You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by Andy <an...@yahoo.com> on 2011/05/01 17:28:40 UTC

Has NRT been abandoned?

Hi,

I read on this mailing list previously that NRT was implemented in 4.0, it just  wasn't ready for production yet. Then I looked at the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/NearRealtimeSearch). It listed 2 jira issues related to NRT: SOLR-1308 and SOLR-1278. Both issues have their resolutions set to "Won't Fix" recently.

Does that mean NRT is no longer going to happen? What's the state of NRT in Solr? 

Thanks

Andy


Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Andy <an...@yahoo.com>.
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:

 
> Hi, I don't think it means that. keep an eye on
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2193, you
> can set yourself
> as a Watcher to receive updates.

Ah I see.

Thank you.

Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Andy <an...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read on this mailing list previously that NRT was implemented in 4.0, it just  wasn't ready for production yet. Then I looked at the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/NearRealtimeSearch). It listed 2 jira issues related to NRT: SOLR-1308 and SOLR-1278. Both issues have their resolutions set to "Won't Fix" recently.
>
> Does that mean NRT is no longer going to happen? What's the state of NRT in Solr?

Hi, I don't think it means that. keep an eye on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2193, you can set yourself
as a Watcher to receive updates.

Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com>.
Thanks Andy!

Solr-RA is the same as Solr, except that the underlying search library 
is now RankingAlgorithm library instead of Lucene. BoostQParserPlugin 
works at the Solr level, so this should still work as before.

A query of the form q={!boost b=log(x)}abcde comes back with results but am not sure if it is working as expected.

Regards,
- NN


On 5/2/2011 10:08 PM, Andy wrote:
>> Everything should work as before. So faceting, function
>> queries, query
>> boosting should still work.
>>
>> For eg:
>> q=name:efghij^2.2 name:abcd^3.2
>>
>> returns all docs with name efghij and abcd but ranking
>> documents named
>> abcd above efghij
>>
> Thanks Nagendra.
>
> But I wasn't talking about field boost. The kind of boosting I need:
>
> {!boost b=log(popularity)}foo
>
> requires BoostQParserPlugin (http://search-lucene.com/jd/solr/org/apache/solr/search/BoostQParserPlugin.html )
>
> Does Solr-RA come with BoostQParserPlugin?
>
> Thanks.
>
>


Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Andy <an...@yahoo.com>.
> Everything should work as before. So faceting, function
> queries, query 
> boosting should still work.
> 
> For eg:
> q=name:efghij^2.2 name:abcd^3.2
> 
> returns all docs with name efghij and abcd but ranking
> documents named 
> abcd above efghij
> 

Thanks Nagendra.

But I wasn't talking about field boost. The kind of boosting I need:

{!boost b=log(popularity)}foo

requires BoostQParserPlugin (http://search-lucene.com/jd/solr/org/apache/solr/search/BoostQParserPlugin.html )

Does Solr-RA come with BoostQParserPlugin?

Thanks.

Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com>.
Thanks Andy!

Everything should work as before. So faceting, function queries, query 
boosting should still work.

For eg:
q=name:efghij^2.2 name:abcd^3.2

returns all docs with name efghij and abcd but ranking documents named 
abcd above efghij

Regards,
- NN

On 5/1/2011 7:15 PM, Andy wrote:
> Nagendra,
>
> This looks interesting. Does Solr-RA support:
>
> 1) facet
> 2) Boost query such as {!boost b=log(popularity)}foo
>
> Thanks
> Andy
>
> --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Nagendra Nagarajayya<nn...@transaxtions.com>  wrote:
>
>> From: Nagendra Nagarajayya<nn...@transaxtions.com>
>> Subject: Re: Has NRT been abandoned?
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 12:01 PM
>> Hi Andy:
>>
>> I have a solution for NRT with Solr 1.4.1. The solution
>> uses the RankingAlgorithm as the search library. The NRT
>> functionality allows you to add documents without the
>> IndexSearchers being closed or caches being cleared. A
>> commit is not needed with the document update. Searches can
>> run concurrently with document updates. No changes are
>> needed except for enabling the NRT through solrconfig.xml.
>> The performance is about  262 TPS (document adds) on a
>> dual core intel system with 2GB heap with searches in
>> parallel. The performance at the moment is limited by how
>> fast IndexWriter.getReader() performs.
>>
>> I have a white paper that describes NRT in details, allows
>> you to download the tweets, schema and solrconfig.xml files.
>> You can access the white paper from here:
>>
>> http://solr-ra.tgels.com/papers/solr-ra_real_time_search.pdf
>>
>> You can download Solr with RankingAlgorithm (Solr-RA) from
>> here:
>>
>> http://solr-ra.tgels.com
>>
>> I still have not yet integrated the NRT with Solr 3.1 (the
>> new release) and plan to do so very soon.
>>
>> Please let me know if you need any more info.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> - Nagendra Nagarajayya
>> http://solr-ra.tgels.com
>>
>> On 5/1/2011 8:28 AM, Andy wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I read on this mailing list previously that NRT was
>> implemented in 4.0, it just  wasn't ready for
>> production yet. Then I looked at the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/NearRealtimeSearch). It
>> listed 2 jira issues related to NRT: SOLR-1308 and
>> SOLR-1278. Both issues have their resolutions set to "Won't
>> Fix" recently.
>>> Does that mean NRT is no longer going to happen?
>> What's the state of NRT in Solr?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Andy <an...@yahoo.com>.
Nagendra,

This looks interesting. Does Solr-RA support:

1) facet
2) Boost query such as {!boost b=log(popularity)}foo

Thanks
Andy

--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com> wrote:

> From: Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com>
> Subject: Re: Has NRT been abandoned?
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 12:01 PM
> Hi Andy:
> 
> I have a solution for NRT with Solr 1.4.1. The solution
> uses the RankingAlgorithm as the search library. The NRT
> functionality allows you to add documents without the
> IndexSearchers being closed or caches being cleared. A
> commit is not needed with the document update. Searches can
> run concurrently with document updates. No changes are
> needed except for enabling the NRT through solrconfig.xml.
> The performance is about  262 TPS (document adds) on a
> dual core intel system with 2GB heap with searches in
> parallel. The performance at the moment is limited by how
> fast IndexWriter.getReader() performs.
> 
> I have a white paper that describes NRT in details, allows
> you to download the tweets, schema and solrconfig.xml files.
> You can access the white paper from here:
> 
> http://solr-ra.tgels.com/papers/solr-ra_real_time_search.pdf
> 
> You can download Solr with RankingAlgorithm (Solr-RA) from
> here:
> 
> http://solr-ra.tgels.com
> 
> I still have not yet integrated the NRT with Solr 3.1 (the
> new release) and plan to do so very soon.
> 
> Please let me know if you need any more info.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Nagendra Nagarajayya
> http://solr-ra.tgels.com
> 
> On 5/1/2011 8:28 AM, Andy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I read on this mailing list previously that NRT was
> implemented in 4.0, it just  wasn't ready for
> production yet. Then I looked at the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/NearRealtimeSearch). It
> listed 2 jira issues related to NRT: SOLR-1308 and
> SOLR-1278. Both issues have their resolutions set to "Won't
> Fix" recently.
> > 
> > Does that mean NRT is no longer going to happen?
> What's the state of NRT in Solr?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

Re: Has NRT been abandoned?

Posted by Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com>.
Hi Andy:

I have a solution for NRT with Solr 1.4.1. The solution uses the 
RankingAlgorithm as the search library. The NRT functionality allows you 
to add documents without the IndexSearchers being closed or caches being 
cleared. A commit is not needed with the document update. Searches can 
run concurrently with document updates. No changes are needed except for 
enabling the NRT through solrconfig.xml. The performance is about  262 
TPS (document adds) on a dual core intel system with 2GB heap with 
searches in parallel. The performance at the moment is limited by how 
fast IndexWriter.getReader() performs.

I have a white paper that describes NRT in details, allows you to 
download the tweets, schema and solrconfig.xml files. You can access the 
white paper from here:

http://solr-ra.tgels.com/papers/solr-ra_real_time_search.pdf

You can download Solr with RankingAlgorithm (Solr-RA) from here:

http://solr-ra.tgels.com

I still have not yet integrated the NRT with Solr 3.1 (the new release) 
and plan to do so very soon.

Please let me know if you need any more info.

Regards,

- Nagendra Nagarajayya
http://solr-ra.tgels.com

On 5/1/2011 8:28 AM, Andy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read on this mailing list previously that NRT was implemented in 4.0, it just  wasn't ready for production yet. Then I looked at the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/solr/NearRealtimeSearch). It listed 2 jira issues related to NRT: SOLR-1308 and SOLR-1278. Both issues have their resolutions set to "Won't Fix" recently.
>
> Does that mean NRT is no longer going to happen? What's the state of NRT in Solr?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
>