>>>
>>>> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> lucidimagination.com
>>>>
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com>.
I suppose that's fair enough. Some quick googling seems that this has
been asked many times with pretty much the same response. Sorry to
add to the noise.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Darren Govoni <da...@ontrenet.com> wrote:
> I asked here[1] and it said "Ask again later."
>
> [1] http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
>
>
> On 12/06/2011 08:46 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
>> whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
>> current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
>> built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
>> is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
>> to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
>> implications of using trunk.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir<rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson<je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>>>
>>> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>>>
>>> --
>>> lucidimagination.com
>>>
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Darren Govoni <da...@ontrenet.com>.
I asked here[1] and it said "Ask again later."
[1] http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
On 12/06/2011 08:46 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
> Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
> whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
> current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
> built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
> is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
> to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
> implications of using trunk.
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir<rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson<je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>>
>> --
>> lucidimagination.com
>>
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Robert. Is there a timetable for that? I'm trying to gauge
whether it is appropriate to push for my organization to move to the
current lucene 4.0 implementation (we're using solr cloud which is
built against trunk) or if it's expected there will be changes to what
is currently on trunk. I'm not looking for anything hard, just trying
to plan as much as possible understanding that this is one of the
implications of using trunk.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
>
> it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
>
> --
> lucidimagination.com
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Re: Lucene 4.0 Index Format Finalization Timetable
Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Johnson <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a timetable for when it is expected to be finalized?
it will be finalized when Lucene 4.0 is released.
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