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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Stefan Dobrev <st...@gmail.com> on 2014/03/30 22:56:41 UTC
iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value
Hi all,
We (AppBuilder team) have received
feedback<http://feedback.telerik.com/Project/129/Feedback/Details/124151-backupwebstorage-and-sqlite-apps>about
the default value (equal to "cloud") of the BackupWebStorage
preference in iOS. The particular issue was that the App Store team
rejected the application because it was storing too much information in
iCloud. So here comes the question: do you think it makes sense to change
the default value of the preference to "none" or "local"?
-sdobrev
Re: iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value
Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
That would be fantastic!
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Stefan Dobrev <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> This is the very first time one of our customers is having approval
> problems with WebSQL powered app. If more popup I will follow up here.
>
> Regarding the idea of NSLogging it I think it makes a lot of sense. Should
> we progress on this with Jira item and a pull request?
>
> -sdobrev
>
>
> 2014-03-31 17:17 GMT+03:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
>
> > Background: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1561
> >
> > Back when we split the storage location into three options, there were
> > vocal users that claimed that WebSQL was being used to store user data
> and
> > should be backed up to cloud. Many apps were not rejected with this
> > setting, not sure if your situation is example of new policy, review
> fluke,
> > or you are using storage for clearly non user data. Perhaps you can make
> > your case to the reviewer, not sure.
> >
> > Either way, we could re-investigate the question of which is the best
> > default value. Imho, there is a valid case for both options, we do not
> > have solid data to say which is more popular, and the introduction of any
> > change has friction. For those reasons, I'm not convinced we need to
> make
> > the switch. Its possible we need to do better to let users of
> > WebSQL/IndexedDB know about this setting (NSLog when in debug mode if the
> > db files exists pointing at docs?).
> >
> > -Michal
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Stefan Dobrev <stefan.dobrev@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We (AppBuilder team) have received
> > > feedback<
> > >
> >
> http://feedback.telerik.com/Project/129/Feedback/Details/124151-backupwebstorage-and-sqlite-apps
> > > >about
> > > the default value (equal to "cloud") of the BackupWebStorage
> > > preference in iOS. The particular issue was that the App Store team
> > > rejected the application because it was storing too much information in
> > > iCloud. So here comes the question: do you think it makes sense to
> change
> > > the default value of the preference to "none" or "local"?
> > >
> > > -sdobrev
> > >
> >
>
Re: iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value
Posted by Stefan Dobrev <st...@gmail.com>.
This is the very first time one of our customers is having approval
problems with WebSQL powered app. If more popup I will follow up here.
Regarding the idea of NSLogging it I think it makes a lot of sense. Should
we progress on this with Jira item and a pull request?
-sdobrev
2014-03-31 17:17 GMT+03:00 Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>:
> Background: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1561
>
> Back when we split the storage location into three options, there were
> vocal users that claimed that WebSQL was being used to store user data and
> should be backed up to cloud. Many apps were not rejected with this
> setting, not sure if your situation is example of new policy, review fluke,
> or you are using storage for clearly non user data. Perhaps you can make
> your case to the reviewer, not sure.
>
> Either way, we could re-investigate the question of which is the best
> default value. Imho, there is a valid case for both options, we do not
> have solid data to say which is more popular, and the introduction of any
> change has friction. For those reasons, I'm not convinced we need to make
> the switch. Its possible we need to do better to let users of
> WebSQL/IndexedDB know about this setting (NSLog when in debug mode if the
> db files exists pointing at docs?).
>
> -Michal
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Stefan Dobrev <stefan.dobrev@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We (AppBuilder team) have received
> > feedback<
> >
> http://feedback.telerik.com/Project/129/Feedback/Details/124151-backupwebstorage-and-sqlite-apps
> > >about
> > the default value (equal to "cloud") of the BackupWebStorage
> > preference in iOS. The particular issue was that the App Store team
> > rejected the application because it was storing too much information in
> > iCloud. So here comes the question: do you think it makes sense to change
> > the default value of the preference to "none" or "local"?
> >
> > -sdobrev
> >
>
Re: iOS BackupWebStorage Config Preference Default Value
Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
Background: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1561
Back when we split the storage location into three options, there were
vocal users that claimed that WebSQL was being used to store user data and
should be backed up to cloud. Many apps were not rejected with this
setting, not sure if your situation is example of new policy, review fluke,
or you are using storage for clearly non user data. Perhaps you can make
your case to the reviewer, not sure.
Either way, we could re-investigate the question of which is the best
default value. Imho, there is a valid case for both options, we do not
have solid data to say which is more popular, and the introduction of any
change has friction. For those reasons, I'm not convinced we need to make
the switch. Its possible we need to do better to let users of
WebSQL/IndexedDB know about this setting (NSLog when in debug mode if the
db files exists pointing at docs?).
-Michal
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Stefan Dobrev <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We (AppBuilder team) have received
> feedback<
> http://feedback.telerik.com/Project/129/Feedback/Details/124151-backupwebstorage-and-sqlite-apps
> >about
> the default value (equal to "cloud") of the BackupWebStorage
> preference in iOS. The particular issue was that the App Store team
> rejected the application because it was storing too much information in
> iCloud. So here comes the question: do you think it makes sense to change
> the default value of the preference to "none" or "local"?
>
> -sdobrev
>