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Posted to user@vcl.apache.org by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu> on 2013/02/12 20:42:23 UTC
VCL on OpenStack
Hi,
Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590).
Is the module has been in use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
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Thank you,
Dmitri Chebotarov
VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Curtis <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> For the first time provisioning, it is necessary to copy full of the
> original image from the storage node to the computing node. But the qcow2
> clones for the later provisioning within the computing node. But this is
> for the OpenStack Essex not for the Folsom. I haven't test the OpenStack
> module for the Folsom yet.
>
A better word than clones would be snapshots...qcow2 snapshots. :)
Thanks,
Curtis.
>
>
> Young
>
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> From: Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>
> To: dev@vcl.apache.org, "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>,
> Cc: Young h Oh/Durham/IBM@IBMUS
> Date: 02/12/2013 03:38 PM
> Subject: Re: VCL on OpenStack
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> Dmitri,
>
> If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
> OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
> OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which
> can
> take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full
> copy
> is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon
> as
> linked clones are supported.
>
> Young - Am I remembering correctly?
>
> Josh
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been
> in
> > use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
> >
> > --
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Dmitri Chebotarov
> > VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> > Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> > Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
> - --
> - -------------------------------
> Josh Thompson
> VCL Developer
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>
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Curtis <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> For the first time provisioning, it is necessary to copy full of the
> original image from the storage node to the computing node. But the qcow2
> clones for the later provisioning within the computing node. But this is
> for the OpenStack Essex not for the Folsom. I haven't test the OpenStack
> module for the Folsom yet.
>
A better word than clones would be snapshots...qcow2 snapshots. :)
Thanks,
Curtis.
>
>
> Young
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Josh Thompson ---02/12/2013 03:38:13
> PM--------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1]Josh Thompson
> ---02/12/2013 03:38:13 PM--------BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
>
> From: Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>
> To: dev@vcl.apache.org, "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>,
> Cc: Young h Oh/Durham/IBM@IBMUS
> Date: 02/12/2013 03:38 PM
> Subject: Re: VCL on OpenStack
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Dmitri,
>
> If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
> OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
> OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which
> can
> take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full
> copy
> is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon
> as
> linked clones are supported.
>
> Young - Am I remembering correctly?
>
> Josh
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been
> in
> > use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
> >
> > --
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Dmitri Chebotarov
> > VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> > Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> > Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
> - --
> - -------------------------------
> Josh Thompson
> VCL Developer
> North Carolina State University
>
> my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu
>
> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com>.
Josh,
For the first time provisioning, it is necessary to copy full of the
original image from the storage node to the computing node. But the qcow2
clones for the later provisioning within the computing node. But this is
for the OpenStack Essex not for the Folsom. I haven't test the OpenStack
module for the Folsom yet.
Young
From: Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>
To: dev@vcl.apache.org, "user@vcl.apache.org"
<us...@vcl.apache.org>,
Cc: Young h Oh/Durham/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 02/12/2013 03:38 PM
Subject: Re: VCL on OpenStack
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Dmitri,
If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which can
take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full
copy
is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon
as
linked clones are supported.
Young - Am I remembering correctly?
Josh
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been
in
> use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
- --
- -------------------------------
Josh Thompson
VCL Developer
North Carolina State University
my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu
All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com>.
Josh,
For the first time provisioning, it is necessary to copy full of the
original image from the storage node to the computing node. But the qcow2
clones for the later provisioning within the computing node. But this is
for the OpenStack Essex not for the Folsom. I haven't test the OpenStack
module for the Folsom yet.
Young
From: Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>
To: dev@vcl.apache.org, "user@vcl.apache.org"
<us...@vcl.apache.org>,
Cc: Young h Oh/Durham/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 02/12/2013 03:38 PM
Subject: Re: VCL on OpenStack
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Hash: SHA1
Dmitri,
If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which can
take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full
copy
is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon
as
linked clones are supported.
Young - Am I remembering correctly?
Josh
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been
in
> use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
- --
- -------------------------------
Josh Thompson
VCL Developer
North Carolina State University
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All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>.
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Dmitri,
If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which can
take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full copy
is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon as
linked clones are supported.
Young - Am I remembering correctly?
Josh
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been in
> use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
- --
- -------------------------------
Josh Thompson
VCL Developer
North Carolina State University
my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu
All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Curtis Collicutt <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590).
> Is the module has been in use by anyone since then? How is it performing
> so far?
>
Yes, we're using it with some modifications b/c we also us NAT. It's
working fine, though we haven't done a lot with having image admins modify
images, so not sure how well that works. But yes, we have a production VCL
instance backed by OpenStack (Essex + Ubuntu 12.04) and it performs fine,
if by performs you mean it works like one would expect. :)
Thanks,
Curtis.
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
>
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>.
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Hash: SHA1
Dmitri,
If I remember correctly, Young tabled work on the OpenStack module until
OpenStack can support linked clones. The thinking was that currently,
OpenStack always does a full copy of the vmdk files for a deploy, which can
take a while. Using linked clones makes it work much faster since a full copy
is no longer needed. I think Young planned on picking it back up as soon as
linked clones are supported.
Young - Am I remembering correctly?
Josh
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:42:23 PM Dmitri Chebotarov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590). Is the module has been in
> use by anyone since then? How is it performing so far?
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
- --
- -------------------------------
Josh Thompson
VCL Developer
North Carolina State University
my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu
All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which
are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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Re: VCL on OpenStack
Posted by Curtis Collicutt <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sometime ago Young-Hyun created OpenStack module for VCL (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-590).
> Is the module has been in use by anyone since then? How is it performing
> so far?
>
Yes, we're using it with some modifications b/c we also us NAT. It's
working fine, though we haven't done a lot with having image admins modify
images, so not sure how well that works. But yes, we have a production VCL
instance backed by OpenStack (Essex + Ubuntu 12.04) and it performs fine,
if by performs you mean it works like one would expect. :)
Thanks,
Curtis.
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers &
> Messaging
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
>
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