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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com> on 2020/05/04 22:36:30 UTC

moving the base JVM level forward to Java 11

Discussion on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-7076 suggests 
that we could move the base JVM level of the next (10.16) release 
forward from Java 9 to Java 11. The practical consequence of this is 
that the 10.16 family would NOT run on Java 9 and Java 10 JVMs. I do not 
think that this would be a serious problem. I suspect that most users 
who migrate off Java 8 will skip the intervening non-LTS versions and 
upgrade to Java 11 directly. Moving the base JVM level forward would let 
us take advantage of more improvements to the core libraries. Following 
our past practice, this change would require a vote by the community.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,

-Rick

Re: moving the base JVM level forward to Java 11

Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>.

Thanks Davide and Bryan,

I will wait a little longer for more feedback and then call a vote.

Cheers,
-Rick

On 5/7/20 3:59 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
> Moving the trunk and the next release to JDK 11 is fine with me.
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:36 PM Davide Grandi <da...@email.it> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> - Java 11 is 1 year 6 months old
>> - next LTS release, Java 17, will be released in another 1 year
>>     6 months since now
>> - JDBC 4.3 is stable since Java 9, being 4.4 in early access stage
>>     https://www.google.com/search?q=jdbc+4.4
>>
>> So, for me, it seems a good moment to switch o the next LTS.
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>>       Davide
>>
>> On 05/05/2020 00:36, Rick Hillegas wrote:
>>> Discussion on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-7076 suggests
>>> that we could move the base JVM level of the next (10.16) release
>>> forward from Java 9 to Java 11. The practical consequence of this is
>>> that the 10.16 family would NOT run on Java 9 and Java 10 JVMs. I do not
>>> think that this would be a serious problem. I suspect that most users
>>> who migrate off Java 8 will skip the intervening non-LTS versions and
>>> upgrade to Java 11 directly. Moving the base JVM level forward would let
>>> us take advantage of more improvements to the core libraries. Following
>>> our past practice, this change would require a vote by the community.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Rick

Re: moving the base JVM level forward to Java 11

Posted by Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>.

Moving the trunk and the next release to JDK 11 is fine with me.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:36 PM Davide Grandi <da...@email.it> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> - Java 11 is 1 year 6 months old
> - next LTS release, Java 17, will be released in another 1 year
>    6 months since now
> - JDBC 4.3 is stable since Java 9, being 4.4 in early access stage
>    https://www.google.com/search?q=jdbc+4.4
>
> So, for me, it seems a good moment to switch o the next LTS.
>
> Bye,
>
>      Davide
>
> On 05/05/2020 00:36, Rick Hillegas wrote:
> > Discussion on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-7076 suggests
> > that we could move the base JVM level of the next (10.16) release
> > forward from Java 9 to Java 11. The practical consequence of this is
> > that the 10.16 family would NOT run on Java 9 and Java 10 JVMs. I do not
> > think that this would be a serious problem. I suspect that most users
> > who migrate off Java 8 will skip the intervening non-LTS versions and
> > upgrade to Java 11 directly. Moving the base JVM level forward would let
> > us take advantage of more improvements to the core libraries. Following
> > our past practice, this change would require a vote by the community.
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Rick

Re: moving the base JVM level forward to Java 11

Posted by Davide Grandi <da...@email.it>.

Hello,

- Java 11 is 1 year 6 months old
- next LTS release, Java 17, will be released in another 1 year
   6 months since now
- JDBC 4.3 is stable since Java 9, being 4.4 in early access stage
   https://www.google.com/search?q=jdbc+4.4

So, for me, it seems a good moment to switch o the next LTS.

Bye,

     Davide

On 05/05/2020 00:36, Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Discussion on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-7076 suggests 
> that we could move the base JVM level of the next (10.16) release 
> forward from Java 9 to Java 11. The practical consequence of this is 
> that the 10.16 family would NOT run on Java 9 and Java 10 JVMs. I do not 
> think that this would be a serious problem. I suspect that most users 
> who migrate off Java 8 will skip the intervening non-LTS versions and 
> upgrade to Java 11 directly. Moving the base JVM level forward would let 
> us take advantage of more improvements to the core libraries. Following 
> our past practice, this change would require a vote by the community.
> 
> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Rick