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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com> on 2008/04/15 18:01:57 UTC

An apology

I wish to withdraw and clarify the scope of my apology earlier on the
dev@myfaces mailing list regarding my overreaction and emotional
response to the replies made by Blake Sullivan on the "private /
protected final methods in renderers" thread. I am just as guilty or
more guilty in regards to the behaviors exhibited on this thread and
am not proud of my quick replies and letting stirred up anger
influence my replies.

I have apologized to Blake over the phone for my part in this
discussion. I am sorry that I made blanket statements saying that his
replies were of no help when I simply wanted to say that no concrete
actions were proposed that could be implemented to address the issue.
I admit to attempting to cut off the discussion to only the committers
and developers to purposely block further replies from Blake. This was
unwarranted, unprofessional and simply a bad way to address the
problem that was being created in the "discussion" and I should have
contacted Blake at that time to work out any personal issues I had
with his replies.

I also overstated that I was being heckled, but instead should have
said that I did not appreciate that the majority of my points,
examples, and opinions were being attempted to be shown to be wrong.

Regarding this matter I will attempt to privately work with Blake to
find a mutual ground where there is a mutual attempt to respect one
another and to not use blanket statements about one another's
behavior. I am sorry for my part in all of this and making this open
source thread turn into something of a soap opera.

I am sorry to all those that I offended my attempting to close the
discussion, and all those, especially Blake, for anything I have said
that degrades them in any way whatsoever.

I will make a conscious attempt to not reply too quickly, weigh my
responses better and deal with email emotions better in the future.

-Andrew

Re: An apology

Posted by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com>.
Thank you

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Blake Sullivan
<bl...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
>  I'm sorry that I let this get so out of control.  One of my worst faults
> (at least according to Gabrielle Crawford, who doesn't know the least of
> it), is that I don't +1 the parts that I agree with enough and instead
> comment on the parts that I want changed.
>
>  As Gabrielle said once (OK many times), "I'll send a two page plan out for
> review and you're only comments will be on these two minor points that I got
> wrong".
>
>  To repeat, I'm sorry.
>
>  -- Blake Sullivan
>
>  Andrew Robinson said the following On 4/15/2008 9:01 AM PT:
>
>
>
> > I wish to withdraw and clarify the scope of my apology earlier on the
> > dev@myfaces mailing list regarding my overreaction and emotional
> > response to the replies made by Blake Sullivan on the "private /
> > protected final methods in renderers" thread. I am just as guilty or
> > more guilty in regards to the behaviors exhibited on this thread and
> > am not proud of my quick replies and letting stirred up anger
> > influence my replies.
> >
> > I have apologized to Blake over the phone for my part in this
> > discussion. I am sorry that I made blanket statements saying that his
> > replies were of no help when I simply wanted to say that no concrete
> > actions were proposed that could be implemented to address the issue.
> > I admit to attempting to cut off the discussion to only the committers
> > and developers to purposely block further replies from Blake. This was
> > unwarranted, unprofessional and simply a bad way to address the
> > problem that was being created in the "discussion" and I should have
> > contacted Blake at that time to work out any personal issues I had
> > with his replies.
> >
> > I also overstated that I was being heckled, but instead should have
> > said that I did not appreciate that the majority of my points,
> > examples, and opinions were being attempted to be shown to be wrong.
> >
> > Regarding this matter I will attempt to privately work with Blake to
> > find a mutual ground where there is a mutual attempt to respect one
> > another and to not use blanket statements about one another's
> > behavior. I am sorry for my part in all of this and making this open
> > source thread turn into something of a soap opera.
> >
> > I am sorry to all those that I offended my attempting to close the
> > discussion, and all those, especially Blake, for anything I have said
> > that degrades them in any way whatsoever.
> >
> > I will make a conscious attempt to not reply too quickly, weigh my
> > responses better and deal with email emotions better in the future.
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: An apology

Posted by Blake Sullivan <bl...@oracle.com>.
Andrew,

I'm sorry that I let this get so out of control.  One of my worst faults 
(at least according to Gabrielle Crawford, who doesn't know the least of 
it), is that I don't +1 the parts that I agree with enough and instead 
comment on the parts that I want changed.

As Gabrielle said once (OK many times), "I'll send a two page plan out 
for review and you're only comments will be on these two minor points 
that I got wrong".

To repeat, I'm sorry.

-- Blake Sullivan

Andrew Robinson said the following On 4/15/2008 9:01 AM PT:
> I wish to withdraw and clarify the scope of my apology earlier on the
> dev@myfaces mailing list regarding my overreaction and emotional
> response to the replies made by Blake Sullivan on the "private /
> protected final methods in renderers" thread. I am just as guilty or
> more guilty in regards to the behaviors exhibited on this thread and
> am not proud of my quick replies and letting stirred up anger
> influence my replies.
>
> I have apologized to Blake over the phone for my part in this
> discussion. I am sorry that I made blanket statements saying that his
> replies were of no help when I simply wanted to say that no concrete
> actions were proposed that could be implemented to address the issue.
> I admit to attempting to cut off the discussion to only the committers
> and developers to purposely block further replies from Blake. This was
> unwarranted, unprofessional and simply a bad way to address the
> problem that was being created in the "discussion" and I should have
> contacted Blake at that time to work out any personal issues I had
> with his replies.
>
> I also overstated that I was being heckled, but instead should have
> said that I did not appreciate that the majority of my points,
> examples, and opinions were being attempted to be shown to be wrong.
>
> Regarding this matter I will attempt to privately work with Blake to
> find a mutual ground where there is a mutual attempt to respect one
> another and to not use blanket statements about one another's
> behavior. I am sorry for my part in all of this and making this open
> source thread turn into something of a soap opera.
>
> I am sorry to all those that I offended my attempting to close the
> discussion, and all those, especially Blake, for anything I have said
> that degrades them in any way whatsoever.
>
> I will make a conscious attempt to not reply too quickly, weigh my
> responses better and deal with email emotions better in the future.
>
> -Andrew
>
>