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Posted to dev@activemq.apache.org by Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com> on 2019/09/06 15:33:37 UTC

Re: Artemis past releases page breakages

It would appear that this problem has occurred again.  The past releases
page was partially updated but in all cases the updates were incorrect and
now the download links are broken.  The links to the all broker release
archives themselves point to Apache Archives but the action=download bit at
the end of the URI was not removed.  The links to the checksums and
signatures were not updated to point to archives it seems and so those are
also broken.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Its more that the download links for the previous release themselves
> are broken thats the issue. The docs link is often incorrect too, but
> it tends to at least somewhat 'work' when wrong (from pointing to
> "latest" rather than the actual versions release docs).
>
> I think the existing process needed (copy+paste the previous entry in
> file, find+replace the version number) is actually fairly easy. Its
> just not being followed, and the links also arent being inspected
> afterwards to notice that it wasnt.
>
> Robbie
>
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 17:25, Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Please accept my apologies... I have been on so many channels all at
> > once that I overlooked into this.
> >
> > it would be nice to make this simpler though. I have tried to get rid
> > of the documentation per previous version for instance (you can just
> > download the documentation with the zip).
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:35 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes it is, I even noted I found it was already documented when I went
> > > to add one of the times I was reporting the issue.
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blame/2.8.1/RELEASING.md#L299
> > > (The details are a touch stale now in referring to html of the old
> > > site update process)
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:22, Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > is that step in:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 12:29, Robbie Gemmell <
> robbie.gemmell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've found that the docs/downloads/etc links for recent releases on
> > > > > the past releases page are broken nearly every time I have used the
> > > > > page over the last couple of years. I've fixed it a bunch of times,
> > > > > reported it several times to try and stop it from actually
> happening,
> > > > > and fixed it some more times as it keeps doing so.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is difficult to understand how the same issue keeps happening
> > > > > repeatedly given how trivial the page is to update and how
> quick/easy
> > > > > it is to verify the links while doing so, e.g by hovering over
> them,
> > > > > or actually clicking them like a user might and see them 404 or go
> the
> > > > > wrong place if the files havent been cleared from the mirroring
> area
> > > > > just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the page is proving so troublesome to maintain in working
> order, I
> > > > > think the per-release content might be better jsut removed and only
> > > > > the direct link to the archive parent dir left. Thats where I will
> be
> > > > > going directly in future to save myself the hassle (of noticing the
> > > > > page is broken and feeling I should report it or fix it yet again).
> > > > >
> > > > > Robbie
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
>


-- 
--
Tim Bish

Re: Artemis past releases page breakages

Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
fixed... thanks for bringing it to my attention. I had spent time
looking on the URls but still ended up making a mistake.
Thanks

On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 6:07 PM Clebert Suconic
<cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see.  Sorry about that.  I will fix it later tonight.
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:33 AM Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It would appear that this problem has occurred again.  The past releases
>> page was partially updated but in all cases the updates were incorrect and
>> now the download links are broken.  The links to the all broker release
>> archives themselves point to Apache Archives but the action=download bit at
>> the end of the URI was not removed.  The links to the checksums and
>> signatures were not updated to point to archives it seems and so those are
>> also broken.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Its more that the download links for the previous release themselves
>> > are broken thats the issue. The docs link is often incorrect too, but
>> > it tends to at least somewhat 'work' when wrong (from pointing to
>> > "latest" rather than the actual versions release docs).
>> >
>> > I think the existing process needed (copy+paste the previous entry in
>> > file, find+replace the version number) is actually fairly easy. Its
>> > just not being followed, and the links also arent being inspected
>> > afterwards to notice that it wasnt.
>> >
>> > Robbie
>> >
>> > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 17:25, Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Please accept my apologies... I have been on so many channels all at
>> > > once that I overlooked into this.
>> > >
>> > > it would be nice to make this simpler though. I have tried to get rid
>> > > of the documentation per previous version for instance (you can just
>> > > download the documentation with the zip).
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:35 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes it is, I even noted I found it was already documented when I went
>> > > > to add one of the times I was reporting the issue.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blame/2.8.1/RELEASING.md#L299
>> > > > (The details are a touch stale now in referring to html of the old
>> > > > site update process)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:22, Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > is that step in:
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 12:29, Robbie Gemmell <
>> > robbie.gemmell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I've found that the docs/downloads/etc links for recent releases on
>> > > > > > the past releases page are broken nearly every time I have used the
>> > > > > > page over the last couple of years. I've fixed it a bunch of times,
>> > > > > > reported it several times to try and stop it from actually
>> > happening,
>> > > > > > and fixed it some more times as it keeps doing so.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It is difficult to understand how the same issue keeps happening
>> > > > > > repeatedly given how trivial the page is to update and how
>> > quick/easy
>> > > > > > it is to verify the links while doing so, e.g by hovering over
>> > them,
>> > > > > > or actually clicking them like a user might and see them 404 or go
>> > the
>> > > > > > wrong place if the files havent been cleared from the mirroring
>> > area
>> > > > > > just yet.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As the page is proving so troublesome to maintain in working
>> > order, I
>> > > > > > think the per-release content might be better jsut removed and only
>> > > > > > the direct link to the archive parent dir left. Thats where I will
>> > be
>> > > > > > going directly in future to save myself the hassle (of noticing the
>> > > > > > page is broken and feeling I should report it or fix it yet again).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Robbie
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Clebert Suconic
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Tim Bish
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic



-- 
Clebert Suconic

Re: Artemis past releases page breakages

Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
I see.  Sorry about that.  I will fix it later tonight.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:33 AM Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It would appear that this problem has occurred again.  The past releases
> page was partially updated but in all cases the updates were incorrect and
> now the download links are broken.  The links to the all broker release
> archives themselves point to Apache Archives but the action=download bit at
> the end of the URI was not removed.  The links to the checksums and
> signatures were not updated to point to archives it seems and so those are
> also broken.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Its more that the download links for the previous release themselves
> > are broken thats the issue. The docs link is often incorrect too, but
> > it tends to at least somewhat 'work' when wrong (from pointing to
> > "latest" rather than the actual versions release docs).
> >
> > I think the existing process needed (copy+paste the previous entry in
> > file, find+replace the version number) is actually fairly easy. Its
> > just not being followed, and the links also arent being inspected
> > afterwards to notice that it wasnt.
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 17:25, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Please accept my apologies... I have been on so many channels all at
> > > once that I overlooked into this.
> > >
> > > it would be nice to make this simpler though. I have tried to get rid
> > > of the documentation per previous version for instance (you can just
> > > download the documentation with the zip).
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:35 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> robbie.gemmell@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is, I even noted I found it was already documented when I went
> > > > to add one of the times I was reporting the issue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blame/2.8.1/RELEASING.md#L299
> > > > (The details are a touch stale now in referring to html of the old
> > > > site update process)
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:22, Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > is that step in:
> > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 12:29, Robbie Gemmell <
> > robbie.gemmell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've found that the docs/downloads/etc links for recent releases
> on
> > > > > > the past releases page are broken nearly every time I have used
> the
> > > > > > page over the last couple of years. I've fixed it a bunch of
> times,
> > > > > > reported it several times to try and stop it from actually
> > happening,
> > > > > > and fixed it some more times as it keeps doing so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is difficult to understand how the same issue keeps happening
> > > > > > repeatedly given how trivial the page is to update and how
> > quick/easy
> > > > > > it is to verify the links while doing so, e.g by hovering over
> > them,
> > > > > > or actually clicking them like a user might and see them 404 or
> go
> > the
> > > > > > wrong place if the files havent been cleared from the mirroring
> > area
> > > > > > just yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As the page is proving so troublesome to maintain in working
> > order, I
> > > > > > think the per-release content might be better jsut removed and
> only
> > > > > > the direct link to the archive parent dir left. Thats where I
> will
> > be
> > > > > > going directly in future to save myself the hassle (of noticing
> the
> > > > > > page is broken and feeling I should report it or fix it yet
> again).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robbie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> Tim Bish
>
-- 
Clebert Suconic

Re: Artemis past releases page breakages

Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
I did take extra care and I looked on the last release by double checking
it.


What’s wrong?

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As more of an aside, it isnt really necessary to make any of those
> changes and risk getting it wrong like this...just copy the previous
> entry on the past releases page and find+replace the version numbers
> in that with your text editor of choice, done.
>
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 16:33, Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It would appear that this problem has occurred again.  The past releases
> > page was partially updated but in all cases the updates were incorrect
> and
> > now the download links are broken.  The links to the all broker release
> > archives themselves point to Apache Archives but the action=download bit
> at
> > the end of the URI was not removed.  The links to the checksums and
> > signatures were not updated to point to archives it seems and so those
> are
> > also broken.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Its more that the download links for the previous release themselves
> > > are broken thats the issue. The docs link is often incorrect too, but
> > > it tends to at least somewhat 'work' when wrong (from pointing to
> > > "latest" rather than the actual versions release docs).
> > >
> > > I think the existing process needed (copy+paste the previous entry in
> > > file, find+replace the version number) is actually fairly easy. Its
> > > just not being followed, and the links also arent being inspected
> > > afterwards to notice that it wasnt.
> > >
> > > Robbie
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 17:25, Clebert Suconic <
> clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please accept my apologies... I have been on so many channels all at
> > > > once that I overlooked into this.
> > > >
> > > > it would be nice to make this simpler though. I have tried to get rid
> > > > of the documentation per previous version for instance (you can just
> > > > download the documentation with the zip).
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:35 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> robbie.gemmell@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes it is, I even noted I found it was already documented when I
> went
> > > > > to add one of the times I was reporting the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blame/2.8.1/RELEASING.md#L299
> > > > > (The details are a touch stale now in referring to html of the old
> > > > > site update process)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:22, Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is that step in:
> > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 12:29, Robbie Gemmell <
> > > robbie.gemmell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've found that the docs/downloads/etc links for recent
> releases on
> > > > > > > the past releases page are broken nearly every time I have
> used the
> > > > > > > page over the last couple of years. I've fixed it a bunch of
> times,
> > > > > > > reported it several times to try and stop it from actually
> > > happening,
> > > > > > > and fixed it some more times as it keeps doing so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is difficult to understand how the same issue keeps
> happening
> > > > > > > repeatedly given how trivial the page is to update and how
> > > quick/easy
> > > > > > > it is to verify the links while doing so, e.g by hovering over
> > > them,
> > > > > > > or actually clicking them like a user might and see them 404
> or go
> > > the
> > > > > > > wrong place if the files havent been cleared from the mirroring
> > > area
> > > > > > > just yet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As the page is proving so troublesome to maintain in working
> > > order, I
> > > > > > > think the per-release content might be better jsut removed and
> only
> > > > > > > the direct link to the archive parent dir left. Thats where I
> will
> > > be
> > > > > > > going directly in future to save myself the hassle (of
> noticing the
> > > > > > > page is broken and feeling I should report it or fix it yet
> again).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robbie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Tim Bish
>
-- 
Clebert Suconic

Re: Artemis past releases page breakages

Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>.
As more of an aside, it isnt really necessary to make any of those
changes and risk getting it wrong like this...just copy the previous
entry on the past releases page and find+replace the version numbers
in that with your text editor of choice, done.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 16:33, Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It would appear that this problem has occurred again.  The past releases
> page was partially updated but in all cases the updates were incorrect and
> now the download links are broken.  The links to the all broker release
> archives themselves point to Apache Archives but the action=download bit at
> the end of the URI was not removed.  The links to the checksums and
> signatures were not updated to point to archives it seems and so those are
> also broken.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:44 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Its more that the download links for the previous release themselves
> > are broken thats the issue. The docs link is often incorrect too, but
> > it tends to at least somewhat 'work' when wrong (from pointing to
> > "latest" rather than the actual versions release docs).
> >
> > I think the existing process needed (copy+paste the previous entry in
> > file, find+replace the version number) is actually fairly easy. Its
> > just not being followed, and the links also arent being inspected
> > afterwards to notice that it wasnt.
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 17:25, Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Please accept my apologies... I have been on so many channels all at
> > > once that I overlooked into this.
> > >
> > > it would be nice to make this simpler though. I have tried to get rid
> > > of the documentation per previous version for instance (you can just
> > > download the documentation with the zip).
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:35 AM Robbie Gemmell <ro...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is, I even noted I found it was already documented when I went
> > > > to add one of the times I was reporting the issue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blame/2.8.1/RELEASING.md#L299
> > > > (The details are a touch stale now in referring to html of the old
> > > > site update process)
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:22, Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > is that step in:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/master/RELEASING.md
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 12:29, Robbie Gemmell <
> > robbie.gemmell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've found that the docs/downloads/etc links for recent releases on
> > > > > > the past releases page are broken nearly every time I have used the
> > > > > > page over the last couple of years. I've fixed it a bunch of times,
> > > > > > reported it several times to try and stop it from actually
> > happening,
> > > > > > and fixed it some more times as it keeps doing so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is difficult to understand how the same issue keeps happening
> > > > > > repeatedly given how trivial the page is to update and how
> > quick/easy
> > > > > > it is to verify the links while doing so, e.g by hovering over
> > them,
> > > > > > or actually clicking them like a user might and see them 404 or go
> > the
> > > > > > wrong place if the files havent been cleared from the mirroring
> > area
> > > > > > just yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As the page is proving so troublesome to maintain in working
> > order, I
> > > > > > think the per-release content might be better jsut removed and only
> > > > > > the direct link to the archive parent dir left. Thats where I will
> > be
> > > > > > going directly in future to save myself the hassle (of noticing the
> > > > > > page is broken and feeling I should report it or fix it yet again).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robbie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> Tim Bish