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Posted to dev@corinthia.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <or...@apache.org> on 2014/12/23 17:51:26 UTC
IRC Channel Usage (was RE: Apache Corinthia website is up and running)
Concerning the desirability of maintaining an open IRC channel.
My cyber-worklife is organized around e-mail and asynchronous communication over mailing lists, blogs, and wikis. I do not keep any messaging application open on my desktop and definitely not on mobile devices. (I'm not really a "phone person" and use SMS as much as voice.)
I use Skype and Google Hangout+ for text/tele/video-conferencing. These are mainly scheduled events, not spontaneous and not for Apache Project purposes.
I do have some regularly scheduled teleconferences, but I have ceased participating on ones that, because of their international character, are at times that work badly for someone whose civil time is at UTC-0800 and whose working language is under the handicap of native en-US.
I'm not objecting to the use of IRC. It is simply not anything I partake in.
I am also wary of IRC on a podling, and certainly among PPMC members, until the process of working in public is well-established. I have no opinion on its use for personal communications among project members.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 02:56
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Corinthia website is up and running
On 23 December 2014 at 11:31, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
[ ... ]
> Shouldn't we also put our IRC channel on the web site?
>
The IRC channel was a very fast decision. Not saying it was a bad decision,
it was not, but before promoting it, I would like to hear more opinions.
I have no problem with having a IRC channel, provided someone is prepared
to hang in there...an empty channel or non-responsive channel is for me not
a good sign.
Personally I use google hangout/skype/hipchat a lot more and do not have
IRC started 24/7. But that is just my view, how do the community feel ?
rgds
jan i.
[ ... ]
Re: IRC Channel Usage (was RE: Apache Corinthia website is up and running)
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Tuesday, December 23, 2014, Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org> wrote:
> I too prefer asynchronous communication. I often find being available
> online all day a distraction, esp. when i’m trying to concentrate on
> certain things (Corinthia related or otherwise) - the saying goes that
> every interruption costs 15 minutes of productivity, or something like that.
>
> I’m often on Skype (id: pmkelly2) when I’m not doing anything that
> requires intense concentration, but I’m not enthusiastic about having to
> keep an IRC channel open, and I even close my email usually when I’m
> working.
>
> Having said that, I try to respond to (important) messages reasonably
> quickly. And I’m happy to come on IRC (or any other real-time communication
> mechanism) at pre-arranged times for meetings - in fact I think these are
> quite valuable. Perhaps we could organise a google hangout every fortnight
> or so.
+1 to a google hangout, maybe not at fixed schedules but when we have
themes......that way we can make an invitation based in a agenda and each
of us can decide if we find it interesting.
rgds
jan i
>
> —
> Dr Peter M. Kelly
> pmkelly@apache.org <javascript:;>
>
> PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key>
> (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
>
> > On 23 Dec 2014, at 11:51 pm, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Concerning the desirability of maintaining an open IRC channel.
> >
> > My cyber-worklife is organized around e-mail and asynchronous
> communication over mailing lists, blogs, and wikis. I do not keep any
> messaging application open on my desktop and definitely not on mobile
> devices. (I'm not really a "phone person" and use SMS as much as voice.)
> >
> > I use Skype and Google Hangout+ for text/tele/video-conferencing. These
> are mainly scheduled events, not spontaneous and not for Apache Project
> purposes.
> >
> > I do have some regularly scheduled teleconferences, but I have ceased
> participating on ones that, because of their international character, are
> at times that work badly for someone whose civil time is at UTC-0800 and
> whose working language is under the handicap of native en-US.
> >
> > I'm not objecting to the use of IRC. It is simply not anything I
> partake in.
> >
> > I am also wary of IRC on a podling, and certainly among PPMC members,
> until the process of working in public is well-established. I have no
> opinion on its use for personal communications among project members.
> >
> > - Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 02:56
> > To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: Apache Corinthia website is up and running
> >
> > On 23 December 2014 at 11:31, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > [ ... ]
> >> Shouldn't we also put our IRC channel on the web site?
> >>
> >
> > The IRC channel was a very fast decision. Not saying it was a bad
> decision,
> > it was not, but before promoting it, I would like to hear more opinions.
> >
> > I have no problem with having a IRC channel, provided someone is prepared
> > to hang in there...an empty channel or non-responsive channel is for me
> not
> > a good sign.
> >
> > Personally I use google hangout/skype/hipchat a lot more and do not have
> > IRC started 24/7. But that is just my view, how do the community feel ?
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i.
> >
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
>
>
--
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Re: IRC Channel Usage (was RE: Apache Corinthia website is up and running)
Posted by Peter Kelly <pm...@apache.org>.
I too prefer asynchronous communication. I often find being available online all day a distraction, esp. when i’m trying to concentrate on certain things (Corinthia related or otherwise) - the saying goes that every interruption costs 15 minutes of productivity, or something like that.
I’m often on Skype (id: pmkelly2) when I’m not doing anything that requires intense concentration, but I’m not enthusiastic about having to keep an IRC channel open, and I even close my email usually when I’m working.
Having said that, I try to respond to (important) messages reasonably quickly. And I’m happy to come on IRC (or any other real-time communication mechanism) at pre-arranged times for meetings - in fact I think these are quite valuable. Perhaps we could organise a google hangout every fortnight or so.
—
Dr Peter M. Kelly
pmkelly@apache.org
PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key>
(fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
> On 23 Dec 2014, at 11:51 pm, Dennis E. Hamilton <or...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Concerning the desirability of maintaining an open IRC channel.
>
> My cyber-worklife is organized around e-mail and asynchronous communication over mailing lists, blogs, and wikis. I do not keep any messaging application open on my desktop and definitely not on mobile devices. (I'm not really a "phone person" and use SMS as much as voice.)
>
> I use Skype and Google Hangout+ for text/tele/video-conferencing. These are mainly scheduled events, not spontaneous and not for Apache Project purposes.
>
> I do have some regularly scheduled teleconferences, but I have ceased participating on ones that, because of their international character, are at times that work badly for someone whose civil time is at UTC-0800 and whose working language is under the handicap of native en-US.
>
> I'm not objecting to the use of IRC. It is simply not anything I partake in.
>
> I am also wary of IRC on a podling, and certainly among PPMC members, until the process of working in public is well-established. I have no opinion on its use for personal communications among project members.
>
> - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 02:56
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Apache Corinthia website is up and running
>
> On 23 December 2014 at 11:31, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> [ ... ]
>> Shouldn't we also put our IRC channel on the web site?
>>
>
> The IRC channel was a very fast decision. Not saying it was a bad decision,
> it was not, but before promoting it, I would like to hear more opinions.
>
> I have no problem with having a IRC channel, provided someone is prepared
> to hang in there...an empty channel or non-responsive channel is for me not
> a good sign.
>
> Personally I use google hangout/skype/hipchat a lot more and do not have
> IRC started 24/7. But that is just my view, how do the community feel ?
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
> [ ... ]
>