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Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Dear podling,
This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.
The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, March 01).
Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.
Thanks,
The Apache Incubator PMC
Submitting your Report
----------------------
Your report should contain the following:
* Your project name
* A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
the project or necessarily of its field
* A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
towards graduation.
* Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
aware of
* How has the community developed since the last report
* How has the project developed since the last report.
* How does the podling rate their own maturity.
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.
Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.
Incubator PMC
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
Here's what I'd suggest we do. We start a separate thread about
graduation - we discuss what it would look like, and who would want to
be a member of the new PMC (of those already on the PPMC). We can
explore whether we actually think we are ready.
If that is the case, then we would vote on it, and report that vote to
the Incubator PMC, who would then have their own vote.
If that passes, we would put together a resolution for the next Board
meeting to create the Apache Wave PMC. This could, theoretically, happen
at the next board meeting (i.e. April).
In the meantime, we could say "we are wondering whether we have reached
a sufficient level of stability to consider graduation, and are
discussing it" in our board report.
Upayavira
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 01:15 PM, Evan Hughes wrote:
> If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but we
> should start preparing now for the next report.
>
> On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > >
> > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect it
> > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > >
> > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get from
> > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement for
> > > a functioning PMC.
> > >
> > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also not
> > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > > discuss graduation?
> > >
> > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> > >
> > > Upayavira
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > >>
> > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > >>
> > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dear podling,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the
> > board
> > >>>> meeting.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * Your project name
> > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> > >>>> towards graduation.
> > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to
> > be
> > >>>> aware of
> > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mentors
> > >>>> -------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off
> > on
> > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>.
Oh, sorry, I was not aware. Thanks.
2017-03-01 14:55 GMT+01:00 Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>:
> I've updated the page. Note we have made a release, so we are past that
> initial step already. We are either "community building" or "nearing
> graduation". Which one is something we should continue to discuss.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, at 03:21 PM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just added some content to the report, please add/suggest changes
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-02-27 16:05 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > From what I learned - release procedure can take some time. I guess we
> need
> > > to decide on what we want in the RC and then move forward. I can take
> on
> > > the release management.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok, let's mention this situation in the report. I agree with Evan, it
> > > will
> > > > be good to set grad for the next report.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-02-27 14:15 GMT+01:00 Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon
> but
> > > we
> > > > > should start preparing now for the next report.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > > > > > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I
> suspect
> > > > it
> > > > > > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could
> get
> > > > from
> > > > > > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base
> requirement
> > > > for
> > > > > > > a functioning PMC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're
> > > also
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the
> bullet and
> > > > > > > discuss graduation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report
> somehow?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Upayavira
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > > > > > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi
> > > > > > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Dear podling,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the
> > > Apache
> > > > > > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty
> of
> > > > time
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017,
> 10:30 am
> > > > PDT.
> > > > > > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the
> Incubator
> > > PMC
> > > > > > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be
> submitted 2
> > > > > weeks
> > > > > > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for
> review
> > > and
> > > > > > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the
> > > > > Incubator
> > > > > > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest.
> Again,
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > board
> > > > > > >>>> meeting.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> ----------------------
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> * Your project name
> > > > > > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no
> > > > knowledge
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > > > > > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in
> the
> > > > move
> > > > > > >>>> towards graduation.
> > > > > > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might
> > > wish/need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > >>>> aware of
> > > > > > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > > > > > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > > > > > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a
> little
> > > > > before
> > > > > > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Mentors
> > > > > > >>>> -------
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign
> them
> > > > off
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you
> are
> > > > > > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may
> raise
> > > > > alarms
> > > > > > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
I've updated the page. Note we have made a release, so we are past that
initial step already. We are either "community building" or "nearing
graduation". Which one is something we should continue to discuss.
Thanks
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, at 03:21 PM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just added some content to the report, please add/suggest changes
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
>
>
>
> 2017-02-27 16:05 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
>
> > From what I learned - release procedure can take some time. I guess we need
> > to decide on what we want in the RC and then move forward. I can take on
> > the release management.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, let's mention this situation in the report. I agree with Evan, it
> > will
> > > be good to set grad for the next report.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-02-27 14:15 GMT+01:00 Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but
> > we
> > > > should start preparing now for the next report.
> > > >
> > > > On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > > > > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect
> > > it
> > > > > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get
> > > from
> > > > > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement
> > > for
> > > > > > a functioning PMC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're
> > also
> > > > not
> > > > > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > > > > > discuss graduation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Upayavira
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > > > > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi
> > > > > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Dear podling,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the
> > Apache
> > > > > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of
> > > time
> > > > to
> > > > > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am
> > > PDT.
> > > > > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator
> > PMC
> > > > > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2
> > > > weeks
> > > > > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review
> > and
> > > > > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the
> > > > Incubator
> > > > > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again,
> > > the
> > > > > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to
> > the
> > > > > board
> > > > > >>>> meeting.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> ----------------------
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> * Your project name
> > > > > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no
> > > knowledge
> > > > of
> > > > > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > > > > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the
> > > move
> > > > > >>>> towards graduation.
> > > > > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might
> > wish/need
> > > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > >>>> aware of
> > > > > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > > > > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > > > > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little
> > > > before
> > > > > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Mentors
> > > > > >>>> -------
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them
> > > off
> > > > > on
> > > > > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > > > > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise
> > > > alarms
> > > > > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I've just added some content to the report, please add/suggest changes
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
2017-02-27 16:05 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> From what I learned - release procedure can take some time. I guess we need
> to decide on what we want in the RC and then move forward. I can take on
> the release management.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, let's mention this situation in the report. I agree with Evan, it
> will
> > be good to set grad for the next report.
> >
> >
> > 2017-02-27 14:15 GMT+01:00 Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but
> we
> > > should start preparing now for the next report.
> > >
> > > On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > > > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect
> > it
> > > > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get
> > from
> > > > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement
> > for
> > > > > a functioning PMC.
> > > > >
> > > > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're
> also
> > > not
> > > > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > > > > discuss graduation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > > Upayavira
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > > > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi
> > > > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Dear podling,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the
> Apache
> > > > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of
> > time
> > > to
> > > > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am
> > PDT.
> > > > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator
> PMC
> > > > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2
> > > weeks
> > > > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review
> and
> > > > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the
> > > Incubator
> > > > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again,
> > the
> > > > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to
> the
> > > > board
> > > > >>>> meeting.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> ----------------------
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> * Your project name
> > > > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no
> > knowledge
> > > of
> > > > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > > > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the
> > move
> > > > >>>> towards graduation.
> > > > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might
> wish/need
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > >>>> aware of
> > > > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > > > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > > > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little
> > > before
> > > > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Mentors
> > > > >>>> -------
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them
> > off
> > > > on
> > > > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > > > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise
> > > alarms
> > > > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>.
From what I learned - release procedure can take some time. I guess we need
to decide on what we want in the RC and then move forward. I can take on
the release management.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, let's mention this situation in the report. I agree with Evan, it will
> be good to set grad for the next report.
>
>
> 2017-02-27 14:15 GMT+01:00 Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>:
>
> > If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but we
> > should start preparing now for the next report.
> >
> > On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > > >
> > > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect
> it
> > > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > > >
> > > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get
> from
> > > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement
> for
> > > > a functioning PMC.
> > > >
> > > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also
> > not
> > > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > > > discuss graduation?
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> > > >
> > > > Upayavira
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > > >>
> > > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi
> > > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dear podling,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of
> time
> > to
> > > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am
> PDT.
> > > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2
> > weeks
> > > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the
> > Incubator
> > > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again,
> the
> > > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the
> > > board
> > > >>>> meeting.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ----------------------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> * Your project name
> > > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no
> knowledge
> > of
> > > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the
> move
> > > >>>> towards graduation.
> > > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need
> > to
> > > be
> > > >>>> aware of
> > > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little
> > before
> > > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Mentors
> > > >>>> -------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them
> off
> > > on
> > > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise
> > alarms
> > > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>.
Ok, let's mention this situation in the report. I agree with Evan, it will
be good to set grad for the next report.
2017-02-27 14:15 GMT+01:00 Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>:
> If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but we
> should start preparing now for the next report.
>
> On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> > Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> > consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> > >
> > > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect it
> > > will just stay that way for some time.
> > >
> > > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get from
> > > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement for
> > > a functioning PMC.
> > >
> > > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also
> not
> > > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > > discuss graduation?
> > >
> > > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> > >
> > > Upayavira
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> > >> Sure, I can handle it.
> > >>
> > >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> > >>
> > >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dear podling,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time
> to
> > >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> > >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2
> weeks
> > >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the
> Incubator
> > >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> > >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the
> > board
> > >>>> meeting.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Submitting your Report
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * Your project name
> > >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge
> of
> > >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> > >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> > >>>> towards graduation.
> > >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need
> to
> > be
> > >>>> aware of
> > >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> > >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little
> before
> > >>>> this page is created from a template.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mentors
> > >>>> -------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off
> > on
> > >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise
> alarms
> > >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Incubator PMC
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Evan Hughes <eh...@gmail.com>.
If we do decide to go for grad it won't happen this round I reckon but we
should start preparing now for the next report.
On 27 Feb 2017 10:46 PM, "David Murphy" <cr...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the
> consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
> >
> > What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect it
> > will just stay that way for some time.
> >
> > I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get from
> > PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement for
> > a functioning PMC.
> >
> > We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also not
> > going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> > discuss graduation?
> >
> > Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> >> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> >> Sure, I can handle it.
> >>
> >> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
> >>
> >> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear podling,
> >>>>
> >>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> >>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> >>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
> >>>>
> >>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> >>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> >>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> >>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> >>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
> >>>>
> >>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> >>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> >>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the
> board
> >>>> meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
> >>>>
> >>>> Submitting your Report
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Your report should contain the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Your project name
> >>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> >>>> the project or necessarily of its field
> >>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> >>>> towards graduation.
> >>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to
> be
> >>>> aware of
> >>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
> >>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> >>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> >>>>
> >>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> >>>>
> >>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> >>>> this page is created from a template.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mentors
> >>>> -------
> >>>>
> >>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off
> on
> >>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> >>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> >>>> for the Incubator PMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Incubator PMC
> >>>>
> >>>
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by David Murphy <cr...@icloud.com>.
Graduating may give the project greater visibility. What are the consequences for graduating versus staying as now? If any.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Feb 2017, at 12:27, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
>
> What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect it
> will just stay that way for some time.
>
> I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get from
> PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement for
> a functioning PMC.
>
> We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also not
> going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
> discuss graduation?
>
> Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
>
> Upayavira
>
>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
>> Sure, I can handle it.
>>
>> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
>>
>> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear podling,
>>>>
>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
>>>> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
>>>> prepare your quarterly board report.
>>>>
>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
>>>> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
>>>> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
>>>> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
>>>> submission (Wed, March 01).
>>>>
>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
>>>> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
>>>> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>>
>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------
>>>>
>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>>
>>>> * Your project name
>>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>>>> the project or necessarily of its field
>>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>>> towards graduation.
>>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
>>>> aware of
>>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
>>>>
>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
>>>>
>>>> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
>>>> this page is created from a template.
>>>>
>>>> Mentors
>>>> -------
>>>>
>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
>>>> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
>>>> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
>>>> for the Incubator PMC.
>>>>
>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>
>>>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
I am wondering if we should start talking about graduation.
What is holding us back? My take is just "team size", but I suspect it
will just stay that way for some time.
I did an experiment a while back to see how many +1s we could get from
PPMC members - we got enough. That, really, is the base requirement for
a functioning PMC.
We're not going to suddenly grow in a hurry. But it seems we're also not
going to go away either. Perhaps we should just bite the bullet and
discuss graduation?
Perhaps this question could be put into the board report somehow?
Upayavira
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, at 10:04 AM, Pablo Ojanguren wrote:
> Sure, I can handle it.
>
> Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
>
> 2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi
> > Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear podling,
> > >
> > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > > Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> > > prepare your quarterly board report.
> > >
> > > The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> > > The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > > report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> > > before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > > submission (Wed, March 01).
> > >
> > > Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> > > PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> > > very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > The Apache Incubator PMC
> > >
> > > Submitting your Report
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > >
> > > Your report should contain the following:
> > >
> > > * Your project name
> > > * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> > > the project or necessarily of its field
> > > * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> > > towards graduation.
> > > * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> > > aware of
> > > * How has the community developed since the last report
> > > * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > > * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> > >
> > > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> > >
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > >
> > > Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> > > this page is created from a template.
> > >
> > > Mentors
> > > -------
> > >
> > > Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> > > the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > > following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> > > for the Incubator PMC.
> > >
> > > Incubator PMC
> > >
> >
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Pablo Ojanguren <pa...@gmail.com>.
Sure, I can handle it.
Is there something anyone want to be added to the report?
2017-02-27 10:27 GMT+01:00 Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>:
> Hi
> Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear podling,
> >
> > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> > Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> > prepare your quarterly board report.
> >
> > The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> > The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> > report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> > before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> > submission (Wed, March 01).
> >
> > Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> > PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> > very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> > meeting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > The Apache Incubator PMC
> >
> > Submitting your Report
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Your report should contain the following:
> >
> > * Your project name
> > * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> > the project or necessarily of its field
> > * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> > towards graduation.
> > * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> > aware of
> > * How has the community developed since the last report
> > * How has the project developed since the last report.
> > * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
> >
> > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
> >
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> >
> > Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> > this page is created from a template.
> >
> > Mentors
> > -------
> >
> > Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> > the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> > following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> > for the Incubator PMC.
> >
> > Incubator PMC
> >
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - March 2017
Posted by Yuri Z <ve...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Is there anyone who wants to fill the report for March?
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 March 2017, 10:30 am PDT.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, March 01).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
>
> ----------------------
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
> the project or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
> aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
> * How does the podling rate their own maturity.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
>
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> -------
>
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
> for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
>