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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Gianny Damour <gi...@optusnet.com.au> on 2007/09/29 03:23:05 UTC
Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Hi,
I would like to add a dependency to a new wadi module, wadi-aop,
relying on AspectJ JARs.
The goal it to allow users to configure delta session replication for
their clustered Web applications. I capture here how this works:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/WADI/5.+Delta+Session+Replication
Is this an issue from a license perspective?
Thanks,
Gianny
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 3, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Donald Woods wrote:
> We aren't pulling WADI into the Tomcat assemblies yet, so only the
> Jetty assemblies need the update, right?
Technically correct. However, we aren't that granular at the moment.
We currently don't differentiate between tomcat/jetty, minimal/full
java ee servers in our license/notice files. Clearly we could be more
targeted...
--kevan
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
We aren't pulling WADI into the Tomcat assemblies yet, so only the Jetty
assemblies need the update, right?
-Donald
Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Yes: I would like to add this dependency from the Eclipse Foundation
>> to a config so that it gets included in the assemblies:
>>
>> <dependency>
>> <groupId>aspectj</groupId>
>> <artifactId>aspectjrt</artifactId>
>> <version>1.5.2a</version>
>> </dependency>
>>
>> My understanding is that the AspectJ tools are provided under the
>> "Eclipse Public License Version 1.0" license:
>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html
>>
>> At this stage, I would like to simply change the licensing files of
>> the config:
>> * mofify the NOTICE.txt to include a one liner pointing to the EPL; and
>> * add a LICENSE-EPL-V10.txt, which is a CC of
>> http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html.
>>
>> However, I am not sure that we can include AspectJ jars in the
>> assemblies.
>
> Hi Gianny,
> It's fine to include EPL-licensed binaries. EPL-licensed source code
> would be a problem, however. FYI -- an overview of OS licenses and
> categorization with regard to Apache projects can be found here --
> http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html
>
> I would prefer that you not create a separate LICENSE-EPL file. We
> currently aggregate all license information in our LICENSE.txt file. I'd
> prefer that we maintain this practice until we change our handling for
> all 3rd party licenses.
>
> The NOTICE file needs to inform users how to obtain aspectj source code
> (this is a provision of the EPL). Typically this is accomplished with a
> url to the project web site.
>
> Although the geronimo-wadi module would conceptually "contain" the
> EPL-licensed artifact, it's actually the assembly that contains the
> artifact. So, updating the license/notice files in the
> configs/geronimo-wadi directory would not be appropriate. Instead, you
> need to update trunk/LICENSE.txt (and NOTICE.txt) as well as
> trunk/assemblies/geronimo-boilerplate-minimal/src/main/underlay/LICENSE.txt
> (and NOTICE.txt).
>
> --kevan
>
>
>
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Gianny Damour <gi...@optusnet.com.au>.
Hi Kevan,
Many thanks for taking the time to explain me what I should do. It is
highly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gianny
On 04/10/2007, at 3:15 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Yes: I would like to add this dependency from the Eclipse
>> Foundation to a config so that it gets included in the assemblies:
>>
>> <dependency>
>> <groupId>aspectj</groupId>
>> <artifactId>aspectjrt</artifactId>
>> <version>1.5.2a</version>
>> </dependency>
>>
>> My understanding is that the AspectJ tools are provided under the
>> "Eclipse Public License Version 1.0" license: http://
>> www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html
>>
>> At this stage, I would like to simply change the licensing files
>> of the config:
>> * mofify the NOTICE.txt to include a one liner pointing to the
>> EPL; and
>> * add a LICENSE-EPL-V10.txt, which is a CC of http://
>> www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html.
>>
>> However, I am not sure that we can include AspectJ jars in the
>> assemblies.
>
> Hi Gianny,
> It's fine to include EPL-licensed binaries. EPL-licensed source
> code would be a problem, however. FYI -- an overview of OS licenses
> and categorization with regard to Apache projects can be found here
> -- http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html
>
> I would prefer that you not create a separate LICENSE-EPL file. We
> currently aggregate all license information in our LICENSE.txt
> file. I'd prefer that we maintain this practice until we change our
> handling for all 3rd party licenses.
>
> The NOTICE file needs to inform users how to obtain aspectj source
> code (this is a provision of the EPL). Typically this is
> accomplished with a url to the project web site.
>
> Although the geronimo-wadi module would conceptually "contain" the
> EPL-licensed artifact, it's actually the assembly that contains the
> artifact. So, updating the license/notice files in the configs/
> geronimo-wadi directory would not be appropriate. Instead, you need
> to update trunk/LICENSE.txt (and NOTICE.txt) as well as trunk/
> assemblies/geronimo-boilerplate-minimal/src/main/underlay/
> LICENSE.txt (and NOTICE.txt).
>
> --kevan
>
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Gianny Damour wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Yes: I would like to add this dependency from the Eclipse
> Foundation to a config so that it gets included in the assemblies:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>aspectj</groupId>
> <artifactId>aspectjrt</artifactId>
> <version>1.5.2a</version>
> </dependency>
>
> My understanding is that the AspectJ tools are provided under the
> "Eclipse Public License Version 1.0" license: http://
> www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html
>
> At this stage, I would like to simply change the licensing files of
> the config:
> * mofify the NOTICE.txt to include a one liner pointing to the EPL;
> and
> * add a LICENSE-EPL-V10.txt, which is a CC of http://
> www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html.
>
> However, I am not sure that we can include AspectJ jars in the
> assemblies.
Hi Gianny,
It's fine to include EPL-licensed binaries. EPL-licensed source code
would be a problem, however. FYI -- an overview of OS licenses and
categorization with regard to Apache projects can be found here --
http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html
I would prefer that you not create a separate LICENSE-EPL file. We
currently aggregate all license information in our LICENSE.txt file.
I'd prefer that we maintain this practice until we change our
handling for all 3rd party licenses.
The NOTICE file needs to inform users how to obtain aspectj source
code (this is a provision of the EPL). Typically this is accomplished
with a url to the project web site.
Although the geronimo-wadi module would conceptually "contain" the
EPL-licensed artifact, it's actually the assembly that contains the
artifact. So, updating the license/notice files in the configs/
geronimo-wadi directory would not be appropriate. Instead, you need
to update trunk/LICENSE.txt (and NOTICE.txt) as well as trunk/
assemblies/geronimo-boilerplate-minimal/src/main/underlay/LICENSE.txt
(and NOTICE.txt).
--kevan
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Gianny Damour <gi...@optusnet.com.au>.
Hi Matt,
Yes: I would like to add this dependency from the Eclipse Foundation
to a config so that it gets included in the assemblies:
<dependency>
<groupId>aspectj</groupId>
<artifactId>aspectjrt</artifactId>
<version>1.5.2a</version>
</dependency>
My understanding is that the AspectJ tools are provided under the
"Eclipse Public License Version 1.0" license: http://www.eclipse.org/
legal/epl-v10.html
At this stage, I would like to simply change the licensing files of
the config:
* mofify the NOTICE.txt to include a one liner pointing to the EPL; and
* add a LICENSE-EPL-V10.txt, which is a CC of http://www.eclipse.org/
legal/epl-v10.html.
However, I am not sure that we can include AspectJ jars in the
assemblies.
Thanks,
Gianny
On 03/10/2007, at 12:49 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Gianny, this looks pretty good. So for users that have large
> session objects this looks like a way to effectively manage them.
>
> Is your question about the license used for AspectJ from the
> Eclipse Foundation ?
>
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to add a dependency to a new wadi module, wadi-aop,
>> relying on AspectJ JARs.
>>
>> The goal it to allow users to configure delta session replication
>> for their clustered Web applications. I capture here how this works:
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/WADI/5.+Delta+Session+Replication
>>
>> Is this an issue from a license perspective?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gianny
>>
>>
>
Re: Distributing AspectJ JARs - License
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Gianny, this looks pretty good. So for users that have large session
objects this looks like a way to effectively manage them.
Is your question about the license used for AspectJ from the Eclipse
Foundation ?
On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Gianny Damour wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to add a dependency to a new wadi module, wadi-aop,
> relying on AspectJ JARs.
>
> The goal it to allow users to configure delta session replication
> for their clustered Web applications. I capture here how this works:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/WADI/5.+Delta+Session+Replication
>
> Is this an issue from a license perspective?
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
>