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Posted to woden-dev@ws.apache.org by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> on 2005/06/11 19:44:37 UTC
Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Saw this on the ws.apache.org list. Thought it might be useful if and when
WSDL4J is merges with Woden.
Lawrence
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Ken,
Digging back on the emails...Is this the final word on how Derby was
handled?
http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg03674.html
Thanks,
dims
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RE: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Chathura Herath <ch...@opensource.lk>.
Hi Sanjiva, all,
Had a look around after seeing the recent mails and had a look at the svn
location and found some implementation there. Didn't see any svn commit nor
discussions either. Is the commits get posted to axis-cvs@ws.apache.org ???.
I have already gone through some of the work that is to be done. I didn't
know that there has been commits. I am very much willing put some time into
this and contribute.
+1 to discussions on this list.
Chathura
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:sanjiva@opensource.lk]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:18 PM
> To: woden-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
>
> On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 01:33 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sanjiva,
> >
> > Development had already started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser but
> > the parser was not yet well developed. The parser was donated and
> > development is now continuing at Apache with the Woden project.
>
> Where? Is there another list??
>
> > Woden is currently being developed using the public SVN repository. I
> > agree that it doesn't make sense to develop in a closed or private
> > setting and that is certainly not the intention of the few of us
> > working on Woden. If it seems that way it's probably because so far
> > John Kaputin has made the bulk of the code contribution.
>
> I'm confused .. is Woden not one and the same as the "WSDL 2.0
> validating parser" you referred to above?
>
> Are commit messages going somewhere else? If not IIRC I haven't received
> any commit messages.
>
> > I'd also like to see more discussion on this list and also agree that
> > input from interested groups (such as Axis, Eclipse, and the W3C) will
> > be beneficial at this early stage of development.
>
> I'd like to see *some* discussion on this list ;-). The only message in
> May for example AFAICT was about the Web site! I don't recall a single
> technical discussion ... did I just miss a bunch of mail?
>
> > Arthur Ryman is acting as the W3C WSDL 2.0 working group
> > representative and I am acting as the Eclipse WTP representative to
> > this project. I know John has been in touch with someone from Axis but
> > can you act as a representative for Axis and bring Axis related
> > concerns to the attention of this list? If not, is there someone else
> > you can recommend to fill this role?
>
> Chathura Herath, who's doing the WOM stuff in Axis2, was listed as a
> co-committer for Woden. However, AFAIK he hasn't had any contact with
> the Woden team either.
>
> I will also be around and will be happy to help build bridges as needed.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
>
>
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
>Where? Is there another list??
Nope. As John said in his post things have been relatively quiet as the
project is only going to start to pick-up steam now.
>I'm confused .. is Woden not one and the same as the "WSDL 2.0
>validating parser" you referred to above?
Yes and no. In the short term Woden will be a WSDL 2.0 validating parser.
Woden's long term goal is to be a generic WSDL parser that will parse both
WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0.
>Are commit messages going somewhere else? If not IIRC I haven't received
>any commit messages.
You're right. The commit messages are not coming though. The messages are
being sent to a list woden-cvs which was never setup. Dims has volunteered
to help out with this so I'll get this fixed with his help.
>I will also be around and will be happy to help build bridges as needed.
Great! Thanks Sanjiva.
Lawrence
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
06/13/2005 04:18 AM
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On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 01:33 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Hi Sanjiva,
>
> Development had already started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser but
> the parser was not yet well developed. The parser was donated and
> development is now continuing at Apache with the Woden project.
Where? Is there another list??
> Woden is currently being developed using the public SVN repository. I
> agree that it doesn't make sense to develop in a closed or private
> setting and that is certainly not the intention of the few of us
> working on Woden. If it seems that way it's probably because so far
> John Kaputin has made the bulk of the code contribution.
I'm confused .. is Woden not one and the same as the "WSDL 2.0
validating parser" you referred to above?
Are commit messages going somewhere else? If not IIRC I haven't received
any commit messages.
> I'd also like to see more discussion on this list and also agree that
> input from interested groups (such as Axis, Eclipse, and the W3C) will
> be beneficial at this early stage of development.
I'd like to see *some* discussion on this list ;-). The only message in
May for example AFAICT was about the Web site! I don't recall a single
technical discussion ... did I just miss a bunch of mail?
> Arthur Ryman is acting as the W3C WSDL 2.0 working group
> representative and I am acting as the Eclipse WTP representative to
> this project. I know John has been in touch with someone from Axis but
> can you act as a representative for Axis and bring Axis related
> concerns to the attention of this list? If not, is there someone else
> you can recommend to fill this role?
Chathura Herath, who's doing the WOM stuff in Axis2, was listed as a
co-committer for Woden. However, AFAIK he hasn't had any contact with
the Woden team either.
I will also be around and will be happy to help build bridges as needed.
Sanjiva.
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 01:33 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Hi Sanjiva,
>
> Development had already started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser but
> the parser was not yet well developed. The parser was donated and
> development is now continuing at Apache with the Woden project.
Where? Is there another list??
> Woden is currently being developed using the public SVN repository. I
> agree that it doesn't make sense to develop in a closed or private
> setting and that is certainly not the intention of the few of us
> working on Woden. If it seems that way it's probably because so far
> John Kaputin has made the bulk of the code contribution.
I'm confused .. is Woden not one and the same as the "WSDL 2.0
validating parser" you referred to above?
Are commit messages going somewhere else? If not IIRC I haven't received
any commit messages.
> I'd also like to see more discussion on this list and also agree that
> input from interested groups (such as Axis, Eclipse, and the W3C) will
> be beneficial at this early stage of development.
I'd like to see *some* discussion on this list ;-). The only message in
May for example AFAICT was about the Web site! I don't recall a single
technical discussion ... did I just miss a bunch of mail?
> Arthur Ryman is acting as the W3C WSDL 2.0 working group
> representative and I am acting as the Eclipse WTP representative to
> this project. I know John has been in touch with someone from Axis but
> can you act as a representative for Axis and bring Axis related
> concerns to the attention of this list? If not, is there someone else
> you can recommend to fill this role?
Chathura Herath, who's doing the WOM stuff in Axis2, was listed as a
co-committer for Woden. However, AFAIK he hasn't had any contact with
the Woden team either.
I will also be around and will be happy to help build bridges as needed.
Sanjiva.
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Sanjiva,
Development had already started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser but the
parser was not yet well developed. The parser was donated and development
is now continuing at Apache with the Woden project.
Woden is currently being developed using the public SVN repository. I
agree that it doesn't make sense to develop in a closed or private setting
and that is certainly not the intention of the few of us working on Woden.
If it seems that way it's probably because so far John Kaputin has made
the bulk of the code contribution. I'd also like to see more discussion on
this list and also agree that input from interested groups (such as Axis,
Eclipse, and the W3C) will be beneficial at this early stage of
development. Arthur Ryman is acting as the W3C WSDL 2.0 working group
representative and I am acting as the Eclipse WTP representative to this
project. I know John has been in touch with someone from Axis but can you
act as a representative for Axis and bring Axis related concerns to the
attention of this list? If not, is there someone else you can recommend to
fill this role?
Thanks,
Lawrence
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
06/13/2005 01:07 AM
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
So if this project was approved for incubation *without* code that's,
um, a bit unusual .. I guess I missed that! (Look at the incubation
guidelines - the first point is "must have code".) Dims, am I missing
something??
Now given that situation, if you're writing the code *now*, why does it
make sense to write it closed in a private setting? I'd much rather
discuss design and issues before all the code is written rather than the
other way around. That is, bring the whole thing to this list now rather
than later.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 00:49 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Sanjiva,
>
> Development has started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser. As detailed
> in the proposal, this parser will support both DOM and StAX which will
> allow both Axis and the Eclipse Web Tools Platform project to use the
> parser. As it's been explained to me, the Woden model will be wrapped
> in the Axis WOM for use in Axis.
>
> WRT the incoming code, are you referring to WSDL4J? If so, again as
> was detailed in the proposal, WSDL 1.1 processing is a longer term
> goal of the Woden project. The initial goal is to create a WSDL 2.0
> validating parser.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk>
>
> 06/12/2005 12:16 AM
> Please respond to
> woden-dev
>
>
>
>
> To
> woden-dev@ws.apache.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: Fw:
> Copyright's for
> incoming projects
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Guys, what's going on with this project? Incubatees are supposed to
> have
> some incoming code .. what's the status of that?
>
> I'd like to understand the plan for merging this with the work being
> done in Axis2 on modeling WSDL 2.0.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 13:44 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> >
> > Saw this on the ws.apache.org list. Thought it might be useful if
> and
> > when
> > WSDL4J is merges with Woden.
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/IBM on 06/11/2005 01:43
> PM
> > -----
> > Davanum Srinivas
> > <da...@gmail.com>
> >
> > 06/10/2005 04:33 PM
> > Please respond to
> > general
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > general@ws.apache.org, coar@apache.org
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Copyright's for
> > incoming projects
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Digging back on the emails...Is this the final word on how Derby was
> > handled?
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg03674.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dims
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>
>
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
So if this project was approved for incubation *without* code that's,
um, a bit unusual .. I guess I missed that! (Look at the incubation
guidelines - the first point is "must have code".) Dims, am I missing
something??
Now given that situation, if you're writing the code *now*, why does it
make sense to write it closed in a private setting? I'd much rather
discuss design and issues before all the code is written rather than the
other way around. That is, bring the whole thing to this list now rather
than later.
Sanjiva.
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 00:49 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Sanjiva,
>
> Development has started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser. As detailed
> in the proposal, this parser will support both DOM and StAX which will
> allow both Axis and the Eclipse Web Tools Platform project to use the
> parser. As it's been explained to me, the Woden model will be wrapped
> in the Axis WOM for use in Axis.
>
> WRT the incoming code, are you referring to WSDL4J? If so, again as
> was detailed in the proposal, WSDL 1.1 processing is a longer term
> goal of the Woden project. The initial goal is to create a WSDL 2.0
> validating parser.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk>
>
> 06/12/2005 12:16 AM
> Please respond to
> woden-dev
>
>
>
>
> To
> woden-dev@ws.apache.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: Fw:
> Copyright's for
> incoming projects
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Guys, what's going on with this project? Incubatees are supposed to
> have
> some incoming code .. what's the status of that?
>
> I'd like to understand the plan for merging this with the work being
> done in Axis2 on modeling WSDL 2.0.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 13:44 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> >
> > Saw this on the ws.apache.org list. Thought it might be useful if
> and
> > when
> > WSDL4J is merges with Woden.
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/IBM on 06/11/2005 01:43
> PM
> > -----
> > Davanum Srinivas
> > <da...@gmail.com>
> >
> > 06/10/2005 04:33 PM
> > Please respond to
> > general
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > general@ws.apache.org, coar@apache.org
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Copyright's for
> > incoming projects
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Digging back on the emails...Is this the final word on how Derby was
> > handled?
> >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg03674.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dims
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>
>
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
Sanjiva,
Development has started on the WSDL 2.0 validating parser. As detailed in
the proposal, this parser will support both DOM and StAX which will allow
both Axis and the Eclipse Web Tools Platform project to use the parser. As
it's been explained to me, the Woden model will be wrapped in the Axis WOM
for use in Axis.
WRT the incoming code, are you referring to WSDL4J? If so, again as was
detailed in the proposal, WSDL 1.1 processing is a longer term goal of the
Woden project. The initial goal is to create a WSDL 2.0 validating parser.
Lawrence
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
06/12/2005 12:16 AM
Please respond to
woden-dev
To
woden-dev@ws.apache.org
cc
Subject
Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Guys, what's going on with this project? Incubatees are supposed to have
some incoming code .. what's the status of that?
I'd like to understand the plan for merging this with the work being
done in Axis2 on modeling WSDL 2.0.
Sanjiva.
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 13:44 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Saw this on the ws.apache.org list. Thought it might be useful if and
> when
> WSDL4J is merges with Woden.
>
> Lawrence
>
> ----- Forwarded by Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/IBM on 06/11/2005 01:43 PM
> -----
> Davanum Srinivas
> <da...@gmail.com>
>
> 06/10/2005 04:33 PM
> Please respond to
> general
>
>
>
>
> To
> general@ws.apache.org, coar@apache.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> Copyright's for
> incoming projects
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Digging back on the emails...Is this the final word on how Derby was
> handled?
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg03674.html
>
> Thanks,
> dims
> --
> Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
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Re: Fw: Copyright's for incoming projects
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Guys, what's going on with this project? Incubatees are supposed to have
some incoming code .. what's the status of that?
I'd like to understand the plan for merging this with the work being
done in Axis2 on modeling WSDL 2.0.
Sanjiva.
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 13:44 -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> Saw this on the ws.apache.org list. Thought it might be useful if and
> when
> WSDL4J is merges with Woden.
>
> Lawrence
>
> ----- Forwarded by Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/IBM on 06/11/2005 01:43 PM
> -----
> Davanum Srinivas
> <da...@gmail.com>
>
> 06/10/2005 04:33 PM
> Please respond to
> general
>
>
>
>
> To
> general@ws.apache.org, coar@apache.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> Copyright's for
> incoming projects
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Digging back on the emails...Is this the final word on how Derby was
> handled?
> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg03674.html
>
> Thanks,
> dims
> --
> Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
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