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Posted to dev@drill.apache.org by "Rumar, Maksym" <ma...@hpe.com> on 2021/11/24 15:57:54 UTC
Drill Wiki Access
Hi all,
I just found that I can add and edit any page on Drill Wiki. So, it means, that anybody can add and remove anything he would like. What do you think about it? Whether project should have open documentation for all?
As I know, GitHub doesn't support pull requests for the wiki repository, so it's a question of how should look process of changing Drill wiki. What are your thoughts about it?
Regards,
Maksym
Re: Drill Wiki Access
Posted by James Turton <dz...@apache.org>.
Okay how about we leave write access to the wiki open to the public for
now, and from time to time we review the git log to look for any signs
of bad edits? So long as we don't detect any such edits, and I think
that it's most likely that we will not get any edits at all from
outside, we can leave it open. As soon as we see a problem starting we
lock the wiki down...
On 2021/11/24 19:17, Ted Dunning wrote:
> The normal open source action for preventing problems like this is to leave
> permissions open and monitor all changes.
>
> Then respond to problems as they (rarely) arise.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 8:33 AM Rumar, Maksym <ma...@hpe.com> wrote:
>
>> "Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
>> repository itself"
>> Yes, but if we leave the wiki open, then, how we can be sure if the wiki
>> wouldn't be destructed? For example, if would be added or removed some
>> lines deliberately or not. How and when we will know about it? It already
>> sounds wrong: "to verify changes after it's applying".
>>
>> And a question is even not in spammers. Of course, they are dangerous, but
>> first of all, we talk about the quality of documentation. For example,
>> someone decided to document, that Drill can't do something, but in reality,
>> it does. Then, someone other, when reading this wrong information on the
>> official source of the project will believe in it. I think it's wrong and
>> it's dangerous.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maksym
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Від: James Turton <ja...@somecomputer.xyz>
>> Надіслано: 24 листопада 2021 р. 18:04
>> Кому: dev@drill.apache.org <de...@drill.apache.org>; Rumar, Maksym <
>> maksym.rumar@hpe.com>
>> Тема: Re: Drill Wiki Access
>>
>> Hi Maksym
>>
>> This is a good point, thank you. I wonder if we could restrict the wiki
>> to "collaborators", or whatever the relevant Github concept is for those
>> who are able to push to the code repo. I also wonder if there is any
>> need. Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
>> repository itself. I wonder if desperate spammers go so far as to
>> deface open source project wikis, it wouldn't surprise me.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 2021/11/24 17:57, Rumar, Maksym wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just found that I can add and edit any page on Drill Wiki. So, it
>> means, that anybody can add and remove anything he would like. What do you
>> think about it? Whether project should have open documentation for all?
>>> As I know, GitHub doesn't support pull requests for the wiki repository,
>> so it's a question of how should look process of changing Drill wiki. What
>> are your thoughts about it?
>>> Regards,
>>> Maksym
>>>
>>
Re: Drill Wiki Access
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
The normal open source action for preventing problems like this is to leave
permissions open and monitor all changes.
Then respond to problems as they (rarely) arise.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 8:33 AM Rumar, Maksym <ma...@hpe.com> wrote:
> "Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
> repository itself"
> Yes, but if we leave the wiki open, then, how we can be sure if the wiki
> wouldn't be destructed? For example, if would be added or removed some
> lines deliberately or not. How and when we will know about it? It already
> sounds wrong: "to verify changes after it's applying".
>
> And a question is even not in spammers. Of course, they are dangerous, but
> first of all, we talk about the quality of documentation. For example,
> someone decided to document, that Drill can't do something, but in reality,
> it does. Then, someone other, when reading this wrong information on the
> official source of the project will believe in it. I think it's wrong and
> it's dangerous.
>
> Regards,
> Maksym
>
> ________________________________
> Від: James Turton <ja...@somecomputer.xyz>
> Надіслано: 24 листопада 2021 р. 18:04
> Кому: dev@drill.apache.org <de...@drill.apache.org>; Rumar, Maksym <
> maksym.rumar@hpe.com>
> Тема: Re: Drill Wiki Access
>
> Hi Maksym
>
> This is a good point, thank you. I wonder if we could restrict the wiki
> to "collaborators", or whatever the relevant Github concept is for those
> who are able to push to the code repo. I also wonder if there is any
> need. Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
> repository itself. I wonder if desperate spammers go so far as to
> deface open source project wikis, it wouldn't surprise me.
>
> James
>
> On 2021/11/24 17:57, Rumar, Maksym wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just found that I can add and edit any page on Drill Wiki. So, it
> means, that anybody can add and remove anything he would like. What do you
> think about it? Whether project should have open documentation for all?
> >
> > As I know, GitHub doesn't support pull requests for the wiki repository,
> so it's a question of how should look process of changing Drill wiki. What
> are your thoughts about it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Maksym
> >
>
>
Re: Drill Wiki Access
Posted by "Rumar, Maksym" <ma...@hpe.com>.
"Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
repository itself"
Yes, but if we leave the wiki open, then, how we can be sure if the wiki wouldn't be destructed? For example, if would be added or removed some lines deliberately or not. How and when we will know about it? It already sounds wrong: "to verify changes after it's applying".
And a question is even not in spammers. Of course, they are dangerous, but first of all, we talk about the quality of documentation. For example, someone decided to document, that Drill can't do something, but in reality, it does. Then, someone other, when reading this wrong information on the official source of the project will believe in it. I think it's wrong and it's dangerous.
Regards,
Maksym
________________________________
Від: James Turton <ja...@somecomputer.xyz>
Надіслано: 24 листопада 2021 р. 18:04
Кому: dev@drill.apache.org <de...@drill.apache.org>; Rumar, Maksym <ma...@hpe.com>
Тема: Re: Drill Wiki Access
Hi Maksym
This is a good point, thank you. I wonder if we could restrict the wiki
to "collaborators", or whatever the relevant Github concept is for those
who are able to push to the code repo. I also wonder if there is any
need. Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
repository itself. I wonder if desperate spammers go so far as to
deface open source project wikis, it wouldn't surprise me.
James
On 2021/11/24 17:57, Rumar, Maksym wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just found that I can add and edit any page on Drill Wiki. So, it means, that anybody can add and remove anything he would like. What do you think about it? Whether project should have open documentation for all?
>
> As I know, GitHub doesn't support pull requests for the wiki repository, so it's a question of how should look process of changing Drill wiki. What are your thoughts about it?
>
> Regards,
> Maksym
>
Re: Drill Wiki Access
Posted by James Turton <ja...@somecomputer.xyz.INVALID>.
Hi Maksym
This is a good point, thank you. I wonder if we could restrict the wiki
to "collaborators", or whatever the relevant Github concept is for those
who are able to push to the code repo. I also wonder if there is any
need. Any destructive action could be reverted because the wiki is a
repository itself. I wonder if desperate spammers go so far as to
deface open source project wikis, it wouldn't surprise me.
James
On 2021/11/24 17:57, Rumar, Maksym wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just found that I can add and edit any page on Drill Wiki. So, it means, that anybody can add and remove anything he would like. What do you think about it? Whether project should have open documentation for all?
>
> As I know, GitHub doesn't support pull requests for the wiki repository, so it's a question of how should look process of changing Drill wiki. What are your thoughts about it?
>
> Regards,
> Maksym
>