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Posted to dev@whimsical.apache.org by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> on 2018/04/13 08:11:24 UTC
Feature request: New ASF member account creation
In the case of new members without Apache id, perhaps we should allow "members" as the project name in ICLA workbench processing.
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: New ASF member account creation request
> Date: April 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 PM PDT
> To: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org>, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>, "Apache root@" <ro...@apache.org>, Secretary <se...@apache.org>
>
> I've looked at Mark's record https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/markfradcliffe and it looks ok. I removed him from whimsy project because I had used whimsy as the project when requesting his account.
>
> I could not figure out how to request an account without providing a project for him to commit to. Perhaps this situation is infrequent enough that it does not need to be programmed for, but it would still be nice... Maybe "members" would be a good (if quirky) project to use in the specific case of members without ids?
>
> Craig
>
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:03 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12 April 2018 at 17:24, Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There are ldap modifications that whimsy handles as well (add to the members
>>> group for example).
>>>
>>> On 12 April 2018 at 11:23, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 04/12/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> We (secretary) put a request in for Mark Radcliffe who was invited to
>>>>> join the ASF this year. I accidentally filed his member application before
>>>>> you had a chance to create his account. Can I get some assistance in fixing
>>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We'll get the account set up ASAP. I don't know that the order really
>>>> matters. If we need to do something special here, do let us know.
>>
>> LDAP does not complain if a non-existent person is added to a group.
>>
>> However the Whimsy public json jobs do complain if they detect a
>> non-existent person.
>> These checks are only done when the group is changed.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker
>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>
Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
Re: Feature request: New ASF member account creation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 19 April 2018 at 13:19, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 1:58 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 13 April 2018 at 09:11, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In the case of new members without Apache id, perhaps we should allow "members" as the project name in ICLA workbench processing.
>>
>> Sound OK, except normally an email is sent to the relevant PMC.
>>
>> Do we want an email sent to members@?
>
> I don't think it's important to cc members@ on the ICLA filing or the member app. I think it's just noise. Members can keep track of the process by looking at the memapp-received file.
Agreed, so the code needs to skip this step for this case.
But it might be useful to send a mail to operations@ instead - as I
think Sam suggested elsewhere.
> Craig
>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: New ASF member account creation request
>>>> Date: April 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 PM PDT
>>>> To: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org>, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>, "Apache root@" <ro...@apache.org>, Secretary <se...@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at Mark's record https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/markfradcliffe and it looks ok. I removed him from whimsy project because I had used whimsy as the project when requesting his account.
>>>>
>>>> I could not figure out how to request an account without providing a project for him to commit to. Perhaps this situation is infrequent enough that it does not need to be programmed for, but it would still be nice... Maybe "members" would be a good (if quirky) project to use in the specific case of members without ids?
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:03 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 April 2018 at 17:24, Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> There are ldap modifications that whimsy handles as well (add to the members
>>>>>> group for example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 April 2018 at 11:23, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/12/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We (secretary) put a request in for Mark Radcliffe who was invited to
>>>>>>>> join the ASF this year. I accidentally filed his member application before
>>>>>>>> you had a chance to create his account. Can I get some assistance in fixing
>>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll get the account set up ASAP. I don't know that the order really
>>>>>>> matters. If we need to do something special here, do let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>> LDAP does not complain if a non-existent person is added to a group.
>>>>>
>>>>> However the Whimsy public json jobs do complain if they detect a
>>>>> non-existent person.
>>>>> These checks are only done when the group is changed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>>
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>
>>>
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>
Re: Feature request: New ASF member account creation
Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 1:58 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 13 April 2018 at 09:11, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the case of new members without Apache id, perhaps we should allow "members" as the project name in ICLA workbench processing.
>
> Sound OK, except normally an email is sent to the relevant PMC.
>
> Do we want an email sent to members@?
I don't think it's important to cc members@ on the ICLA filing or the member app. I think it's just noise. Members can keep track of the process by looking at the memapp-received file.
Craig
>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New ASF member account creation request
>>> Date: April 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 PM PDT
>>> To: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org>, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>, "Apache root@" <ro...@apache.org>, Secretary <se...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> I've looked at Mark's record https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/markfradcliffe and it looks ok. I removed him from whimsy project because I had used whimsy as the project when requesting his account.
>>>
>>> I could not figure out how to request an account without providing a project for him to commit to. Perhaps this situation is infrequent enough that it does not need to be programmed for, but it would still be nice... Maybe "members" would be a good (if quirky) project to use in the specific case of members without ids?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:03 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12 April 2018 at 17:24, Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> There are ldap modifications that whimsy handles as well (add to the members
>>>>> group for example).
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 April 2018 at 11:23, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/12/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We (secretary) put a request in for Mark Radcliffe who was invited to
>>>>>>> join the ASF this year. I accidentally filed his member application before
>>>>>>> you had a chance to create his account. Can I get some assistance in fixing
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll get the account set up ASAP. I don't know that the order really
>>>>>> matters. If we need to do something special here, do let us know.
>>>>
>>>> LDAP does not complain if a non-existent person is added to a group.
>>>>
>>>> However the Whimsy public json jobs do complain if they detect a
>>>> non-existent person.
>>>> These checks are only done when the group is changed.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>
Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
Re: Feature request: New ASF member account creation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 13 April 2018 at 09:11, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the case of new members without Apache id, perhaps we should allow "members" as the project name in ICLA workbench processing.
Sound OK, except normally an email is sent to the relevant PMC.
Do we want an email sent to members@?
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: New ASF member account creation request
>> Date: April 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 PM PDT
>> To: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org>, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>, "Apache root@" <ro...@apache.org>, Secretary <se...@apache.org>
>>
>> I've looked at Mark's record https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/markfradcliffe and it looks ok. I removed him from whimsy project because I had used whimsy as the project when requesting his account.
>>
>> I could not figure out how to request an account without providing a project for him to commit to. Perhaps this situation is infrequent enough that it does not need to be programmed for, but it would still be nice... Maybe "members" would be a good (if quirky) project to use in the specific case of members without ids?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:03 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12 April 2018 at 17:24, Matt Sicker <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> There are ldap modifications that whimsy handles as well (add to the members
>>>> group for example).
>>>>
>>>> On 12 April 2018 at 11:23, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/12/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We (secretary) put a request in for Mark Radcliffe who was invited to
>>>>>> join the ASF this year. I accidentally filed his member application before
>>>>>> you had a chance to create his account. Can I get some assistance in fixing
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll get the account set up ASAP. I don't know that the order really
>>>>> matters. If we need to do something special here, do let us know.
>>>
>>> LDAP does not complain if a non-existent person is added to a group.
>>>
>>> However the Whimsy public json jobs do complain if they detect a
>>> non-existent person.
>>> These checks are only done when the group is changed.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matt Sicker
>>>> Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>> VP Logging Services, ASF
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>