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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> on 2005/01/02 19:52:40 UTC
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Mark Thomas wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
>> I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much
>> sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it. It has (the
>> page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using
>> jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned
>> Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to
>> jakarta-site2).
>
> There is a reference in jakarta-tomcat-site\build.bat (and build.sh). At the
> moment the tomcat site won't build using CVS HEAD.
Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
>> If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
>> PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
>
> And this is the obvious work-around until one of us takes a look at this.
Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go
breaking things for any of the subprojects.
Hen
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RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
sebb wrote:
> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site.
Including, FWIW, JAMES (ex-Jakarta project). But we can clone what we need
until/if we replace it.
--- Noel
RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
sebb wrote:
> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site.
Including, FWIW, JAMES (ex-Jakarta project). But we can clone what we need
until/if we replace it.
--- Noel
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 3 Jan 2005, at 00:15, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>
>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
>> perhaps those need to be restored.
>
> Sites with the older l&f:
>
> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide,
> Tomcat, Watchdog.
>
> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
>
> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
>
>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
>
> + JMeter.
>
> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
the ECS web site build is bust anyway. (i have to manually hack stuff
whenever i need to change it.) could do with a tidy up after the move
to subversion.
- robert
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> > <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> >>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
> >>> perhaps those need to be restored.
> >>
> >> Sites with the older l&f:
> >>
> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
> >> Watchdog.
> >>
> >> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
> >>
> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
> >>
> >>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
> >>
> >> + JMeter.
> >>
> >> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
> >>
> >
> > I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files
> > in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
> > http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
> > *followed* by the file name).
> >
> > Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
> > versions of the files, for example:
> >
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
> >
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
> >
> > Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
> > but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
>
> Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
> though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
>
> I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
> way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
> graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
> a good chance of still using site2.
>
> Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
> no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.
WRT Struts, it does not depend on site2. Its site generation is self-contained.
--
Martin Cooper
> Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
> various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
>
> Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@gmail.com>.
FYI James uses XSLT with no dependance on Anakia or Jakarta-site
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> > <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> >>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
> >>> perhaps those need to be restored.
> >>
> >> Sites with the older l&f:
> >>
> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
> >> Watchdog.
> >>
> >> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
> >>
> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
> >>
> >>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
> >>
> >> + JMeter.
> >>
> >> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
> >>
> >
> > I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files
> > in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
> > http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
> > *followed* by the file name).
> >
> > Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
> > versions of the files, for example:
> >
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
> >
> > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
> >
> > Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
> > but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
>
> Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
> though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
>
> I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
> way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
> graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
> a good chance of still using site2.
>
> Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
> no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.
>
> Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
> various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
>
> Hen
>
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote:
>
>> Henri,
>>
>> I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading
>> xml
>> aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience
>> could be of value.
>
> expertise and experience are always valued here :)
You mean you could know more than the O'Reilly XSLT book that I have to
pour through to remind myself of simple changes? :)
Any help is very welcome. The only one that leaps to mind right now is the
Ant xslt task, where I'm having to c+p a bit more than I want to. So not
really an xslt problem. Seb's recent suggestions fixed the major xslt
problems I was facing.
However, I'll start to compile a list; or you could take a look at
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?view=markup
and let us know what's screwy.
There's obviously a lot that needs to move into CSS. I've a set of changes
for the 3-tier version that aren't checked in yet; though as I screwed up
it is viewable in an older version:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?rev=1.15&view=markup
It's generally not much different. project.xml changes to site.xml and I
modify that to have navbar elements. The site/logo bit needs to be removed
too.
> the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in the
> jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers or members)
> can contribute to the discussion and help build a better jakarta.
>
> thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any other
> lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in...
+1
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote:
> Henri,
>
> I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a
> leading xml
> aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and
> experience
> could be of value.
expertise and experience are always valued here :)
> I am especially adept at xslt. Is there a need for contributions in
> this
> arena?
any suggestions for improvements will be eagerly listened to. (perhaps
henri may like to jump in with any specific task's he has in mind...)
the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in
the jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers
or members) can contribute to the discussion and help build a better
jakarta.
thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any
other lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in...
- robert
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RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by John Rasmussen <jo...@datapower.com>.
Henri,
I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading xml
aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience
could be of value.
I am especially adept at xslt. Is there a need for contributions in this
arena?
Regards,
John Rasmussen
DataPower Technology, Inc.
One Alewife Center
Cambridge, MA 02140, US
Office: US +1 617.864.0455 x359
Fax: US +1 617.864.0458
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From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:02 AM
To: Jakarta General List; sebb
Subject: Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
>>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
>>> perhaps those need to be restored.
>>
>> Sites with the older l&f:
>>
>> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
>> Watchdog.
>>
>> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
>>
>> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
>>
>>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
>>
>> + JMeter.
>>
>> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
>>
>
> I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files
> in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
> http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
> *followed* by the file name).
>
> Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
> versions of the files, for example:
>
>
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?onl
y_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
>
>
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_
with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
>
> Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
> but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
a good chance of still using site2.
Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.
Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
>>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
>>> perhaps those need to be restored.
>>
>> Sites with the older l&f:
>>
>> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
>> Watchdog.
>>
>> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
>>
>> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
>>
>>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
>>
>> + JMeter.
>>
>> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
>>
>
> I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files
> in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
> http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
> *followed* by the file name).
>
> Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
> versions of the files, for example:
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
>
> Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
> but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites
though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things.
I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this
way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the
graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got
a good chance of still using site2.
Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but
no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets.
Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or
various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
>
> > Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> > stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
> > perhaps those need to be restored.
>
> Sites with the older l&f:
>
> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
> Watchdog.
>
> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
>
> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
>
> > Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
>
> + JMeter.
>
> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
>
I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files
in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see
http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is
*followed* by the file name).
Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD
versions of the files, for example:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup
Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used,
but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used.
> I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people
> that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably
> never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only
> repository for a while.
>
> Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay.
>
> Hen
>
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
> perhaps those need to be restored.
Sites with the older l&f:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
Watchdog.
However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
+ JMeter.
So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people
that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably
never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only
repository for a while.
Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote:
> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
> perhaps those need to be restored.
Sites with the older l&f:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat,
Watchdog.
However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users:
Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide.
> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
+ JMeter.
So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS.
I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people
that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably
never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only
repository for a while.
Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay.
Hen
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:52:40 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
> > Henri Yandell wrote:
> >> I've removed the Website Maintenance link too, it no longer makes much
> >> sense and nobody seemed to mind the suggestion of killing it. It has (the
> >> page isn't gone yet, just the link) a lot of stuff about using
> >> jakarta-site2 as a system for other sites (I thought somebody mentioned
> >> Tomcat did this, but looking at their CVS repo I can't see references to
> >> jakarta-site2).
> >
> > There is a reference in jakarta-tomcat-site\build.bat (and build.sh). At the
> > moment the tomcat site won't build using CVS HEAD.
>
> Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
>
> >> If the old version is needed however, it is tagged under the tag
> >> PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL.
> >
> > And this is the obvious work-around until one of us takes a look at this.
>
> Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go
> breaking things for any of the subprojects.
Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or
stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so
perhaps those need to be restored.
Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter...
>
> Hen
>
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Mark Thomas wrote:
> Thanks for the offer of help. I was planning at looking at this
> tomorrow. I was going to look in CVS to see what you changed on
> jakarta-site2 and go from there. If anything doesn't make sense I'll let
> you know.
FYI: The Tomcat site now builds (via ANT and XLST) without the need for
jakarta-site2. There is plenty of scope for streamlining the build but
that is rather lower priority.
Mark
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Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Ack, sorry. I didn't think to look in the scripts, just the build.xml.
No problem. I can easily build stuff using the PRE-ANAKIA-REMOVAL tag.
> Let me know if I can do anything to help; I obviously don't intend to go
> breaking things for any of the subprojects.
Thanks for the offer of help. I was planning at looking at this
tomorrow. I was going to look in CVS to see what you changed on
jakarta-site2 and go from there. If anything doesn't make sense I'll let
you know.
BTW, I was going to tackle the rest of the nagoya renaming issues at the
same time.
Mark
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