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RE: Status of 10.0.x
Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x releases come to an end?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > >>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07，Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> 写道：
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
> > >>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x
> was stable.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will
> > >>>>>>>> be a
> > >>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
> > >>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
> be?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
> > >>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
> > >>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
> > >>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations
> etc?
> > >>
> > >> Or we wait until the following week.
> > >>
> > >> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
> > >>
> > >> Or ... ?
> > >
> > > Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> > >
> > > So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
> >
> > I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
> > emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
> > that plan.
>
> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
>
> Rémy
>
> > Mark
> >
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RE: Status of 10.0.x
Posted by jo...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID.
Thanks for the info. We were discussing strategy this morning and there was the question of 10.0x vs 10.1x. :-)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 1:36 PM
> To: dev@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
>
> On 26/10/2022 17:45, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x
> releases come to an end?
>
> The plan has always been for 10.0.x releases to cease once 10.1.x was stable.
>
> My current expectation is that there will not be any further 10.0.x releases. I
> am intending to remove 10.0.x from the downloads as part of the November
> release round.
>
> A serious security vulnerability in 10.0.x might change that. Equally, we might
> decide that an update to 10.1.x was an appropriate mitigation.
>
> The final caveat is that any committer can decide to create a release
> candidate of any branch at any time. If they get at least 3 +1 votes from PMC
> members and more +1 votes than -1 votes then that release candidate will
> become a formal release. I'm not aware of any such plans but - in theory - it
> could happen.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> > Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
> > Jon McAlexander
> > Senior Infrastructure Engineer
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> >
> > Middleware Product Engineering
> > Enterprise CIO | EAS | Middleware | Infrastructure Solutions
> >
> > 8080 Cobblestone Rd | Urbandale, IA 50322
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> >
> > jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
> >> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >>>>>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas
> <ma...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07，Rémy Maucherat
> <re...@apache.org>
> >> 写道：
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
> >> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
> >>>>>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10.1.x
> >> was stable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there
> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> be a
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
> >>>>>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
> >> be?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
> >>>>>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
> >>>>>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
> >>>>>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the
> >>>>>> translations
> >> etc?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or we wait until the following week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or ... ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
> >>>>
> >>>> So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
> >>>
> >>> I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
> >>> emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
> >>> that plan.
> >>
> >> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
> >>
> >> Rémy
> >>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
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Re: Status of 10.0.x
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 26/10/2022 17:45, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> Has a definitive decision been made regarding this? When will the 10.0x releases come to an end?
The plan has always been for 10.0.x releases to cease once 10.1.x was
stable.
My current expectation is that there will not be any further 10.0.x
releases. I am intending to remove 10.0.x from the downloads as part of
the November release round.
A serious security vulnerability in 10.0.x might change that. Equally,
we might decide that an update to 10.1.x was an appropriate mitigation.
The final caveat is that any committer can decide to create a release
candidate of any branch at any time. If they get at least 3 +1 votes
from PMC members and more +1 votes than -1 votes then that release
candidate will become a formal release. I'm not aware of any such plans
but - in theory - it could happen.
Mark
>
> Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
> Jon McAlexander
> Senior Infrastructure Engineer
> Asst. Vice President
> He/His
>
> Middleware Product Engineering
> Enterprise CIO | EAS | Middleware | Infrastructure Solutions
>
> 8080 Cobblestone Rd | Urbandale, IA 50322
> MAC: F4469-010
> Tel 515-988-2508 | Cell 515-988-2508
>
> jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 8:55 AM
>> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Status of 10.0.x
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:46 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 27/09/2022 11:25, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:17 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/09/2022 11:15, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 10:31, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2022 03:42, Han Li wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2022年9月26日 23:07，Rémy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
>> 写道：
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 4:51 PM Mark Thomas
>> <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now 10.1.x is stable, how to we want to handle 10.0.x? Than
>>>>>>>>>>> plan has always been that we would support 10.0.x until 10.1.x
>> was stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming the vote passes (we need 1 more +1) then there will
>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>> 10.0.26 release. Do we want that to be the last 10.0.x.
>>>>>>>>>>> release? If, not, how many more 10.0.x releases should there
>> be?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not against stopping at 10.0.26 and directing people to 10.1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given the regressions, I'm now thinking we do 10.0.27 at the
>>>>>>>> start of October (i.e. start the release process next week) and
>>>>>>>> - assuming no issues - make that the final release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, but I'll have trouble doing a release cycle next week. Since
>>>>>>> there is a bad regression I would need to do 9.0.68 now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understood. Can you give me a few hours to update the translations
>> etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or we wait until the following week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or I could do the 9.0.x release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or ... ?
>>>>
>>>> Or you can do the 9.0 release next week (along with 10.0 and 10.1).
>>>>
>>>> So you have all the options on the table now I believe.
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards leaving it a few days in case other regressions
>>> emerge. I think that means me releasing next week if you are OK with
>>> that plan.
>>
>> That sounds like the best option for now, so +1.
>>
>> Rémy
>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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