Logos and Voting

[Leif Wells <le...@gmail.com>]

All,

I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
wondering if this is appropriate.

I will not vote on ANY logos until ALL the logos have been submitted.
Seeing these logo submissions and commenting on them is great. It should
give the designers opportunity to make changes based upon everyone's
feedback. To me, voting should start after the deadline for submission.

Hopefully you understand my reasoning here. Let me know what you think.

Leif

How do we vote on logos

[Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>]

On 1/12/2012 11:39 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote:
> Note, the PPMC members have still note decided how we are going to vote. 

  I said this in another post, but in case it doesn't get lost; I 
decided to change the thread title and repost it.  This is how I suggest 
we do voting on the logos:

  I was thinking at the end of the contest someone will create a vote 
thread with a link list of all the logos; then we can respectively +1, 
0, or -1 each logo individually.  Someone will tally up the votes and 
whichever has the highest score wins.  Or we can do a re-vote if there 
is a tie.


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Re: Logos and Voting

[Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael Schmalle <mi...@teotigraphix.com>wrote:

> I really could care less how it is done, just that there are not 100 more
> threads about the logo contest. It's getting tiring when it could just
> easily be agreed on and put to rest.


I agree there are getting to be too much discussion around it. Which is why
I'm trying to just keep it simple.

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Jonathan Campos

Re: Logos and Voting

[Michael Schmalle <mi...@teotigraphix.com>]

Quoting Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Because no one has taken the lead and suggested a way of voting (hint,
>> hint ;-)
>
>
> I would really like to see a PPMC based uservoice vote on the logos. I
> think that will be the simplest way to do things.
>
> --
> Jonathan Campos
>

Sorry Jonathan, I missed this post.

I only wrote what I did because Bertrand was hinting this has to be  
figured out.

I really could care less how it is done, just that there are not 100  
more threads about the logo contest. It's getting tiring when it could  
just easily be agreed on and put to rest.

Mike

Re: Logos and Voting

[Jonathan Campos <jo...@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:

> Because no one has taken the lead and suggested a way of voting (hint,
> hint ;-)


I would really like to see a PPMC based uservoice vote on the logos. I
think that will be the simplest way to do things.

-- 
Jonathan Campos

Re: Logos and Voting

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Michael Schmalle <mi...@teotigraphix.com> wrote:
> ...Note, the PPMC members have still note decided how we are going to vote...

Because no one has taken the lead and suggested a way of voting (hint, hint ;-)

If a public vote is ok (I think it is), I'd suggest sending an email
here with the list of names and URLs once the submission deadline is
over, and give each voter N points that they can give to the various
candidates to vote, in the same thread.

Wait M hours, count the points and if there's a tie run another vote
with the logos that got most votes.

The PPMC needs to decide if only its votes count of if community votes
count as well - I'd suggest just the PPMC to keep things simple.

Some needs to take the lead to get consensus on this, and that won't
be me - I'm just a mentor.

-Bertrand

Re: Logos and Voting

[Michael Schmalle <mi...@teotigraphix.com>]

Quoting Leif Wells <le...@gmail.com>:

> All,
>
> I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
> wondering if this is appropriate.
>
> I will not vote on ANY logos until ALL the logos have been submitted.
> Seeing these logo submissions and commenting on them is great. It should
> give the designers opportunity to make changes based upon everyone's
> feedback. To me, voting should start after the deadline for submission.
>
> Hopefully you understand my reasoning here. Let me know what you think.
>
> Leif
>

This is what the contest says, so I think people are getting a little  
over anxious with the + and 1 keys.

The contest says;

""
Your proposal link will be published on the Flex Incubation website  
here next to the other proposals. On a date to be specified the  
community will choose the new logo through voting on the Apache Flex  
Development Mailing List.
""

Note, the PPMC members have still note decided how we are going to vote.

Mike

Re: Logos and Voting

[Peter Elst <pe...@gmail.com>]

>
> I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
> wondering if this is appropriate.
>
> I will not vote on ANY logos until ALL the logos have been submitted.
>


I agree, would personally also propose to keep commenting on the proposals
to a minimum. The design chosen will still be fine tuned, but we're seeing
entries that follow up with 2 or 3 more variations based on feedback.

- Peter

Re: Logos and Voting

[Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>]

  +1

  However, as I understand it; the +1ing in non-Vote threads is 
meaningless.  I don't think we figured out how to formally vote yet.

  I was thinking at the end of the contest someone will create a vote 
thread with a link list of all the logos; then we can respectively +1, 
0, or -1 each logo individually.  Someone (Mike's been taking the lead 
on this?) will tally up the votes and whichever has the highest score wins.

  [Keep +1ing though because just the other day I was thinking my inbox 
didn't have nearly enough "me too" posts]

On 1/12/2012 11:28 AM, Leif Wells wrote:
> All,
>
> I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
> wondering if this is appropriate.
>
> I will not vote on ANY logos until ALL the logos have been submitted.
> Seeing these logo submissions and commenting on them is great. It should
> give the designers opportunity to make changes based upon everyone's
> feedback. To me, voting should start after the deadline for submission.
>
> Hopefully you understand my reasoning here. Let me know what you think.
>
> Leif
>


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Re: Logos and Voting

[Matthew Poole <ma...@gmail.com>]

I woudnt say it's voting so much as suggesting preference. You are
absolutely right the final vote will be the one that counts.

On 12 January 2012 16:28, Leif Wells <le...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
> wondering if this is appropriate.
>
> I will not vote on ANY logos until ALL the logos have been submitted.
> Seeing these logo submissions and commenting on them is great. It should
> give the designers opportunity to make changes based upon everyone's
> feedback. To me, voting should start after the deadline for submission.
>
> Hopefully you understand my reasoning here. Let me know what you think.
>
> Leif
>

Re: Logos and Voting

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Leif Wells <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I am a bit concerned about seeing people vote on specific logos. I am
> wondering if this is appropriate...

It's not a vote if it's not in a [VOTE] thread...I guess people are
just saying "I like this logo" which is fine.

(and if they're voting they're just wasting their time - until this
PPMC decides how it will select a logo)

-Bertrand