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Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Hi all,
Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat Project
is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat. This
release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
designed for Tomcat 9 ".
It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the difference
between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be reworked
a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without being
too heavy)?
Romain Manni-Bucau
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Re: Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot!
Romain Manni-Bucau
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Le lun. 26 avr. 2021 à 18:00, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> a écrit :
> On 26/04/2021 14:33, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > We need to find a way to re-work the first paragraph on the home page to
> > reference both Java EE and Jakarta EE. There are probably the places in
> > the site, and probably the docs, where we need to address this.
> >
> > I'll take a look this afternoon.
>
> I've taken a pass over the website and the Tomcat 10.x repo (searching
> for "EE") and updated everything I found that looked like it needed
> updating. I also want to follow-up something on the JAAS Realm but I'll
> do that in a new thread.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26/04/2021 14:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat
> >> Project
> >> is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat.
> This
> >> release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
> >> designed for Tomcat 9 ".
> >>
> >> It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
> >> releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the difference
> >> between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
> >>
> >> I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be
> >> reworked
> >> a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
> >> misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without
> being
> >> too heavy)?
> >>
> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
> >> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
> >> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> >> <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 26/04/2021 14:33, Mark Thomas wrote:
> We need to find a way to re-work the first paragraph on the home page to
> reference both Java EE and Jakarta EE. There are probably the places in
> the site, and probably the docs, where we need to address this.
>
> I'll take a look this afternoon.
I've taken a pass over the website and the Tomcat 10.x repo (searching
for "EE") and updated everything I found that looked like it needed
updating. I also want to follow-up something on the JAAS Realm but I'll
do that in a new thread.
Mark
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On 26/04/2021 14:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat
>> Project
>> is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat. This
>> release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
>> designed for Tomcat 9 ".
>>
>> It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
>> releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the difference
>> between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
>>
>> I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be
>> reworked
>> a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
>> misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without being
>> too heavy)?
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
>> <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
In the spirit yes, exactly, in practise Tomcat is far to be web profile
(far as it misses ~10 specs from memory which even includes JPA/JAX-RS for
example) so the word/profile for Tomcat does not exist yet AFAIK.
Romain Manni-Bucau
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Le lun. 26 avr. 2021 à 17:24, Raymond Augé <ra...@liferay.com.invalid>
a écrit :
> I believe the distinction might be w.r.t. what used to be referred to as
> "Web Profile" vs. "Full Profile".
>
> Is that correct Romain?
>
> - Ray
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:33 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > We need to find a way to re-work the first paragraph on the home page to
> > reference both Java EE and Jakarta EE. There are probably the places in
> > the site, and probably the docs, where we need to address this.
> >
> > I'll take a look this afternoon.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26/04/2021 14:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat
> > Project
> > > is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat.
> This
> > > release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
> > > designed for Tomcat 9 ".
> > >
> > > It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
> > > releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the
> difference
> > > between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
> > >
> > > I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be
> > reworked
> > > a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
> > > misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without
> being
> > > too heavy)?
> > >
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
> > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > > <
> >
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> > >
> > >
> >
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> --
> *Raymond Augé* (@rotty3000)
> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* (@Liferay)
> OSGi Fellow
>
Re: Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Posted by Raymond Augé <ra...@liferay.com.INVALID>.
I believe the distinction might be w.r.t. what used to be referred to as
"Web Profile" vs. "Full Profile".
Is that correct Romain?
- Ray
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:33 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> We need to find a way to re-work the first paragraph on the home page to
> reference both Java EE and Jakarta EE. There are probably the places in
> the site, and probably the docs, where we need to address this.
>
> I'll take a look this afternoon.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On 26/04/2021 14:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat
> Project
> > is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat. This
> > release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
> > designed for Tomcat 9 ".
> >
> > It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
> > releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the difference
> > between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
> >
> > I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be
> reworked
> > a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
> > misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without being
> > too heavy)?
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
> > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> > <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >
> >
>
>
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*Raymond Augé* (@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* (@Liferay)
OSGi Fellow
Re: Clarify what Tomcat means with "Jakarta EE 9 "mention
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
We need to find a way to re-work the first paragraph on the home page to
reference both Java EE and Jakarta EE. There are probably the places in
the site, and probably the docs, where we need to address this.
I'll take a look this afternoon.
Mark
On 26/04/2021 14:02, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Going on http://tomcat.apache.org/ you can read "The Apache Tomcat Project
> is proud to announce the release of version 10.0.5 of Apache Tomcat. This
> release is targeted at Jakarta EE 9." and later "Java EE applications
> designed for Tomcat 9 ".
>
> It seems it is a very common phrasing and I get regularly (not for all
> releases but often enough) pinged offline to know what is the difference
> between Apache TomEE and Apache Tomcat if Tomcat supports JakartaEE.
>
> I don't have a clear solution but do you think the phrasing can be reworked
> a bit to clarify it only concerns a few specs and avoid this
> misunderstanding (guess a link to a reference page can work without being
> too heavy)?
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance>
>
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