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Posted to cli-dev@httpd.apache.org by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> on 2006/03/01 10:11:14 UTC

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> 
> In order to even consider this proposal, I need to take a quick poll...
> 
> Voulenteers who will continue to watch the progress of mod_aspdotnet 
> (oversight)?
> 
> Voulenteers who will actually test the module from time to time and vote on
> it's release quality?
> 
> Voulenteers to continue to offer patches and develop this code, either the
> C++ flavor or C# flavor?
> 
> Comments on this mod_aspdotnet proposal?

Of course I understand that people are busy; httpd has been particularly so with
simply eating our own dogfood at infrastructure.

I've enjoyed responding to Justin's detailed questions, and appreciate the very
few comments which have arrived.  That said; I'm closing this survey on March 
8th, please get any final offers of help above, additional questions or feedback
on the proposal composed and addressed on this list by the 8th so that the
appropriate disposition of this source code can occur.

Yours,

Bill

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 3/18/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Sorry Justin, tried to ping you last week even in anticipation of this
> question, but you weren't to be found or were ignoring me ;-)  I trust this
> syncs with your expectations.

I wasn't ignoring you.  However, anything other than email is iffy at
getting in touch with me (I think you were trying to find me on IRC) -
but I've been known not to reply to emails as swiftly as I should as
well.  *sigh*

Regardless of any dropped communications, thanks for keeping the ball
afloat.  It will either get enough votes - demonstrating oversight -
or it won't.  It'll be the truest test we have available.  =)

Thanks.  -- justin

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 3/18/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Sorry Justin, tried to ping you last week even in anticipation of this
> question, but you weren't to be found or were ignoring me ;-)  I trust this
> syncs with your expectations.

I wasn't ignoring you.  However, anything other than email is iffy at
getting in touch with me (I think you were trying to find me on IRC) -
but I've been known not to reply to emails as swiftly as I should as
well.  *sigh*

Regardless of any dropped communications, thanks for keeping the ball
afloat.  It will either get enough votes - demonstrating oversight -
or it won't.  It'll be the truest test we have available.  =)

Thanks.  -- justin

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 3/1/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> 
>>I've enjoyed responding to Justin's detailed questions, and appreciate the very
>>few comments which have arrived.  That said; I'm closing this survey on March
>>8th, please get any final offers of help above, additional questions or feedback
>>on the proposal composed and addressed on this list by the 8th so that the
>>appropriate disposition of this source code can occur.
> 
> The 8th came and wooshed by.  ;-)  So, what do we think we should do
> now?  -- justin

Heh - apr and httpd aught to have released too, which didn't happen (but folks
have worked furiously and debated long to get things right, so that's not any
criticizm, just an observation of what I'm wrapping my head around right now).

I'll roll a candidate that builds against both 2.0 and 2.2, put it to a vote.

There are just a couple folks in cli-dev i've identified as potential pmc
representitives from the effort (based on user@, dev@ and bug tracking 
participation) but will hold off for the moment nominating them to hold
such a seat, until we decide if there is enough to sustain aspdotnet here
at httpd.  That endorsement would be partly based on continued contribution,
measured by testing/voting on the next/final/abortive attempt to release
win32 mod_aspdotnet.

Incidently, it's also my measure of if I will support / contribute to any
sort of WinHTTP based MPM technology here, or recommend against it for lack
of a Win32 -developer- community.  (users@ traffic continues to reflect a
healthy -user- community.)

Until someone has code to share for cli-dev, in terms of a 'native' or natural
.NET layer to pure httpd, I suggest we let that list fold.  There was not a
sufficient show of interest to continue that effort as a community.  We should
further close the cli-users list and move mod_aspdotnet traffic to users@.

The snapshot/binary will be prepared once I've tagged & rolled httpd-2.0.xx
in the next few days, and it will either be approved, or won't get sufficient
votes, in which case I'll be withdrawing my future efforts in that module.

Thanks to those who've expressed interest in either mod_aspdotnet or some future
.NET framework around and specific to Apache httpd.  Expressions of support are
appreciated, but it's time to measure oversight, and the only actual measure of
oversight are PMC members who vote up or down release candidates.

Sorry Justin, tried to ping you last week even in anticipation of this
question, but you weren't to be found or were ignoring me ;-)  I trust this
syncs with your expectations.

Bill

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 3/1/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> 
>>I've enjoyed responding to Justin's detailed questions, and appreciate the very
>>few comments which have arrived.  That said; I'm closing this survey on March
>>8th, please get any final offers of help above, additional questions or feedback
>>on the proposal composed and addressed on this list by the 8th so that the
>>appropriate disposition of this source code can occur.
> 
> The 8th came and wooshed by.  ;-)  So, what do we think we should do
> now?  -- justin

Heh - apr and httpd aught to have released too, which didn't happen (but folks
have worked furiously and debated long to get things right, so that's not any
criticizm, just an observation of what I'm wrapping my head around right now).

I'll roll a candidate that builds against both 2.0 and 2.2, put it to a vote.

There are just a couple folks in cli-dev i've identified as potential pmc
representitives from the effort (based on user@, dev@ and bug tracking 
participation) but will hold off for the moment nominating them to hold
such a seat, until we decide if there is enough to sustain aspdotnet here
at httpd.  That endorsement would be partly based on continued contribution,
measured by testing/voting on the next/final/abortive attempt to release
win32 mod_aspdotnet.

Incidently, it's also my measure of if I will support / contribute to any
sort of WinHTTP based MPM technology here, or recommend against it for lack
of a Win32 -developer- community.  (users@ traffic continues to reflect a
healthy -user- community.)

Until someone has code to share for cli-dev, in terms of a 'native' or natural
.NET layer to pure httpd, I suggest we let that list fold.  There was not a
sufficient show of interest to continue that effort as a community.  We should
further close the cli-users list and move mod_aspdotnet traffic to users@.

The snapshot/binary will be prepared once I've tagged & rolled httpd-2.0.xx
in the next few days, and it will either be approved, or won't get sufficient
votes, in which case I'll be withdrawing my future efforts in that module.

Thanks to those who've expressed interest in either mod_aspdotnet or some future
.NET framework around and specific to Apache httpd.  Expressions of support are
appreciated, but it's time to measure oversight, and the only actual measure of
oversight are PMC members who vote up or down release candidates.

Sorry Justin, tried to ping you last week even in anticipation of this
question, but you weren't to be found or were ignoring me ;-)  I trust this
syncs with your expectations.

Bill

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 3/1/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> I've enjoyed responding to Justin's detailed questions, and appreciate the very
> few comments which have arrived.  That said; I'm closing this survey on March
> 8th, please get any final offers of help above, additional questions or feedback
> on the proposal composed and addressed on this list by the 8th so that the
> appropriate disposition of this source code can occur.

The 8th came and wooshed by.  ;-)  So, what do we think we should do
now?  -- justin

Re: The issue of mod_aspdotnet

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 3/1/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> I've enjoyed responding to Justin's detailed questions, and appreciate the very
> few comments which have arrived.  That said; I'm closing this survey on March
> 8th, please get any final offers of help above, additional questions or feedback
> on the proposal composed and addressed on this list by the 8th so that the
> appropriate disposition of this source code can occur.

The 8th came and wooshed by.  ;-)  So, what do we think we should do
now?  -- justin