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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> on 2004/05/10 11:59:25 UTC

[OT] Re: Lenya Menu with XUL

Michael Wechner wrote:

> In the case of Mozilla the integration will be very tight, which is what
> Microsoft would do ;-) The enduser will love it and people will say let's
> switch to Mozilla again (and Microsoft will have to start their own XUL).

they did. it is called XAML.

> XUL might not be perfect, but I think it's great and we can learn a lot 
> from it.

http://mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=4671 and

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2004-April/msg00008.html

Nat spoke about some developments at Microsoft - the merging of a bunch 
of teams for Avalon/XAML. Now have a single team for web and native 
desktop rendering. GNOME and Mozilla needs to align to counter this. One 
big fear moment was at the recent Microsoft PDC, with Amazon demoing 
their site written using XAML and pretty compelling reasons for using 
it. Nat believes the options are

  o Gain market share before Longhorn comes along
  o Clone XAML
  o Develop something new, cross-platform, and
  offering a rich web experience as well as a
  great native integration story, and getting
  the big players involved. With this we have
  a single library - the tarball is the standard. If
  we're interested in a unified solution [GTK+ and XUL],
  how do we mix the two? How do we approach cross
  platform, without slowing down the schedule of each
  project?

-- 
Gregor J. Rothfuss
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://wyona.com                   http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
gregor.rothfuss@wyona.com                       gregor@apache.org

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Re: [OT] Re: Lenya Menu with XUL

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:

> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> In the case of Mozilla the integration will be very tight, which is what
>> Microsoft would do ;-) The enduser will love it and people will say 
>> let's
>> switch to Mozilla again (and Microsoft will have to start their own 
>> XUL).
>
>
> they did. it is called XAML.


ah, I didn't know that. I will start reading ;-)

http://longhorn.msdn.microsoft.com/lhsdk/core/overviews/about%20xaml.aspx

Michi





>
>> XUL might not be perfect, but I think it's great and we can learn a 
>> lot from it.
>
>
> http://mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=4671 and
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2004-April/msg00008.html
>
> Nat spoke about some developments at Microsoft - the merging of a 
> bunch of teams for Avalon/XAML. Now have a single team for web and 
> native desktop rendering. GNOME and Mozilla needs to align to counter 
> this. One big fear moment was at the recent Microsoft PDC, with Amazon 
> demoing their site written using XAML and pretty compelling reasons 
> for using it. Nat believes the options are
>
>  o Gain market share before Longhorn comes along
>  o Clone XAML
>  o Develop something new, cross-platform, and
>  offering a rich web experience as well as a
>  great native integration story, and getting
>  the big players involved. With this we have
>  a single library - the tarball is the standard. If
>  we're interested in a unified solution [GTK+ and XUL],
>  how do we mix the two? How do we approach cross
>  platform, without slowing down the schedule of each
>  project?
>


-- 
Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com              http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org


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