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[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
On 06/02/15 20:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 30/01/2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as
>> the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
>> [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)
>> [ ] Jan Iversen (jani)
>> Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM
>> GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate.
>
> Vote is closed.
>
> Preliminary results see 10 binding votes for jani, 8 binding votes for
> orcmid. But results are so close that I recommend that everybody who
> voted checks below that I counted his/her vote correctly. Let me know
> if I made any mistakes, please.
What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.
10(+5) to 8(+3) with 9 abstaining is a thin margin, I'm not yet seeing
any clear consensus in it. A a considerable and easy way out might be a
double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
complementary skills.
/Peter
>
> Votes from the OpenOffice PMC
> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc :
>
> 10 jani:
>
> alg arist hdu
> jsc khirano marcus
> mechtilde mikeadvo orw
> pescetti
>
> 8 orcmid:
>
> arielch galoppini kschenk
> louis pj regina
> robweir wave
>
> 9 Abstaining:
>
> af atjensen dpharbison
> fanyuzhen imacat ingotian
> jim mayongl rgb-es
>
> Plus the following votes from other community members:
> 5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado,
> Guy Waterval)
> 3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton)
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: [PRIVATE] Fwd: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Peter Junge <pe...@gmx.org> wrote:
> On 06/02/15 20:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> On 30/01/2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as
>>> the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
>>> [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)
>>> [ ] Jan Iversen (jani)
>>> Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM
>>> GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate.
>>>
>>
>> Vote is closed.
>>
>> Preliminary results see 10 binding votes for jani, 8 binding votes for
>> orcmid. But results are so close that I recommend that everybody who voted
>> checks below that I counted his/her vote correctly. Let me know if I made
>> any mistakes, please.
>>
>
> What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
> philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.
> 10(+5) to 8(+3) with 9 abstaining is a thin margin, I'm not yet seeing any
> clear consensus in it. A a considerable and easy way out might be a double
> chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
> complementary skills.
Double chair is not possible in apache. Chair is the connection to the
board all other duties/responsibilities are all PMC every project has
exactly 1 chair, therefore it makes real good sense to inite Dennis.
You are right in ASF we alwayes try to make consensus, but I am not sure
what can bevdone in this case. If there is a general feeling that this vote
needs somehow to be redone, I am not the one standing in the way.
Furthermore I am NOT elected by the vite, but Andrea sends a
recommmendation to the board based on the vote, then the board decide if
they want to accept the recommendation.
rgds
jan i
>
> /Peter
>
>
>> Votes from the OpenOffice PMC http://people.apache.org/
>> committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc :
>>
>> 10 jani:
>>
>> alg arist hdu
>> jsc khirano marcus
>> mechtilde mikeadvo orw
>> pescetti
>>
>> 8 orcmid:
>>
>> arielch galoppini kschenk
>> louis pj regina
>> robweir wave
>>
>> 9 Abstaining:
>>
>> af atjensen dpharbison
>> fanyuzhen imacat ingotian
>> jim mayongl rgb-es
>>
>> Plus the following votes from other community members:
>> 5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado, Guy
>> Waterval)
>> 3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
>>
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RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <or...@apache.org>.
For the record, I am in complete accord with the outcome and how Andrea is moving his recommendation for new Chair forward to the ASF Board. I shall continue as a contributor. I look forward to our moving forward on Andrea's Priority #2 proposal.
I have no interpretation to offer concerning details of the [VOTE] and the quantitative outcome. My only observations is that the cast votes are what they were (and what votes not cast were not) and the outcome is what it is. Elections are like that, to the bemusement of all [;<).
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From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pescetti@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 02:24
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
Peter Junge wrote:
> What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
> philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.
Conclusion is that Jan is the person I will recommend for replacing me.
The vote outcome determines the new Chair.
> A a considerable and easy way out might be a
> double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
> complementary skills.
We have one Chair. And it will be Jan. Of course, it's natural to think
that Dennis can/will have a major role in the project. This is the duty
of PMC members. And it can be done without any formal titles (a thing
that I'm sure neither Dennis or Jan are attached to). So it's totally
welcome for me to see Jan, Dennis AND ALL OF US work together and help
in different project areas.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Peter Junge wrote:
> What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
> philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.
Conclusion is that Jan is the person I will recommend for replacing me.
The vote outcome determines the new Chair.
> A a considerable and easy way out might be a
> double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
> complementary skills.
We have one Chair. And it will be Jan. Of course, it's natural to think
that Dennis can/will have a major role in the project. This is the duty
of PMC members. And it can be done without any formal titles (a thing
that I'm sure neither Dennis or Jan are attached to). So it's totally
welcome for me to see Jan, Dennis AND ALL OF US work together and help
in different project areas.
Regards,
Andrea.
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